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Post by peteseatonwsmuk on Mar 4, 2007 14:22:08 GMT
Hi people Here it is: OUT NOW 3rd March 2007 www.kaleidoscopepublishing.co.uk/books-toppop.htmlThe Kaleidoscope British Television Music & Variety Guide II : Top Pop 1964 - 2006 (to give it's full title) by Pete Seaton and Richard Down ISBN 978-1-900203-27-2 www.kaleidoscopepublishing.co.uk/This book finely details every edition of Top of the pops from its beginning to its demise. even including all the TOTP2 shows and regional "goodies" and extra shows on UK Play, BBC Choice and more... This guide really is something of a holy grail for TV historians and researchers and Kaleidoscope should be applauded for such well presented and meticulously researched tome.. If the BBC editions continue this high standard with such breathtaking detail then I’m first in line to buy them. These guides are the bees’ knees!” This is a must for any true lover of British TV, the ideal companion for any CD or DVD collector and highly recommended for any evil quiz-setter looking to defeat the brainiest of Sunday night scribblers at the local public house! Cheques should be made payable to 'Kaleidoscope Publishing'. To order online, please click here. www.kaleidoscopepublishing.co.uk/Kaleidoscope Publishing, 93 Old Park Road, Dudley, West Midlands, DY1 3NE, United Kingdom |
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Post by StevePhillips on Mar 4, 2007 14:58:03 GMT
Pete, I can find no mention of this book at the links you keep giving out. Could you post a correct link for online ordering? Then we might be able to order your book! Steve Hi people Here it is: OUT NOW 3rd March 2007 Price £19.99 The Kaleidoscope British Television Music & Variety Guide II : Top Pop 1964 - 2006 (to give it's full title) by Pete Seaton and Richard Down ISBN 978-1-900203-27-2 www.kaleidoscopepublishing.co.uk/This book finely details every edition of Top of the pops from its beginning to its demise. even including all the TOTP2 shows and regional "goodies" and extra shows on UK Play, BBC Choice and more... This guide really is something of a holy grail for TV historians and researchers and Kaleidoscope should be applauded for such well presented and meticulously researched tome.. If the BBC editions continue this high standard with such breathtaking detail then I’m first in line to buy them. These guides are the bees’ knees!” This is a must for any true lover of British TV, the ideal companion for any CD or DVD collector and highly recommended for any evil quiz-setter looking to defeat the brainiest of Sunday night scribblers at the local public house! Cheques should be made payable to 'Kaleidoscope Publishing'. To order online, please click here. www.kaleidoscopepublishing.co.uk/Kaleidoscope Publishing, 93 Old Park Road, Dudley, West Midlands, DY1 3NE, United Kingdom |
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Post by peteseatonwsmuk on Mar 5, 2007 20:20:11 GMT
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Post by peteseatonwsmuk on Mar 7, 2007 20:42:05 GMT
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Post by jonathanwood on Mar 8, 2007 0:33:42 GMT
Thanks for the link. Very nice to see a guide such as this finally published. However, I was going to ask if the pre-1977 listings of non-existing shows featured the acts in order of appearance. Looking at the sample pages I guess the answer is no. Is this kind of information not available in the written archives? |
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Post by peteseatonwsmuk on Mar 8, 2007 19:04:11 GMT
cheers for that.
the info is in correct order when it is found "correct" in pas/b (produced as seen) records.
many of these sheets are missing, and in some cases we have had to make educated guesses.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2007 11:22:39 GMT
cheers for that. the info is in correct order when it is found "correct" in pas/b (produced as seen) records. many of these sheets are missing, and in some cases we have had to make educated guesses. You can get running orders of the editions from Caversham by accessing the camera scripts (rather than the PasBs, which just give an out-of-sequence listing of the content). I gathered a lot of this info myself from the early days when at Caversham a few years back. You should have asked me, chaps - I could probably have helped with running orders for some of the early editions! |
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Post by Stephen Doran on Mar 9, 2007 13:38:39 GMT
Tried to phone them last week about TX dates and records for POTP the no is out of order.  cheers for that. the info is in correct order when it is found "correct" in pas/b (produced as seen) records. many of these sheets are missing, and in some cases we have had to make educated guesses. You can get running orders of the editions from Caversham by accessing the camera scripts (rather than the PasBs, which just give an out-of-sequence listing of the content). I gathered a lot of this info myself from the early days when at Caversham a few years back. You should have asked me, chaps - I could probably have helped with running orders for some of the early editions! |
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Post by peteseatonwsmuk on Mar 9, 2007 13:49:37 GMT
cheers for that. the info is in correct order when it is found "correct" in pas/b (produced as seen) records. many of these sheets are missing, and in some cases we have had to make educated guesses. You can get running orders of the editions from Caversham by accessing the camera scripts (rather than the PasBs, which just give an out-of-sequence listing of the content). I gathered a lot of this info myself from the early days when at Caversham a few years back. You should have asked me, chaps - I could probably have helped with running orders for some of the early editions! You still could on a later edition Lawrence. send me a message and ill e mail you |
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Post by StevePhillips on Mar 11, 2007 0:09:13 GMT
cheers for that. the info is in correct order when it is found "correct" in pas/b (produced as seen) records. many of these sheets are missing, and in some cases we have had to make educated guesses. You can get running orders of the editions from Caversham by accessing the camera scripts (rather than the PasBs, which just give an out-of-sequence listing of the content). I gathered a lot of this info myself from the early days when at Caversham a few years back. You should have asked me, chaps - I could probably have helped with running orders for some of the early editions! You should use both. The camera scripts would be for what was recorded for an edition of TOTP (if not live) and in some cases might feature bits which were dropped from the final show. The PasCs, being (amongst other things) guides to the music rights used, should be as per the finished item. |
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Post by ronoctane on Mar 12, 2007 19:38:17 GMT
So if the information in the book is incorrect, refering to the era of 1964 to 1977 where due to wiped editions etc, the line-up orders are guess work, if they are found to be misleading or incorrect, will we be able to sue under the trades descpitions act!!  |
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Post by ronoctane on Mar 12, 2007 19:39:45 GMT
....or even trades DESCRIPTIONS act!!
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Post by peteseatonwsmuk on Mar 13, 2007 0:16:49 GMT
only in some editions' order where the order info is missing ;D
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Post by StevePhillips on Mar 15, 2007 12:15:48 GMT
I've just been glancing thru my copy, and the book seems a good enough guide to the contents of the TOTP editions. Where it falls down is in being a guide to what exists - it's a disaster in that regard.
And why are there notes attached to some entries which seem to be only relevant to somebody's private VHS collection. There's stuff like "bad copy", "see other tape" and stuff like that.
And what the hell does "TOTP real audio" mean next to some entires?
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Post by peteseatonwsmuk on Mar 15, 2007 16:00:32 GMT
TOTP real audio means that some perf's exist as a Real Audio file from that edition
sorry. notes should have been lifted, no idea why they haven't. grrr.
also, my own database is colour coded, and indicates what actually exists.
and a colour coding would have been a good idea for this book.
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