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Post by George D on Feb 5, 2024 14:30:49 GMT
To maybe get a better feel of how decisions are made, I'm curious how much markup there actually is and how much the animators are paid for their work, how much the rt gets paid for their input and whether these are financially profitable for bbc
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Post by John Wall on Feb 5, 2024 14:55:59 GMT
To maybe get a better feel of how decisions are made, I'm curious how much markup there actually is and how much the animators are paid for their work, how much the rt gets paid for their input and whether these are financially profitable for bbc Look at, for example, the end credits for an animated story such as Evil and start counting the number of people involved in the animation. Some of those are only going to do a few hours but others are going to be employed for weeks and weeks. I dunno how much they’re paid but it’s going to be considerably more that the National Living Wage - and then there are the overheads. |
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Post by garysrothwellx on Feb 5, 2024 19:04:24 GMT
Does anyone know the sales figures for a typical animated DVD / Blu-Ray? I have no feel for how many are actually sold.
I suspect in reality we're not talking huge numbers. Of course that's not the whole revenue.. i just wondered what ballpark figure we're looking at.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Feb 5, 2024 20:57:54 GMT
To maybe get a better feel of how decisions are made, I'm curious how much markup there actually is and how much the animators are paid for their work, how much the rt gets paid for their input and whether these are financially profitable for bbc They’re obviously profitable. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be made. The rest of your questions, you won’t get an answer to because, to be frank, it’s none of your business. |
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Post by John Wall on Feb 6, 2024 0:55:33 GMT
To maybe get a better feel of how decisions are made, I'm curious how much markup there actually is and how much the animators are paid for their work, how much the rt gets paid for their input and whether these are financially profitable for bbc They’re obviously profitable. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be made. The rest of your questions, you won’t get an answer to because, to be frank, it’s none of your business. Absolutely. From one end you’ve got the cost of paying the animation studio, etc, etc, from the other it’s worth noting that the likes of Amazon, HMV, etc get a cut. However, overall there must be at least a reasonable ROI for the releases to continue. One thing we can conclude is that animation isn’t affordable with the level of sales realised. |
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Post by brucew on Feb 6, 2024 19:09:32 GMT
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Post by garysrothwellx on Feb 6, 2024 21:06:35 GMT
Interesting... i am not sure what sort of numbers i expected, but (for example) the $2,000,000 for Tom Baker series 1 is around 30-40,000 units. Not bad! I know animations wouldn't be at that level, but i'd say more than i expected. |
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Feb 6, 2024 21:39:51 GMT
That's very encouraging news Bruce!I'm always lost in my bubble of buying classic Who blu-rays and animation Steelbooks that I overlook the fact that it's also a commercial enterprise and that healthy sales equate to healthy revenue and thus further releases.I will be buying more animations without a doubt. |
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Post by John Wall on Feb 6, 2024 22:46:10 GMT
That's very encouraging news Bruce!I'm always lost in my bubble of buying classic Who blu-rays and animation Steelbooks that I overlook the fact that it's also a commercial enterprise and that healthy sales equate to healthy revenue and thus further releases.I will be buying more animations without a doubt. That’s something that really needs hammering home, DW makes money for Auntie and as long as that’s the case BluRays, animations, etc will continue. |
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Post by George D on Feb 7, 2024 6:19:14 GMT
To maybe get a better feel of how decisions are made, I'm curious how much markup there actually is and how much the animators are paid for their work, how much the rt gets paid for their input and whether these are financially profitable for bbc They’re obviously profitable. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be made. The rest of your questions, you won’t get an answer to because, to be frank, it’s none of your business. I get it. If something is bought because the item is worth that much to the individual, then what goes on behind scenes isn't as material. If people start to question the value of the product then it helps to understand why it is what it is If people view it as supporting a cause (like a charity to support Dr who animations) then people like to know where their donations are going. Apparently the sales are good so the BBC doesn't need any charity in this area. I would have thought BBC being a government institution it wouldn't be a secret,( and even most movies and TV shows talk about their budget) but i can respect their right to keep the profits confidential. |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Feb 7, 2024 12:14:30 GMT
I would have thought BBC being a government institution... It isn't. |
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Feb 8, 2024 13:38:28 GMT
I would have thought BBC being a government institution... It isn't. how is it not, what we'd call here, a crown corporation? |
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Post by neilnicholls on Feb 8, 2024 15:26:31 GMT
how is it not, what we'd call here, a crown corporation? It is supposedly independent "The BBC is a statutory corporation, independent from direct government intervention, with its activities being overseen from April 2017 by the BBC Board and regulated by Ofcom." but The Director General is appointed by the Board The Board Chairman and 4 non-executive members are appointed by the Monarch (but effectively by the Government) the other members of the Board are appointed by the BBC through the Board’s Nominations Committee. www.bbc.com/aboutthebbc/whoweare/bbcboard |
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Post by George D on Feb 8, 2024 22:59:21 GMT
I'm surprised as that the BBC is funded by a mandatory tax/fee , that how it is spent is none of our business, but apparently us little people shouldn't ask such questions
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Post by barneyhall on Feb 8, 2024 23:37:03 GMT
Although I don't think the way it was put was overly helpful i.e being none of our business, I do think he has a point. What I think you are mistaking is what the BBC the broadcaster does and what the commercial leg of the BBC does as one and the same. If the animations were made using the license fee, then broadcast and later released on dvd you'd have a point. But these things are commissioned entirely for the purposes of being sold via dvd/blu ray or even digitally. Back in the day it was called BBC enterprises but I beleive its changed abit now. If I've got the wrong though I'm happy to be corrected.
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