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Post by Bent Halo on Jul 2, 2004 13:18:36 GMT
Is this the clip which appeared in Time Shift: Fantasy 60s last week? I have a copy of the film inserts covering Frank Windsor's departure in episode 2, plus the remnants of episode 7 but that clip was new to me.
I'd stick up for The Andromeda Breakthrough. Taking the serial at its own pace and I can't stress this enough, one episode at a time, it's perfectly watchable.
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Post by Mark Brown on Jul 2, 2004 14:23:15 GMT
A memory of the title sequence with the statue face of Andromeda turning towards the camera/viewer still sends a tingle up my spine!
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Post by andrew martin on Jul 2, 2004 15:35:43 GMT
Yes, the clip in Fantasy Sixties (ending with Peter Halliday's intense look) was the PoV clip.
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Post by John Bisson on Jul 3, 2004 15:47:10 GMT
Thanks , Mark, for showing a still of the title sequence showing Andromeda's face. It is pretty well as I remember it, even after 40+ years!
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Post by Richard Berry on Jul 5, 2004 9:51:28 GMT
So THAT's where the FANTASY 60s clip came from. I've seen what purported to be everything surviving from the first serial so was pretty gobsmacked at the BBC4 clip. And the quality of the clips from THE LAST MYSTERY was a damn sight better than those shown at the various BFI functions - was this film spruced up specially for the documentary or is that its true archive quality?
I agree that BREAKTHROUGH is too closely tied to A to be a viable release, even though so many elements are inexplicably missing from the second (Judy, Reinhart, Quadring etc). Shame the archive status isn't the other way round, with A exisiting in full ...
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Post by Steve Boyce on Jul 5, 2004 18:29:58 GMT
I was told recently that 2 episodes (3 and 6) exist either complete or in part in private hands, in addition to what is at the bbc, is this correct?
Steve
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Post by Bent Halo on Jul 6, 2004 13:11:15 GMT
We're nattering away about how Breakthrough is fully intact at the BBC, but isn't there a problem with the soundtrack to the final ten minutes of the last episode? Every copy I've seen goes mute. Are there alternate prints? I often wonder as I remember TV Zone announcing a release of the serial about ten years ago which promptly disappeared. Are these two things related?
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Post by The Wooksta on Jul 6, 2004 22:14:49 GMT
From reading the novelisation, the last ten minutes or so are mainly dialogue between Fleming and Andromeda, and both Susan Hampshire and (as far as I'm aware) Peter Haliday are still with us so they could redub the last ten minutes IF the script could be found.
On a slightly related note, is the Italian remake of A for Andromeda available on DVD? More to the point what's it actually called? Perhaps a stupid question but the foreign language translations of programme titles are often hilariously wide of the mark.
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Post by Ian on Jul 7, 2004 0:07:57 GMT
I'm of the belief that the copy of BREAKTHROUGH that is doing the rounds has been deliberately muted at that point by the original copier - such things were fairly common back in the 80s, (in a kind of "my copy is superior to yours" sort of way, as well as giving a lead as to whoever had been entrusted with a copy then copied it out further!).
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Post by David Buck on Jul 7, 2004 8:08:04 GMT
The italian version is available on vhs only as far as I know - it is called "a come andromeda"
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Post by Richard Berry on Jul 7, 2004 9:58:50 GMT
As far as I'm aware it's only bootleg copies of BREAKTHROUGH which have mute sound for the last few minutes. I think it's a similar case to the guy who distributed one of the first bootlegs of WHO - PLANET OF THE SPIDERS, and deliberately replaced the end with a clip from ZULU!
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Post by The Wooksta on Jul 7, 2004 20:12:03 GMT
The VHS of the Italian A for Andromeda, is it still available?
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Post by Steve Boyce on Jul 9, 2004 23:10:50 GMT
> The VHS of the Italian A for Andromeda, is it still available?
No, but it was only released a couple of years ago and there are plenty of second-hand copies around
Steve
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Post by Frederick Thompson on Jul 21, 2004 12:53:20 GMT
A for Andromeda made such an impact on me at the age of 17. As science fiction it is still relevant today.
In the last six months I have been trying to find someone in the TV Industry who might do a remake and launch another blonde star. Lion TV in Scotland seemed a little interested. BBC Scotland could not understand the question.
Perhaps BBC4 Fantasy 60s will be the necesaary catalyst.
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Post by John Miller on Oct 19, 2004 22:20:43 GMT
Reply to Andrew Martins point - Surprised mention is made of ep 3 in private hands. A collector I knew in early 90s was offered prints, none of which were purchased, of 'Face of the tiger' which is the penultimate episode, also 'The monsters' & 'The big pull' both of which as you describe went out on telerecording.This implies there was no specific instruction to destroy the material in these cases but it strayed over time.
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