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Post by williamM on Jan 16, 2006 16:41:20 GMT
yes that's it Remote Viewing. Something to do with grid refernces on a map. Since the viewers were never told if they were accurate on the CIA never gave any details its impossible to know what if anything it aceived, but as you say even if anyone has a few million roubles they probably won't get anywhere, a plot for "Hustle" perhaps?
Still if someone has the requisite resourses I'm quite happy to let them use/waste their money, after all, who knows it may just work but I think I'll carry on looking in the conventional way for now.
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Post by Ron Mallett on Jan 22, 2006 14:33:49 GMT
I have a funny "psychic" story and it involves my own junking of a sort. I suffer from anxiety attacks (for which I have recieved treatment amongst other things) and on a whim and fearing that I was about to be or could be raided at anytime and found with a massive pirated video collection - I threw hundreds of tapes away. Anyway over the years I have accumulated most stuff back but there was one thing I regretted almost immediately, the loss of a copy of some Countdown episodes. I realy wnated to see that stuff again and I was pissed off with myself. Anyway one day I got this irressistable urge to go to this junk/second hand dealer and I was rummaging around and I actually found it. Not just another copy... but the same tape!!! In fact there were quite a few other tapes there that also belonged to me and I actually paid for them - which my wife found quite amusing. Anyway besides being little dusty they were okay and I still have them today. Somewhere between throwing them away and being used for landfill they were intercepted and sold!!! Bit of a wierd story but true. I just had this urge to go and have a look. Gives new meaning to the old adage "search and you will find!"
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Post by williamM on Jan 23, 2006 16:29:42 GMT
so they were actualy thrown away and then turned up in a junk shop?, well if this happens with home videos then film had to be a definite, I can imagine a landfill site owner grabbing some DR Who episodes for his kids, considering how popular it was.
One question would junked stories be in cans with all the episodes duct taped together? I'm guessing they wouldn't be on reels as they could be reused.
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Post by Martin Dunne on Jan 24, 2006 4:29:05 GMT
This is a dreadfull story, Ron, and demonstrates the value of fan networks for support as well as trade.
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Post by James Phillips on Jan 24, 2006 11:12:42 GMT
So stuff destined for landfill might have been intercepted and sold on..? My God, that means we might not need to dig up the M4 after all! Quick, someone phone up all the junk shops between London and South Wales!
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Post by ronmallett on Jan 24, 2006 12:02:48 GMT
This is a dreadfull story, Ron, and demonstrates the value of fan networks for support as well as trade. So stuff destined for landfill might have been intercepted and sold on..? My God, that means we might not need to dig up the M4 after all! Quick, someone phone up all the junk shops between London and South Wales! I've been seeing a lot of this type of comment on this forum. My contribution - for the hard of understanding - was to demonstrate that intuition can be valuable (linking to to the psychic theme) and to further demonstrate that once garbage is thrown out it can be intercepted and anything can happen to it (look to the recent testimony of a London skip driver that he took reels and his boss had a whole loft full of them). I'm not suggesting anything can be done about it now but I think my own experience (although it happened in another country) does illustrate that perhaps not all Who reels destined for landfill made it there. Furthermore if you're going to be sarcastic have the deceny to make it funny.
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Post by James Phillips on Jan 26, 2006 9:58:15 GMT
I've been seeing a lot of this type of comment on this forum. My contribution - for the hard of understanding - was to demonstrate that intuition can be valuable (linking to to the psychic theme) and to further demonstrate that once garbage is thrown out it can be intercepted and anything can happen to it (look to the recent testimony of a London skip driver that he took reels and his boss had a whole loft full of them). I'm not suggesting anything can be done about it now but I think my own experience (although it happened in another country) does illustrate that perhaps not all Who reels destined for landfill made it there. But the difference is that most people who were in a position to lift your tapes would have had access to a VHS machine, and the tapes would at least have had some value, either financial or curiosity. You have to remember, the film prints were stripped from their cans and reels and chucked, like bundles of spaghetti, into the skips. At the risk of sounding like Ian Levine, it is TOTALLY UNREASONABLE to think that someone would have pulled out a handful of tangled up film on the offchance a) that it might contain something useful, and b) that if it did, anyone would want to buy it, mainly because it's highly unlikely that the landfill worker would have given a rat's arse either way. Sorry! I wish that 1970s landfill workers were all archive television experts or film collectors, but there you go. Trying to live up to the comedy value of the article in The Sun (and indeed some of the ideas presented on this forum) is always going to be an uphill struggle...
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Post by Ash Stewart on Jan 26, 2006 12:20:57 GMT
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Post by Neil Lambess on Jan 26, 2006 12:38:06 GMT
oddly my horoscope for the week of jan 3rd 1999 mentioned that i should " follow that crusade" (im a LEO as well!) several years before this , Jon Preddle and I were at a party and used a Tarot card set to see if we would ever find any missing episodes... the card i drew was the "strength" card featuring a Lion!!!! (of course this is all just a coincidence and Im not trying to encourage anything........ but it is a little strange.......)
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Post by B Thomas on Jan 26, 2006 12:48:54 GMT
Funny... my horoscope always advises me along the lines of "spend less" or "bite your tongue/control your temper in an argument". Typical Aries...
Hang on...
Aries? Ram? Sheep? Wales? Snowdonia? "The Abominable Snowmen"?
Good Lord! It's all starting to fall into place... ;D
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Post by williamM on Jan 26, 2006 14:15:37 GMT
did they get spagettified before being handed to the dumpees
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Post by williamM on Jan 26, 2006 14:17:30 GMT
Funny... my horoscope always advises me along the lines of "spend less" or "bite your tongue/control your temper in an argument". Typical Aries... Hang on... Aries? Ram? Sheep? Wales? Snowdonia? "The Abominable Snowmen"? Good Lord! It's all starting to fall into place... ;D and this whole psychic thing is certainly a mission into the unknown
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Post by ronmallett on Jan 26, 2006 14:58:52 GMT
I've been seeing a lot of this type of comment on this forum. My contribution - for the hard of understanding - was to demonstrate that intuition can be valuable (linking to to the psychic theme) and to further demonstrate that once garbage is thrown out it can be intercepted and anything can happen to it (look to the recent testimony of a London skip driver that he took reels and his boss had a whole loft full of them). I'm not suggesting anything can be done about it now but I think my own experience (although it happened in another country) does illustrate that perhaps not all Who reels destined for landfill made it there. But the difference is that most people who were in a position to lift your tapes would have had access to a VHS machine, and the tapes would at least have had some value, either financial or curiosity. You have to remember, the film prints were stripped from their cans and reels and chucked, like bundles of spaghetti, into the skips. At the risk of sounding like Ian Levine, it is TOTALLY UNREASONABLE to think that someone would have pulled out a handful of tangled up film on the offchance a) that it might contain something useful, and b) that if it did, anyone would want to buy it, mainly because it's highly unlikely that the landfill worker would have given a rat's arse either way. Sorry! I wish that 1970s landfill workers were all archive television experts or film collectors, but there you go. Trying to live up to the comedy value of the article in The Sun (and indeed some of the ideas presented on this forum) is always going to be an uphill struggle... This is taken from Dave Wood's excellent article called Chasing Shadows: James Phillips take particular notice of the words defeatist, pig headed and know-it-all. I wouldn't be surprised if this is how some reels came back to the BBC already having passed thorugh various hands. Who knows what was saved and people wouldn't take bundles of crap, instead they did take whole reels because the BBC were obviously not only incompetant in relation to maintaining a proper archive they were also lazy in relation to the physical process of junking. I would say short of a stash being found in a televsion archive in the middle east or Canada this is our best shot to ever see some of these stories again.
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