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Post by George D on Sept 20, 2023 16:36:23 GMT
I'm curious if a list of employees could be assembled that worked the area where films were disposed and a neutral party reach out to them.
Even if it's an add in a retired employee newspaper.
But something to let them know, what was in the skip is appreciated now.
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Post by John Wall on Sept 20, 2023 17:56:28 GMT
I’ve sometimes wondered if anyone who worked at Enterprises selling the rights to programmes could be tracked down to get an insight into how things operated. It’s worth noting, however, that DW was an extremely small part of the business. Another important aspect is that the mass destruction of DW prints from which a few were “rescued” was now almost fifty years ago. How many are still with us?
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Post by RossL on Sept 20, 2023 19:56:51 GMT
I'm curious if a list of employees could be assembled that worked the area where films were disposed and a neutral party reach out to them. Even if it's an add in a retired employee newspaper. But something to let them know, what was in the skip is appreciated now. Ahem have you forgotten the regulations pertaining to GDRP?? The BBC would have to contact each & every employee & get their permission for them to release such a list. These days you cannot just ask the pensions dept to knock up a quick list of surviving folk & fire off some letters from it. |
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Post by John Wall on Sept 20, 2023 20:00:29 GMT
I'm curious if a list of employees could be assembled that worked the area where films were disposed and a neutral party reach out to them. Even if it's an add in a retired employee newspaper. But something to let them know, what was in the skip is appreciated now. Ahem have you forgotten the regulations pertaining to GDRP?? The BBC would have to contact each & every employee & get their permission for them to release such a list. These days you cannot just ask the pensions dept to knock up a quick list of surviving folk & fire off some letters from it. If they were willing you could ask the pensions department to send something to the appropriate people. |
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Post by George D on Sept 20, 2023 20:53:12 GMT
While we're aware of many film collectors, in the recent podcast, it appears the security of the skips were not great. There is more than dr who that could be in peoples basement
The irony is that 50 years later, it's not as optimum, but still a plausible path
Yes information could be sent in many ways besides direct content such as with pension check, a retired employee newsletter or other communication, etc. They could even offer a reward to merely copy such as amnesty or a certificate of them owning the print.
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Post by John Wall on Sept 20, 2023 21:02:20 GMT
While we're aware of many film collectors, in the recent podcast, it appears the security of the skips were not great. There is more than dr who that could be in peoples basement The irony is that 50 years later, it's not as optimum, but still a plausible path Yes information could be sent in many ways besides direct content such as with pension check, a retired employee newsletter or other communication, etc. They could even offer a reward to merely copy such as amnesty or a certificate of them owning the print. Nobody, nowadays, is worried about someone having a ME in their basement. I agree that perhaps something in a newsletter, etc might help - there’s nothing to lose. But remember that there aren’t going to be many still around who were there in the early 70s. |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Sept 20, 2023 22:04:28 GMT
Ahem have you forgotten the regulations pertaining to GDRP?? The BBC would have to contact each & every employee & get their permission for them to release such a list. These days you cannot just ask the pensions dept to knock up a quick list of surviving folk & fire off some letters from it. If they were willing you could ask the pensions department to send something to the appropriate people. Nope. BBC Pensions won’t make any third-party approaches to the people they look after, for any reason. They used to, and were very helpful in tracing and contacting people that we couldn’t find. Data Protection put a complete and utter halt to that. |
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Post by John Wall on Sept 20, 2023 22:18:18 GMT
If they were willing you could ask the pensions department to send something to the appropriate people. Nope. BBC Pensions won’t make any third-party approaches to the people they look after, for any reason. They used to, and were very helpful in tracing and contacting people that we couldn’t find. Data Protection put a complete and utter halt to that. That’s rather miserable, you’d think they could send something saying that someone would like to contact them and giving the details. They could then choose whether they wanted to be contacted. |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Sept 21, 2023 9:26:13 GMT
Nope. BBC Pensions won’t make any third-party approaches to the people they look after, for any reason. They used to, and were very helpful in tracing and contacting people that we couldn’t find. Data Protection put a complete and utter halt to that. That’s rather miserable, you’d think they could send something saying that someone would like to contact them and giving the details. They could then choose whether they wanted to be contacted. They're not there to do that, John. What they did in the past was a kindness, not an expected service and that's closed off now - by law. |
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Post by George D on Sept 21, 2023 14:34:02 GMT
From your response, it appears something was done in the past.
How thorough was that and im curious if any results were positive.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Sept 21, 2023 21:13:43 GMT
From your response, it appears something was done in the past. How thorough was that and im curious if any results were positive. You're drawing the wrong conclusion. The Pensions Dept was used in the part to help us trace production personnel that we were trying to trace for DVD features. |
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Post by George D on Sept 22, 2023 1:08:39 GMT
Is there a retired bbc employee newsletter that an article could appear in?
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Post by brandonm on Sept 22, 2023 3:03:28 GMT
Is there a retired bbc employee newsletter that an article could appear in? Yes. The BBC has a magazine for retired employees called 'Prospero'. www.bbc.co.uk/mypension/documents/prosperoAccording to this thread in 2012, appeals for missing material have been published in Prospero multiple times. No idea if it has resulted in any returns. Are there any remaining trade periodicals and magazines for the TV industry? If so would it be worth running adverts or magazine articles to cover the general topic of missing TV/has it ever been done before? Several requests have been put through Prospero, the newspaper that goes to everyone drawing a BBC pension. |
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Post by andyparting on Sept 22, 2023 16:44:03 GMT
I'm curious if a list of employees could be assembled that worked the area where films were disposed and a neutral party reach out to them. Even if it's an add in a retired employee newspaper. But something to let them know, what was in the skip is appreciated now. Of interest to your query, William Russell once mentioned in DWM that he witnessed one employee leaving Broadcasting House with a wheelbarrow's worth of 16mm films, telling him nobody wanted them. He felt certain that a lot of this activity took place. |
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Post by George D on Sept 22, 2023 16:50:07 GMT
I'm curious if a list of employees could be assembled that worked the area where films were disposed and a neutral party reach out to them. Even if it's an add in a retired employee newspaper. But something to let them know, what was in the skip is appreciated now. Of interest to your query, William Russell once mentioned in DWM that he witnessed one employee leaving Broadcasting House with a wheelbarrow's worth of 16mm films, telling him nobody wanted them. He felt certain that a lot of this activity took place. The podcast also implied that On one side is good because it means they weren't destroyed. However, if those people are not approached some how (assuming they're still alive), then they will likely get tossed. We will likely not get the full story. |
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