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Iran
Apr 5, 2006 12:45:48 GMT
Post by Mike Dennis on Apr 5, 2006 12:45:48 GMT
My first post so hello to all members.
Apologies if this has been discussed and settled before, but what is the current view regarding the possibility of missing material in Iran? I'm aware of the old 'What in the name of Allah are you talking about?....' story, but has any sort of follow-up occurred in recent years?
The reason I ask is that I was listening to Radio 4's 'Midweek' programme this morning, and one of the guests was an Iranian lady named Betsabeh Emran. Born in 1979, she was asked about life in the country as a small child, growing up in the post-revolution world under the Ayatollah's regime - she proceeded to mention that Western television had been part of her culture as a small child and she had vivid memories of watching dubbed episodes of the Wombles!
Assuming this was the early 1980s, it would seem to suggest that items of western culture did survive the Revolution and were neither destroyed/banned/etc by the new Islamic regime. Does this hold out any hope for the existence of missing Doctor Who episodes in the country?
I'd welcome the forum's thoughts on this.
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Iran
Apr 5, 2006 13:12:06 GMT
Post by Greg H on Apr 5, 2006 13:12:06 GMT
Interesting anecdote. I suppose its always a possibility isnt it. Albeit a slim one. Its odd that they only purchased the first couple episodes as well.
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Iran
Apr 5, 2006 15:35:42 GMT
Post by Dan S on Apr 5, 2006 15:35:42 GMT
The "What in the name of Allah are you talking about?" has kindof been misreported and always makes people think the person writing the letter must have been a bit strange.
Apparently when writing a letter, it always starts with the phrase "In the name of Allah..." (or more likely the full phrase "In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful"), some notepaper for letter writing even having the phrase pre-printed, so in fact all they would have been saying is "What are you talking about?" and it's got messed up in translation.
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Iran
Apr 5, 2006 15:42:31 GMT
Post by Greg H on Apr 5, 2006 15:42:31 GMT
Yeah, it could well have suffered from the old chinese whispers as well to be honest. These stories have a way of evolving all by themselves over the years
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Iran
Apr 5, 2006 16:17:32 GMT
Post by William Martin on Apr 5, 2006 16:17:32 GMT
I think it clears that one up then
at last managed to log on again
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Iran
Apr 5, 2006 21:23:58 GMT
Post by Brad Phipps on Apr 5, 2006 21:23:58 GMT
Iran has two episodes at least: Marco Polo 1 & 2, as sent from New Zealand.
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Iran
Apr 5, 2006 22:01:11 GMT
Post by Bobby Clark (synthpopalooza) on Apr 5, 2006 22:01:11 GMT
It's a shame that nobody knows any sources inside Iran who could have a look around. But then, with the political situation the way it is, that seems highly unlikely. Does the Iranian TV network that broadcast Doctor Who have a website or other means of contact?
Also, is there a list anywhere online of which countries got sold which Doctor Who's, and where they supposedly went to after getting viewed in each country?
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Iran
Apr 5, 2006 22:48:02 GMT
Post by John Negrych on Apr 5, 2006 22:48:02 GMT
With the situation, I'm sure some radical fundamentalists would just love to have a westerner come over looking for old tv shows.
Life is unfortunately cheap in that part of the world.
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Iran
Apr 5, 2006 23:16:08 GMT
Post by Robin Stephenson on Apr 5, 2006 23:16:08 GMT
Does anyone have any idea what TV station it might have been sent to?
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Iran
Apr 7, 2006 3:07:27 GMT
Post by Brad Phipps on Apr 7, 2006 3:07:27 GMT
With the situation, I'm sure some radical fundamentalists would just love to have a westerner come over looking for old tv shows. Yes but a normal Iranian wouldn't mind at all.
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Iran
Apr 7, 2006 13:46:07 GMT
Post by John Negrych on Apr 7, 2006 13:46:07 GMT
True, but all it takes is one nut job and you've got one hell of a problem.
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Iran
Apr 8, 2006 9:02:15 GMT
Post by B Thomas on Apr 8, 2006 9:02:15 GMT
A bit like some white, westerner Fundamentalist Christians, then...?
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Iran
Apr 8, 2006 21:55:00 GMT
Post by John Negrych on Apr 8, 2006 21:55:00 GMT
A bit like some white, westerner Fundamentalist Christians, then...? When white western Fundamentalist Christians start blowing themselves up in car bombs, to take 50+ innocent men, women and children with them, or kidnapping and then chopping off heads of people, then your point will be valid. Since you seem to scoff at the situation, maybe you should be the one to go over there wearing an "I'm a westerner" shirt. All I was saying is that part of the world sure isn't very safe for people, and that life is cheap "over there". You want to get all self righteous about it, go ahead.
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Iran
Apr 8, 2006 22:02:18 GMT
Post by Rob Moss on Apr 8, 2006 22:02:18 GMT
Iran has two episodes at least: Marco Polo 1 & 2, as sent from New Zealand. Had, surely..?
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Apr 8, 2006 23:53:32 GMT
Post by B Thomas on Apr 8, 2006 23:53:32 GMT
A bit like some white, westerner Fundamentalist Christians, then...? When white western Fundamentalist Christians start blowing themselves up in car bombs, to take 50+ innocent men, women and children with them, or kidnapping and then chopping off heads of people, then your point will be valid. Since you seem to scoff at the situation, maybe you should be the one to go over there wearing an "I'm a westerner" shirt. All I was saying is that part of the world sure isn't very safe for people, and that life is cheap "over there". You want to get all self righteous about it, go ahead. Don't lecture me boy. I spent my time in the forces during the time of the first Gulf war (or should that be "Oil" war?), Somalia and Bosnia. I've had contact with many from that part of the world and, I hate to break it to you, many of them are not too different from us. As for being self-righteous... Don't forget - yours was the first post making sweeping, generalised and bigoted implications about certain demographic groups. It is unfair to state that life is cheap in any part of the world - it has the same value everywhere. In all corners of the world there are those who would compromise another's right to live in peace and safety - all in the name of one cause or another. The mere fact that those in the Middle East have been more publicized of late does not necessarily mean that life is any cheaper there than elsewhere. The tone of your suggestion seems to be informed by the media-represented views of some fundamentalist splinter-groups who have used barbaric practises to further inflame a situation that catches many innocent people in the middle. And to draw more comparison between Islam and Christianity... There are many accounts of Christians committing acts of atrocities throughout history - cite: Northern Ireland; Waco Texas (USA); "The Burning Times"; Many "Crusades" and holy wars in the Middle East... This does not mean that all Christians are unbalanced fundamentalists with barbaric practises - merely that both sides of the coin are more similar than either side would like to admit. As for suggesting I go "over there" wearing an "I am a westerner" shirt... How can you be so sure of my ethnic background? I spent a great portion of my childhood growing up in a Sikh household where the everyday language was Punjabi. Where does that place me? East or West? I guess the point I am trying to make is that I hardly expected my wry observation (in my last post) to warrant such an emotional and/or inflammatory response. Unless you're trying to be a troll...?
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