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Post by LanceM on Jan 23, 2005 23:53:19 GMT
"A well informed source within the ABC claims the archives have not been fully searched. To this day they are still finding episodes of shows believed lost."
Quote by: Darren Menzie
Guest
If the vaults were sent some of the missing stories, and that the vaults have not been fully searched, could possibly go to say that the ABC may unknowlingly have some episodes of Doctor Who! Anyone else have any ideas? And Can any action be taken to locate a fan in Australia who could possibly be granted access to the vaults?
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Post by Shaun B on Jan 24, 2005 3:00:15 GMT
"A well informed source within the ABC claims the archives have not been fully searched. To this day they are still finding episodes of shows believed lost."
So does anyone know what's been found? More "Countdown"s in there, mayhap?
Shaun B.
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Post by LanceM on Jan 25, 2005 2:56:37 GMT
Does anyone out there think that the ABC vault is not fully searched and could contain episodes of Doctor Who? Neil Lambess, any ideas? Jon Preddle any ideas? Jon by the way I am 18 years old and live in the United States.
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Post by Darren Menzie on Jan 25, 2005 3:53:40 GMT
From what I gather the Sydney archive has been checked by Damien Shanaham (sp) and censor clips were found.
Are there any other archives in the other Australian states that could possibly hold any missing tv?
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Post by Wright Blan on Jan 25, 2005 4:33:32 GMT
From what I gather the Sydney archive has been checked by Damien Shanaham (sp) and censor clips were found. Are there any other archives in the other Australian states that could possibly hold any missing tv? Did one man check all the archive with a fine tooth comb? Did he have help of a crack team of associates? I am doubtful of a horde of missing episodes being found in Australia. but a stray episode hiding somewhere it shouldn't be, I think there's at least a small chance. |
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jan 25, 2005 20:14:51 GMT
The problem with checking the archives at places like the ABC is a matter of security. They don’t want people coming in any rummaging through their premises.
I work in a bank – for an analogy it would be like someone coming in off the street and asking to go through all our files (thousands of them) on the off chance they might find in one of them a letter on orange paper. It would take months to do this, and there would be very little chance of success. (Actually, I’m not sure that analogy works, but I think you can see what I’m getting at!)
Best to leave the searching to people like Damian Shanahan who has carefully built up a rapport with the staff at the ABC etc. If there are other missing Whos in Australia they’ll be found - just give it time…
Jon Preddle
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Post by Neil Lambess on Feb 2, 2005 13:48:41 GMT
I think more harm has been done over the years by fans approaching television stations than good.
if what is been said about the ABC archives is true, then it should really be up to the BBC to send them a friendly reminder about their amnesty on ex BBC product and not us...
just for the record , im a trained cinema projectionist (amongst other things) which has always been a good "calling card" with film buffs over here, once you start talking to them about worn intermittent sprockets they always trust you that little bit more ,and ive seen some pretty amazing collections of stuff over the years. but even with that advantage its equally amazing how guarded film collectors are about what theyve gathered by fair means or foul
Im continuiosly astounded by whats tucked away in rusty old sheds. .Just last week i was in whats left of a old theatre that closed here in the mid 70s as part of my cinema research and was surprised to discover a complete set of "god save the queen" 35mm spools. and an entire reel of the dambusters!
(they used to run footage of the queen before every cinema screening in New zealand untill the late 60s)
the best chance we have as Fans is to keep looking through jumble sales, collectors fairs, and keep our ears and minds open at all times
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Post by William Martin on Feb 2, 2005 15:51:24 GMT
I don't know how the censored clips where recovered but I'm guessing it was from one location, probably one shelf, I doubt if ABC would let any non-employee search through their vaults even with a chaperone.
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Post by Wright Blan on Feb 4, 2005 4:58:08 GMT
Forgive me if I sound stupid, but is the Australian ABC (not to be confused with the US ABC) a government controlled service, or is it a private entity? Just thought I'd ask before the idea I had began sounding more stupid and impossible than it is.
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Post by William Martin on Feb 4, 2005 13:10:12 GMT
the Australian Broadcasting Corporation is goverment financed but not by a licence (which was abolished in the late 40s) so it is similar to the BBC.
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Post by Wright Blan on Feb 5, 2005 3:41:07 GMT
the Australian Broadcasting Corporation is goverment financed but not by a licence (which was abolished in the late 40s) so it is similar to the BBC. Thanks, William. Now for the stupid idea. Feel free to punch any and all holes through it: If ABC is goverment funded, then couldn't it be argued that the Australian public has a right to know what exists in the ABC archives? Would the Australian Parliment be able to order an audit of the ABC archives to account for its contents? (especially if they gave money for the audit) Does anyone have a good relationship with and MP or some other government agent? |
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Post by William Martin on Feb 5, 2005 14:59:04 GMT
Thanks, William. Now for the stupid idea. Feel free to punch any and all holes through it: If ABC is goverment funded, then couldn't it be argued that the Australian public has a right to know what exists in the ABC archives? Would the Australian Parliment be able to order an audit of the ABC archives to account for its contents? (especially if they gave money for the audit) Does anyone have a good relationship with and MP or some other government agent? It may work, it has a better chance than it would here, just as long as the request hasn't got any connection with the bbc or the UK, someone may get awkward. |
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Post by Jon Preddle on Feb 5, 2005 22:20:02 GMT
Thanks, William. Now for the stupid idea. Feel free to punch any and all holes through it: If ABC is goverment funded, then couldn't it be argued that the Australian public has a right to know what exists in the ABC archives? Would the Australian Parliment be able to order an audit of the ABC archives to account for its contents? (especially if they gave money for the audit) Does anyone have a good relationship with and MP or some other government agent? Such an audit would cost a lot of money, and somehow I doubt the Australian government would care less what the ABC hold! The Australian governeemnt would rather see the money spent on more worthy casues such as the tsunami disaster... Jon Preddle |
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Post by Wright Blan on Feb 6, 2005 22:14:55 GMT
Such an audit would cost a lot of money, and somehow I doubt the Australian government would care less what the ABC hold! The Australian governeemnt would rather see the money spent on more worthy casues such as the tsunami disaster... Jon Preddle Perhaps, but if one could find an MP with some interest in culture, it might be a start. And how much money do you think it would cost? I doubt it would cost millions to search the archives. Mabye two or three million at the most. Personally, I think it could be done for less than one million, myself. |
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Post by Richard Molesworth on Feb 7, 2005 0:52:52 GMT
Perhaps, but if one could find an MP with some interest in culture, it might be a start. And how much money do you think it would cost? I doubt it would cost millions to search the archives. Mabye two or three million at the most. Personally, I think it could be done for less than one million, myself. And even if they found all 108 missing episodes of 'Doctor Who', what an astounding waste of time, money, effort, money, manpower and money that would be. Jeez! I thought I'd heard it all, I really had... Nurse! The drapes... Richard |
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