This week's activity. Finds!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 18, 2023 0:42:10 GMT
Leighton Haberfield, Ed Brown, and 6 more like this
Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 18, 2023 0:42:10 GMT
This is what I've been doing this week. I apologize if it's almost like a blog.... and I apologize for the length of this post.... I just want to keep myself INTERESTED in my hobby!
Ok....
This has been around a small while in certain circles, but not really noticed by most people....
You know I did that list of 100 Most Wanted Lost TOTP performances.
Well, here's the audio (only) to David Bowie's Top of the Pops performance of Space Oddity, tx 08/10/1969.
Live vocal, re-recorded backing track and originally filmed as an insert in a separate studio to the rest of the show. www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPZj4OPDtZg
Here's ANOTHER Ultra Quiz, TVS, se02 e09:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVREm4YfDGY
Also, a second Stop Look Listen Season 1 has been located on 16mm in a private collection.
Forgive me not giving any more details as it's been located and not been acquired/safety-copied or anything like that as we speak.
I suppose announcing that a Celebrity Squares edition has been found outwith the Monkhouse Collection is something I didn't expect.
Well, in case you missed it, one missing episode has turned up!
Two minutes of this show is on youtube, just to prove it....
The edition is 07/04/1979, and the Squares/Celebrities are Tim Brooke-Taylor, Michele Dotrice, Dave Lee Travis, George Melly , Clement Freud, Robin Nedwell, Lyn Paul, William Rushton and Anne Shelton.
The episode is held by TV Ark and here's that two minutes I was on about:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge-VOINd7GE
(long sigh....)
I don't actually give two ounces of knotweed what wiped TV I locate.
Some of it is very good, and some is not to my taste at all.
It's what happened and what was broadcast back in the day and my wee hobby is to locate things and let you decide for yourself if you want to watch it, ignore it or throw things at your screen.
So, here's ANOTHER Sit Up and Listen (LWT, 16/05/1981) as uploaded by the TV Museum some years back:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=21bmz2jXxis
Erm.... here's a BSB find.
It's 'I Love Keith Allen'....
meh.
Anyway, its was uploaded onto youtube in six parts and although it's undated, I'm pretty confident it's not the same one I located in the US all those years ago.
All the six parts are below.
www.youtube.com/@frogandpeach1/search?query=keith%20allen%20live
(Long sigh.... again).
Kevin Mulrennan.... just for you....
A missing Songs of Praise from Hadleigh. (That's a town in Suffolk rather than anything to do with Gerald Harper....)
It's not from 1975, at all actually, this is from 30/09/1979:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN_7KM286go
Here's an audio I missed.
It's one of Kathy Kirby from her 28/08/1965 eponymously titled show.
I spotted the other wiped audios on the channel but unexpectedly missed this:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6hUpoahKh8
Found by Jon Cottingham the last 40 seconds, from 12 min 18 secs to be precise, as this is a trailer for a missing Saturday Night at the Mill, from 5th March 1977:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUCxCjhZ1to
ITV Schools fans may be interested to know I have located both parts of the allegedly missing Thames Schools episode of the English Programme strand 'Shakespeare and His Theatre'.
I've actually located multiple copies as it was sold globally....
Just so I can say I've made my first 'find' in Singapore, a copy is in the Singapore National Library on VHS. I'm guessing they got a copy in the 80s as the two episodes were originally broadcast in March 1978.
There are also copies in Ireland, Germany, Denmark, Israel, the United States, Canada and Australia....
www.worldcat.org/title/317812543
I never find any Tyne Tees....
Three episodes of the 'Amazing World of Kreskin' are here for your perusal and delectation.
There are other episodes on youtube - one was known to exist already and the rest seem to be from the Canadian and US editions that weren't made in co-operation with Tyne Tees so only these two count, from UK television point of view.
Anyway, they are:- 'Judy the Chimp', 19/10/1973 (slate and clock):- www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTmAye52f8Y
and 'Rosemary Brown', 14/12/1973- www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTmAye52f8Y
and 'Peter Cushing':- www.youtube.com/watch?v=8waAt69bpjA
I never looked for these before as I'd never heard about the programme until about 9.50pm this evening.
Tiddly tatties in terms of a find, this, more of an oversight than owt else.
Intertel were a company who, amongst many things, made documentaries per pro a number of TV companies across the world. with Associated-Rediffusion being the original British company involved.
Anyway, all the 'Intertels' (as a lost of TV collectors/historians refer to them) exist in one form or another somewhere, and often in multiple locations and on different formats, so there's very little to worry about in terms of them going AWOL; however I did just notice that tvbrain list 'A King's Revolution' without any definition as to whether it exists or not. This was a docco about Iran, transmitted on New Year's Day 1964, and one of the Intertels with mostly A-R involvement,
I can clear that up.
A King's Revolution exists on 16mm at the Library of Congress and on the same format at Indiana State University. Archives Canada also have a copy.
One for the über-completist....
The BBC Education series 'On Camera' was not shown in the UK, in fact it was just made for overseas sales; 7 episodes were made in total. Episode 5 is called 'Appearing on Camera' and features cameos from Jim Callaghan (whom old codgers like me may remember from the Winter of Discontent) and his opposing number from Grantham.
It's only meant to exist on a domestic format, and this seems true. There are tons of copies globally on VHS and it was not sold on 16mm like a lot of other programmes; the series was issued in 1986.
There are copies in countries such as Canada, Ireland, Denmark, the United States and Malaysia.
Super, smashing, great....
Today seems to be a day for locating partial ATV missing episodes.
It appears that this is most of a lost episode of Bullseye (which is fine by me as I've never spotted one before) and I'm informed that it's from 02/01/1983.
Don't get too excited, it's basically the first half of the show, so we'll never know what they could have won:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vn3xj17Uvs
Every few months it's time to look for the Third Man (cue zither....)
Now, I think this entire series is probably in CBS Vaults in the USA, but I can't prove this.
Therefore, it's assumed most episodes were missing seeing as the Beeb didn't have the rights to hold the programme. Discounting the CBS theory, there were 66 lost episodes. As of this morning, there were 9.
Now there's SEVEN.
Experiment with Money (24/06/1960) is available on DVD on the grey market.
Mars in Conjunction (05/09/1964) is.... here:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ01Y6VpsJw
I've located another one of those Jazz at the Maltings that was wiped.
I haven't got this one yet - not surprising as I only located it 5 minutes ago - but it's the very interesting Art Blakey/Max Roach/Elvin Jones 'Drum Workshop' edition which was broadcast on BBC 2 on 20/03/1969.
It's currently in the hands of a collector in Liege, Belgium and has been transferred to digital format.
Nice!
Grampian? Yes, there's more-ay.
The Electric Theatre Show was the Caledonian cousin to Clapperboard and it built up a solid reputation and ran for several seasons.
Some shows are wiped, and people will say Season 1 from 1977 is all wiped. This isn't true.
Three DVD sets released in recent years include some sort of footage from this Season.
In 2006, Network released an 18-disc box set of the Sweeney and this included interviews with John Thaw, Dennis Waterman and Ted Childs from a 1977 Electric Theatre Show.
In 2007, Network issued Wombling Free on DVD, and the extras included an Electric Theatre interviews with Lionel Jeffries, Bonnie Langford and David Thomlinson.
In 2016 Network put a clip online of a Kenneth Williams 1977 interview from Electric Theatre. This was unedited and would not have all been broadcast. It's still online if you know where to look.
Eurovision, eh?
The 1984 contest isn't missing per se, but the UK version with the wee Limerick fella on the mic isn't held by the BBC; Kaleidoscope have got a version, ex-VHS.
Of course, RTE hold a copy, but it hasn't got Tel commentating, because he worked for the BBC.
A copy that would be better quality than the VHS conversion Kaleidoscope have would be nice, and it would also be great if youse called all have the option of watching it too.
So, without further a-doobie-doo, here is the 1984 Eurovision with Wogan's commentary in rather splendid nick:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCMZswiQsk
Finding 6 minutes of a programme is better than nowt.
Bygones....Anglia.... 1971, this is a colour insert about Orwell Park Observatory and it's been uploaded by Orwell Astronomical and seems to have come from a well-loved colour film.
Quite a few Bygones are missing and I couldn't ascertain that either the BFI or EAFA had this one, so.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiHDRFk3OzM
4 minutes of a wiped show.
It's a religious discussion programme.
Something Different is the title, and it's an ATV show - the last time I found one of these was a 1980 edition featuring Mensi of the Angelic Upstarts having a very polite chat with Cliffypoos, which was only recorded in monochrome (as on off-air, that is....).
This is from 01/05/1978 and is certainly the oldest clip to have turned up online.
Thanks to the TV Museum for this one and I still have little-to-no-idea how I missed this one in the last 5 years:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=944AKp_f6Ng
Ah, the easy life of locating bought-in shows....
'StudioLive!' was an episode of Jazz on Four. JoF;s programmes were all made by independent production companies, and because Channel 4 don't have the copyright, they're held by the people who made them, generally, or the current copyright holders. Occasionally tracking down these episodes is difficult. (If Jazz on Four counts as a UK TV show, can I not count all of Commonwealth Jazz Club? I swear blind there's one in Canada....)
Luckily this one took about 8 seconds.... StudioLive! featured Freddie Hubbard with the Allyn Ferguson Orchestra and was broadcast on 10/12/1982. In 1983 it was issued on domestic video and fortunately for me Audio Visual Images still exist and the entire programme is on youtube.
Here:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L0O4rvq8ps
Grampian TV.
Never find any of those either....
Here's an extract from 'A Touch of Music', featuring the Fife Youth Jazz Orchestra, which appears to come from Series 2 in 1987 (and not the 1984 or 1989 guessed by the uploaders):- www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEqN2seFq3I
and then there's the time when a bit of a VHS owned by a wee thespian of him playing French Horn on the same show (15/11/1987) ends up on ELLEN!
SOME BLOKE CALLED EWAN McGREGOR*:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc-AOJAjIa0
(*He reportedly owns the whole episode....)
Discovering the earliest known footage of a series is always quite special.
(I'm trying to convince myself at this point....)
So, erm.... here's the earliest known Songs of Praise footage, which surpasses the previous record by nearly 3 years, from Pershore Abbey, 04/03/1962. Yes, yes, it's only an extract and it's a silent 8mm optical transfer at that, but.... it proves things are still turning up, right? www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwZHflN3OA4
Two episodes of Commonwealth Jazz Club - which were filmed in Canada but made 'in co-operation with the BBC' exist in Archives Canada as 16mm kinescopes.
The episodes seems to be the ones from 09/09/1965 and the edition of 30/09/1965.
So while they only get a cursory mention on tvbrain, if Jazz on Four episodes count I think these should!
Because I public announce absolutely everything I find, you can all sleep soundly now you know I've located 2 undated editions of 'Home Cookery Club' at the University of Reading. I am of the strong opinion that these are likely to be wiped episodes.
The University hold all the archives of the now-extinct Butter Council (yes, there was such a thing) and that explains why they're there.
merl.reading.ac.uk/.../04/SR-BC-Full-catalogue.pdf
A playlist on youtube has the following wiped Big Breakfast editions:- 04/09/00; 05/09/00; 06/09/00; 08/09/00; 22/09/00; 20/11/00; 07/08/2001; 08/08/2001; 09/08/2001 and 10/08/2001.
I thought that I'd struck a rich vein of jazz last night and I thought I'd look for some more. It was a good idea.
So, the complete audios (only) to both of the Horace Silver Quintet's appearances on Jazz Goes to College are out there (10/11/1966 and 16/01/1967). These were actually recorded at the same gig....
These came out last year on CD and are apparently legal (so a bit like Pink Floyd's Moonhead), so.... www.resident-music.com/productdetails&product_id=87905?fbclid=IwAR0_qL45uaI8YF7zcAST-KqP0j2Q_6ECpcwAiWy5pTyswwhqQSD1eMrO_Kg
Sit Up and Listen, 11/07/1983.... one I missed.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZVqwkAs0io
other similar shows that are on youtube are for the following dates:- 16/05/1981 (previously noted); 25/11/1981; 04/01/1982; 20/01/1982; 17/03/1982; 23/06/1982; 09/08/1982; 01/12/1982; 26/04/1983; 16/07/1983. There's also an undated one from December 1982 featuring Quentin Crisp.
Most will appear by entering "sit up and listen" and "thames" in the youtube search engine.
A couple I missed.
These two are from Gharbar, the "Programme for Asian Families" that was made by BBC Birmingham and ran for ten years.
Quite a few episodes appear to be missing and these two lengthy excerpts appear to be from xx/xx/1978 and 22/06/1983 and were uploaded by Chi Kri Yoga whom Tara Patel (the featured teacher) was involved with.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Iy5E7fEew
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvBqQNRPjE8
Blink-and-you'll-miss-it show from TVS....
Airmail, 29/07/1985:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=44lf8iwVDzA
I would be very remiss if I didn't try and find some Late Call editions from my adopted homeland.
So here's three I hadn't mentioned or noticed before....
Late Call, 11/06/1988 (with a specially filmed trail for the Highway edition 'Chichester' shown the following day):- www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5V0XGYRb1c
then.... Late Call from 28/12/1986 from our member Aidan Lunn's youtube channel Sticky tape 'n' rust which has got to be the shortest edition ever at an incredible 34 SECONDS (including the title card)!!!!:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZYnAP-yEQQ
and also another one from 23/04/1987 (I would like to apologize for not knowing what the Gaelic-language programme is before, research has proved fruitless!!!!):- www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnipkRJCGho
I expect Adam Smith will already know this, but it seems than an audio tape of Giles, Giles and Fripp from their only TV appearance on Colour Me Pop (30/11/1968) is in the personal collection of a very mannered and well-dressed gent from Dorset.
Of course, the Caravan audio from 15/03/1969 exists too, but.... could we please have an updated list of CMP so I can get it over to Kaleidoscope?
I'm 50/50 as to whether this episode survives or not at the BBC; I've heard conflicting information from several sources.... so as we speak, I'm going to assume it's missing.... and as I can't trust BBCMG because it's been wrong a couple of times this year, let's just assume it IS missing until I ask my contact at the Beeb in a couple of week's time.
The Great Egg Race - this is an episode from 01/05/1984 and the copy comes from one of the winning team (who ALSO says it's a missing episode....).
(*Did I ever tell you I once gave a business presentation with Professor Heinz Wolff? Lovely fella.)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJydazfUibg
(* That was a bit Partridge, wasn't it?)
Mainstream. You don't remember it do you? Unless you've been watching TV Hell or are of a certain age, right?
Described as a 'short lived arts show beset by problems' (which is true), it nonetheless was very brave and was in some ways ahead of its' time. If it had been made 10 years later, the technology would have been better and it would have been a success, but.... alas...
Anyway, I was surprised to learn that some bits were not kept!
So, here's the Human League performing on the edition from 06/11/1979. Some of this episode exists as inserts - but I'm guessing the BBC don't have all the 6 minutes here as this includes linking material by Andy Batten-Foster which would have been live and this comes from an off-air recording. www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJSyM227Hb4
A missing Police 5? (Well, 70% of it....)
The subject matter is quite disturbing and despite this edition being from late August 1982 (the best guesstimate I can make), I'd like to point out that the perpetrator of the awful crime was only eventually brought to justice in 2016 using modern DNA profiling not available at the time.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrjXv-I3RtM
In 2021, MBW Group member Nigel Derek Lamb spotted 'Ethel Merman' on youtube, the eponymously-titled special made by the BBC and shown on 11/06/1964. This isn't in the BBC's archive. (*It's titled 'An Evening with Ethel Merman', but the Radio Times didn't bill it that way.)
I showed an excerpt of this at the BFI when I was a Special Guest at Missing Believed Wiped; obviously I had already snagged a copy of it, and also sent one to the BFI.... which was probably a good thing as it disappeared from youtube in 2022.
It's now reappeared, so.... if you did want to get a copy of it just in case it gets taken down again.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNJHqGA6Ss0
Another except from a wiped show, just 8 minutes or so.
This one is unusual as it's the only episode that is missing....
Get Fresh, was made by a number of the 'smaller' ITV companies during its' 3 year run (Anglia, Border, HTV, STV, TSW, Tyne Tees and Ulster.... just to name the ones I know about) and, perhaps quite fortunately only one episode is lost.
Somewhat surprisingly, it's an Anglia episode from 23/05/1987.
I am quite delighted this episode at least partially exists.... as it's got the Housemartins on it! www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxGSgR_t1Tk
Ultra Quiz 85? Wha? Apparently three episodes of the 1985 series exist in the ADC Collection. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fmM7VPj2Ms
I located most of a BBC Midlands local show a while back (not reported here....) called 'This is.... Waterfall' (24/07/1981(, unsurprisingly featuring local band Waterfall at Pebble Mill.
Anyway, I've also been in touch with one of the musicians who is still touring and confirmed to me a while back that he has a VHS of it somewhere. It's the only missing 'This is....' out of the 7 shows made.
Well, all 5 songs are on youtube.... and that's 16 minutes of the show which was a thirty minute timeslot.
They are here:- www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22this+is+waterfall%22%22bbc%22%22bobmebobs%22
More jazz.
While not quite being the broadcast version (which was edited for length), the 'Jazz on Four' 'Chick Corea and Gary Burton Live in Tokyo' (25/03/1983) is not held in UK Archives, which is not surprising as the copyright is held elsewhere.
But being completist, I thought you'd like to at least that it exists and that you can also watch it:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EXrjSCN8H0
Two AUDIO clips of bits from wiped episodes of Sunday Night at the London Palladium.
The first one is Bruce and Sammy from 01/10/1961. Easy to date, as SDJ only appeared on SNATLP once.
The second extract is Dave King and that's from the following week, 08/10/1961.
Quality is a bit lacklustre (although it gets better...), but I am very glad that these exist. www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGjLQqUxKmI
I sometimes don't look for things.... they find me.
While I was looking for lost BBC Schools programming.... for reasons unknown a lost Max Headroom Show came up!
This is the edition from 24/02/1987, featuring that brilliant old grump Jack Lemmon.
Yes, I'm very aware that a contact of mine has all the Max Headroom episodes in a garage lock-up in Northern California on VHS, but in the meantime, this is still AWOL at the very least.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVZCb4iyuj8
A wee tiddly find this....
Company was the late night TVS equivalent of Night Thoughts or Sit Up and Listen and after locating a couple of unedited editions a while back, I chanced upon this one, which is from 31/01/1987.
The reason I'm confident this is wiped is because none exist from 1987!!!! YES, there's a TVS clock and a National Anthem at the end with Royal footage (all TVS material) for those of you that enjoy those sorts of things. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJccw2IkNOc
DAVID FROST'S MOON PARTY ALERT!!!!!
Something is better than nothing....
'Man on the Moon' (colloquially best known as 'David Frost's Moon Party', which explains the show's format a darn sight better than the bland eventual title....) was ITV's rival to the BBC's Apollo 11 coverage.
The human race's finest technical achievement, all interspersed with live performances by the likes of Engelbert and Cliff.
It was almost unanimously panned as the critics derided the fact that light entertainment would be paired with something as important as humans getting to the Moon.
And, lo.... it disappeared. No trace remained, unlike the footsteps of Neil'n'Buzz on the satellite.
Despite all this - or maybe because of it - the programme was voted 53rd in the list of Most Wanted Lost TV Shows.... and I am delighted to report that a tiddly bit of off-air audio and 8mm film of the programme does exist. It's been hiding in plain sight for many a year....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mYOKUx-shc
You're Johnnie Stewart. It's 1965. You're producing Top of the Pops and those nice young moptops are at Number One AGAIN, and you have some film of them singing their latest chart topper* but you don't want to keep on repeating it.
So, you run down to the film library, snag a copy of London to Brighton in Four Minutes and edit it to that Number One, by golly.
So here, reconstructed by Gary Jordan, is the 13th May 1965's showing of Ticket to Ride accompanied by the aforementioned BBC Film Unit piece.
we.tl/t-VDQeSjOL5z
*the bit of the Fabs performing the same song (which is on the DW episode the Chase, right? Hey, I'm learning!!!!) was aired on the TOTP editions on the 15th and 29th April 1965, and the 6th May. The Intertel for Ticket to Ride hadn't been made at the time and wasn't shown on TOTP until Xmas
Even if a David Bowie interview has been circulated amongst hardcore collectors and been on youtube for 18 months or more, it's still going to be rare....
Such is this regional report, and interview from Tyne Tees' Northern Life dating from 16/06/1978, which neither the BFI or ITV seem to have.
Quality is a bit....dodgy, but....
wiped Bowie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4yQbEk80wg
Here's something that'll interest maybe.... I don't know.... three of you?
It's an LWT-made trail for Christmas Day 1977.
Within it is a specially filmed trail for Sale of the Century (which was shown at different times in different regions, and the show's wiped anyway....)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luej2HvEoTA
Strange Experiences. (no, NOT Stranger Things!)
We go back to the 1950s here, and for those of you who have never heard of this show, it was a short programme lasting four minutes or so, and episodes were shown in the UK on ATV in 1955 and 1956. Some were even being broadcast as late as 1962.
Somewhere between 25 and 28 episodes were made. The BFI have 19. I found most of the rest in the archives of the Wisconsin Historical Society back in 2011 or so, and a number of the existing ones are there too.
This is all well and good. Three are meant to be missing (and the titles are lost to history, as we speak) and then, lo and behold, just the now I stumbled across ten kinescopes on youtube.
I have no idea which episodes they are yet; the point is, as good as it is that many of these exist either in the UK or US, no one has actually had the chance to watch any editions in over 50 years,
Well now you can:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVDBesz5j-Y
Yes, well.... I expect this programme to exist in the US, but.... after extensive checking it appears that the BFI and ITV don't have this.... and it's the only episode tvbrain list as missing, so....
There's one episode missing of This is Tom Jones.
Even though the BFI have acquired a shedload of the series in the past year or two - which proves how much I look for the episodes - and they've transferred the acquired 2-inch quads to Digibeta.... the fact remains one episode is not there, and it's not online either. Even my Tom Jones contact hasn't got it.
It's the episode shown in the US on 01/01/1969 (and the UK on 03/02/1969) featuring Harry Secombe (who was on twice, you know, must have been Welsh solidarity or something?) and Victor Borge, plus Paula Kelly.
Well, bless my old signed Matt Le Tissier Saints shirt if the audio of the show has been held all this time by my old mate Phil R. Gries at Archival Television Audio!
atvaudio.com/ata_search.php?record_id=4846
I still need to find the video element, but....hey.... it's a start.
I think that's it for the day. (Sparks up tab, glugs Irn Bru).
Haste ye back.
Ok....
This has been around a small while in certain circles, but not really noticed by most people....
You know I did that list of 100 Most Wanted Lost TOTP performances.
Well, here's the audio (only) to David Bowie's Top of the Pops performance of Space Oddity, tx 08/10/1969.
Live vocal, re-recorded backing track and originally filmed as an insert in a separate studio to the rest of the show. www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPZj4OPDtZg
Here's ANOTHER Ultra Quiz, TVS, se02 e09:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVREm4YfDGY
Also, a second Stop Look Listen Season 1 has been located on 16mm in a private collection.
Forgive me not giving any more details as it's been located and not been acquired/safety-copied or anything like that as we speak.
I suppose announcing that a Celebrity Squares edition has been found outwith the Monkhouse Collection is something I didn't expect.
Well, in case you missed it, one missing episode has turned up!
Two minutes of this show is on youtube, just to prove it....
The edition is 07/04/1979, and the Squares/Celebrities are Tim Brooke-Taylor, Michele Dotrice, Dave Lee Travis, George Melly , Clement Freud, Robin Nedwell, Lyn Paul, William Rushton and Anne Shelton.
The episode is held by TV Ark and here's that two minutes I was on about:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge-VOINd7GE
(long sigh....)
I don't actually give two ounces of knotweed what wiped TV I locate.
Some of it is very good, and some is not to my taste at all.
It's what happened and what was broadcast back in the day and my wee hobby is to locate things and let you decide for yourself if you want to watch it, ignore it or throw things at your screen.
So, here's ANOTHER Sit Up and Listen (LWT, 16/05/1981) as uploaded by the TV Museum some years back:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=21bmz2jXxis
Erm.... here's a BSB find.
It's 'I Love Keith Allen'....
meh.
Anyway, its was uploaded onto youtube in six parts and although it's undated, I'm pretty confident it's not the same one I located in the US all those years ago.
All the six parts are below.
www.youtube.com/@frogandpeach1/search?query=keith%20allen%20live
(Long sigh.... again).
Kevin Mulrennan.... just for you....
A missing Songs of Praise from Hadleigh. (That's a town in Suffolk rather than anything to do with Gerald Harper....)
It's not from 1975, at all actually, this is from 30/09/1979:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN_7KM286go
Here's an audio I missed.
It's one of Kathy Kirby from her 28/08/1965 eponymously titled show.
I spotted the other wiped audios on the channel but unexpectedly missed this:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6hUpoahKh8
Found by Jon Cottingham the last 40 seconds, from 12 min 18 secs to be precise, as this is a trailer for a missing Saturday Night at the Mill, from 5th March 1977:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUCxCjhZ1to
ITV Schools fans may be interested to know I have located both parts of the allegedly missing Thames Schools episode of the English Programme strand 'Shakespeare and His Theatre'.
I've actually located multiple copies as it was sold globally....
Just so I can say I've made my first 'find' in Singapore, a copy is in the Singapore National Library on VHS. I'm guessing they got a copy in the 80s as the two episodes were originally broadcast in March 1978.
There are also copies in Ireland, Germany, Denmark, Israel, the United States, Canada and Australia....
www.worldcat.org/title/317812543
I never find any Tyne Tees....
Three episodes of the 'Amazing World of Kreskin' are here for your perusal and delectation.
There are other episodes on youtube - one was known to exist already and the rest seem to be from the Canadian and US editions that weren't made in co-operation with Tyne Tees so only these two count, from UK television point of view.
Anyway, they are:- 'Judy the Chimp', 19/10/1973 (slate and clock):- www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTmAye52f8Y
and 'Rosemary Brown', 14/12/1973- www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTmAye52f8Y
and 'Peter Cushing':- www.youtube.com/watch?v=8waAt69bpjA
I never looked for these before as I'd never heard about the programme until about 9.50pm this evening.
Tiddly tatties in terms of a find, this, more of an oversight than owt else.
Intertel were a company who, amongst many things, made documentaries per pro a number of TV companies across the world. with Associated-Rediffusion being the original British company involved.
Anyway, all the 'Intertels' (as a lost of TV collectors/historians refer to them) exist in one form or another somewhere, and often in multiple locations and on different formats, so there's very little to worry about in terms of them going AWOL; however I did just notice that tvbrain list 'A King's Revolution' without any definition as to whether it exists or not. This was a docco about Iran, transmitted on New Year's Day 1964, and one of the Intertels with mostly A-R involvement,
I can clear that up.
A King's Revolution exists on 16mm at the Library of Congress and on the same format at Indiana State University. Archives Canada also have a copy.
One for the über-completist....
The BBC Education series 'On Camera' was not shown in the UK, in fact it was just made for overseas sales; 7 episodes were made in total. Episode 5 is called 'Appearing on Camera' and features cameos from Jim Callaghan (whom old codgers like me may remember from the Winter of Discontent) and his opposing number from Grantham.
It's only meant to exist on a domestic format, and this seems true. There are tons of copies globally on VHS and it was not sold on 16mm like a lot of other programmes; the series was issued in 1986.
There are copies in countries such as Canada, Ireland, Denmark, the United States and Malaysia.
Super, smashing, great....
Today seems to be a day for locating partial ATV missing episodes.
It appears that this is most of a lost episode of Bullseye (which is fine by me as I've never spotted one before) and I'm informed that it's from 02/01/1983.
Don't get too excited, it's basically the first half of the show, so we'll never know what they could have won:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vn3xj17Uvs
Every few months it's time to look for the Third Man (cue zither....)
Now, I think this entire series is probably in CBS Vaults in the USA, but I can't prove this.
Therefore, it's assumed most episodes were missing seeing as the Beeb didn't have the rights to hold the programme. Discounting the CBS theory, there were 66 lost episodes. As of this morning, there were 9.
Now there's SEVEN.
Experiment with Money (24/06/1960) is available on DVD on the grey market.
Mars in Conjunction (05/09/1964) is.... here:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ01Y6VpsJw
I've located another one of those Jazz at the Maltings that was wiped.
I haven't got this one yet - not surprising as I only located it 5 minutes ago - but it's the very interesting Art Blakey/Max Roach/Elvin Jones 'Drum Workshop' edition which was broadcast on BBC 2 on 20/03/1969.
It's currently in the hands of a collector in Liege, Belgium and has been transferred to digital format.
Nice!
Grampian? Yes, there's more-ay.
The Electric Theatre Show was the Caledonian cousin to Clapperboard and it built up a solid reputation and ran for several seasons.
Some shows are wiped, and people will say Season 1 from 1977 is all wiped. This isn't true.
Three DVD sets released in recent years include some sort of footage from this Season.
In 2006, Network released an 18-disc box set of the Sweeney and this included interviews with John Thaw, Dennis Waterman and Ted Childs from a 1977 Electric Theatre Show.
In 2007, Network issued Wombling Free on DVD, and the extras included an Electric Theatre interviews with Lionel Jeffries, Bonnie Langford and David Thomlinson.
In 2016 Network put a clip online of a Kenneth Williams 1977 interview from Electric Theatre. This was unedited and would not have all been broadcast. It's still online if you know where to look.
Eurovision, eh?
The 1984 contest isn't missing per se, but the UK version with the wee Limerick fella on the mic isn't held by the BBC; Kaleidoscope have got a version, ex-VHS.
Of course, RTE hold a copy, but it hasn't got Tel commentating, because he worked for the BBC.
A copy that would be better quality than the VHS conversion Kaleidoscope have would be nice, and it would also be great if youse called all have the option of watching it too.
So, without further a-doobie-doo, here is the 1984 Eurovision with Wogan's commentary in rather splendid nick:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCMZswiQsk
Finding 6 minutes of a programme is better than nowt.
Bygones....Anglia.... 1971, this is a colour insert about Orwell Park Observatory and it's been uploaded by Orwell Astronomical and seems to have come from a well-loved colour film.
Quite a few Bygones are missing and I couldn't ascertain that either the BFI or EAFA had this one, so.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiHDRFk3OzM
4 minutes of a wiped show.
It's a religious discussion programme.
Something Different is the title, and it's an ATV show - the last time I found one of these was a 1980 edition featuring Mensi of the Angelic Upstarts having a very polite chat with Cliffypoos, which was only recorded in monochrome (as on off-air, that is....).
This is from 01/05/1978 and is certainly the oldest clip to have turned up online.
Thanks to the TV Museum for this one and I still have little-to-no-idea how I missed this one in the last 5 years:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=944AKp_f6Ng
Ah, the easy life of locating bought-in shows....
'StudioLive!' was an episode of Jazz on Four. JoF;s programmes were all made by independent production companies, and because Channel 4 don't have the copyright, they're held by the people who made them, generally, or the current copyright holders. Occasionally tracking down these episodes is difficult. (If Jazz on Four counts as a UK TV show, can I not count all of Commonwealth Jazz Club? I swear blind there's one in Canada....)
Luckily this one took about 8 seconds.... StudioLive! featured Freddie Hubbard with the Allyn Ferguson Orchestra and was broadcast on 10/12/1982. In 1983 it was issued on domestic video and fortunately for me Audio Visual Images still exist and the entire programme is on youtube.
Here:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L0O4rvq8ps
Grampian TV.
Never find any of those either....
Here's an extract from 'A Touch of Music', featuring the Fife Youth Jazz Orchestra, which appears to come from Series 2 in 1987 (and not the 1984 or 1989 guessed by the uploaders):- www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEqN2seFq3I
and then there's the time when a bit of a VHS owned by a wee thespian of him playing French Horn on the same show (15/11/1987) ends up on ELLEN!
SOME BLOKE CALLED EWAN McGREGOR*:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc-AOJAjIa0
(*He reportedly owns the whole episode....)
Discovering the earliest known footage of a series is always quite special.
(I'm trying to convince myself at this point....)
So, erm.... here's the earliest known Songs of Praise footage, which surpasses the previous record by nearly 3 years, from Pershore Abbey, 04/03/1962. Yes, yes, it's only an extract and it's a silent 8mm optical transfer at that, but.... it proves things are still turning up, right? www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwZHflN3OA4
Two episodes of Commonwealth Jazz Club - which were filmed in Canada but made 'in co-operation with the BBC' exist in Archives Canada as 16mm kinescopes.
The episodes seems to be the ones from 09/09/1965 and the edition of 30/09/1965.
So while they only get a cursory mention on tvbrain, if Jazz on Four episodes count I think these should!
Because I public announce absolutely everything I find, you can all sleep soundly now you know I've located 2 undated editions of 'Home Cookery Club' at the University of Reading. I am of the strong opinion that these are likely to be wiped episodes.
The University hold all the archives of the now-extinct Butter Council (yes, there was such a thing) and that explains why they're there.
merl.reading.ac.uk/.../04/SR-BC-Full-catalogue.pdf
A playlist on youtube has the following wiped Big Breakfast editions:- 04/09/00; 05/09/00; 06/09/00; 08/09/00; 22/09/00; 20/11/00; 07/08/2001; 08/08/2001; 09/08/2001 and 10/08/2001.
I thought that I'd struck a rich vein of jazz last night and I thought I'd look for some more. It was a good idea.
So, the complete audios (only) to both of the Horace Silver Quintet's appearances on Jazz Goes to College are out there (10/11/1966 and 16/01/1967). These were actually recorded at the same gig....
These came out last year on CD and are apparently legal (so a bit like Pink Floyd's Moonhead), so.... www.resident-music.com/productdetails&product_id=87905?fbclid=IwAR0_qL45uaI8YF7zcAST-KqP0j2Q_6ECpcwAiWy5pTyswwhqQSD1eMrO_Kg
Sit Up and Listen, 11/07/1983.... one I missed.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZVqwkAs0io
other similar shows that are on youtube are for the following dates:- 16/05/1981 (previously noted); 25/11/1981; 04/01/1982; 20/01/1982; 17/03/1982; 23/06/1982; 09/08/1982; 01/12/1982; 26/04/1983; 16/07/1983. There's also an undated one from December 1982 featuring Quentin Crisp.
Most will appear by entering "sit up and listen" and "thames" in the youtube search engine.
A couple I missed.
These two are from Gharbar, the "Programme for Asian Families" that was made by BBC Birmingham and ran for ten years.
Quite a few episodes appear to be missing and these two lengthy excerpts appear to be from xx/xx/1978 and 22/06/1983 and were uploaded by Chi Kri Yoga whom Tara Patel (the featured teacher) was involved with.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Iy5E7fEew
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvBqQNRPjE8
Blink-and-you'll-miss-it show from TVS....
Airmail, 29/07/1985:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=44lf8iwVDzA
I would be very remiss if I didn't try and find some Late Call editions from my adopted homeland.
So here's three I hadn't mentioned or noticed before....
Late Call, 11/06/1988 (with a specially filmed trail for the Highway edition 'Chichester' shown the following day):- www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5V0XGYRb1c
then.... Late Call from 28/12/1986 from our member Aidan Lunn's youtube channel Sticky tape 'n' rust which has got to be the shortest edition ever at an incredible 34 SECONDS (including the title card)!!!!:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZYnAP-yEQQ
and also another one from 23/04/1987 (I would like to apologize for not knowing what the Gaelic-language programme is before, research has proved fruitless!!!!):- www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnipkRJCGho
I expect Adam Smith will already know this, but it seems than an audio tape of Giles, Giles and Fripp from their only TV appearance on Colour Me Pop (30/11/1968) is in the personal collection of a very mannered and well-dressed gent from Dorset.
Of course, the Caravan audio from 15/03/1969 exists too, but.... could we please have an updated list of CMP so I can get it over to Kaleidoscope?
I'm 50/50 as to whether this episode survives or not at the BBC; I've heard conflicting information from several sources.... so as we speak, I'm going to assume it's missing.... and as I can't trust BBCMG because it's been wrong a couple of times this year, let's just assume it IS missing until I ask my contact at the Beeb in a couple of week's time.
The Great Egg Race - this is an episode from 01/05/1984 and the copy comes from one of the winning team (who ALSO says it's a missing episode....).
(*Did I ever tell you I once gave a business presentation with Professor Heinz Wolff? Lovely fella.)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJydazfUibg
(* That was a bit Partridge, wasn't it?)
Mainstream. You don't remember it do you? Unless you've been watching TV Hell or are of a certain age, right?
Described as a 'short lived arts show beset by problems' (which is true), it nonetheless was very brave and was in some ways ahead of its' time. If it had been made 10 years later, the technology would have been better and it would have been a success, but.... alas...
Anyway, I was surprised to learn that some bits were not kept!
So, here's the Human League performing on the edition from 06/11/1979. Some of this episode exists as inserts - but I'm guessing the BBC don't have all the 6 minutes here as this includes linking material by Andy Batten-Foster which would have been live and this comes from an off-air recording. www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJSyM227Hb4
A missing Police 5? (Well, 70% of it....)
The subject matter is quite disturbing and despite this edition being from late August 1982 (the best guesstimate I can make), I'd like to point out that the perpetrator of the awful crime was only eventually brought to justice in 2016 using modern DNA profiling not available at the time.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrjXv-I3RtM
In 2021, MBW Group member Nigel Derek Lamb spotted 'Ethel Merman' on youtube, the eponymously-titled special made by the BBC and shown on 11/06/1964. This isn't in the BBC's archive. (*It's titled 'An Evening with Ethel Merman', but the Radio Times didn't bill it that way.)
I showed an excerpt of this at the BFI when I was a Special Guest at Missing Believed Wiped; obviously I had already snagged a copy of it, and also sent one to the BFI.... which was probably a good thing as it disappeared from youtube in 2022.
It's now reappeared, so.... if you did want to get a copy of it just in case it gets taken down again.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNJHqGA6Ss0
Another except from a wiped show, just 8 minutes or so.
This one is unusual as it's the only episode that is missing....
Get Fresh, was made by a number of the 'smaller' ITV companies during its' 3 year run (Anglia, Border, HTV, STV, TSW, Tyne Tees and Ulster.... just to name the ones I know about) and, perhaps quite fortunately only one episode is lost.
Somewhat surprisingly, it's an Anglia episode from 23/05/1987.
I am quite delighted this episode at least partially exists.... as it's got the Housemartins on it! www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxGSgR_t1Tk
Ultra Quiz 85? Wha? Apparently three episodes of the 1985 series exist in the ADC Collection. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fmM7VPj2Ms
I located most of a BBC Midlands local show a while back (not reported here....) called 'This is.... Waterfall' (24/07/1981(, unsurprisingly featuring local band Waterfall at Pebble Mill.
Anyway, I've also been in touch with one of the musicians who is still touring and confirmed to me a while back that he has a VHS of it somewhere. It's the only missing 'This is....' out of the 7 shows made.
Well, all 5 songs are on youtube.... and that's 16 minutes of the show which was a thirty minute timeslot.
They are here:- www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22this+is+waterfall%22%22bbc%22%22bobmebobs%22
More jazz.
While not quite being the broadcast version (which was edited for length), the 'Jazz on Four' 'Chick Corea and Gary Burton Live in Tokyo' (25/03/1983) is not held in UK Archives, which is not surprising as the copyright is held elsewhere.
But being completist, I thought you'd like to at least that it exists and that you can also watch it:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EXrjSCN8H0
Two AUDIO clips of bits from wiped episodes of Sunday Night at the London Palladium.
The first one is Bruce and Sammy from 01/10/1961. Easy to date, as SDJ only appeared on SNATLP once.
The second extract is Dave King and that's from the following week, 08/10/1961.
Quality is a bit lacklustre (although it gets better...), but I am very glad that these exist. www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGjLQqUxKmI
I sometimes don't look for things.... they find me.
While I was looking for lost BBC Schools programming.... for reasons unknown a lost Max Headroom Show came up!
This is the edition from 24/02/1987, featuring that brilliant old grump Jack Lemmon.
Yes, I'm very aware that a contact of mine has all the Max Headroom episodes in a garage lock-up in Northern California on VHS, but in the meantime, this is still AWOL at the very least.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVZCb4iyuj8
A wee tiddly find this....
Company was the late night TVS equivalent of Night Thoughts or Sit Up and Listen and after locating a couple of unedited editions a while back, I chanced upon this one, which is from 31/01/1987.
The reason I'm confident this is wiped is because none exist from 1987!!!! YES, there's a TVS clock and a National Anthem at the end with Royal footage (all TVS material) for those of you that enjoy those sorts of things. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJccw2IkNOc
DAVID FROST'S MOON PARTY ALERT!!!!!
Something is better than nothing....
'Man on the Moon' (colloquially best known as 'David Frost's Moon Party', which explains the show's format a darn sight better than the bland eventual title....) was ITV's rival to the BBC's Apollo 11 coverage.
The human race's finest technical achievement, all interspersed with live performances by the likes of Engelbert and Cliff.
It was almost unanimously panned as the critics derided the fact that light entertainment would be paired with something as important as humans getting to the Moon.
And, lo.... it disappeared. No trace remained, unlike the footsteps of Neil'n'Buzz on the satellite.
Despite all this - or maybe because of it - the programme was voted 53rd in the list of Most Wanted Lost TV Shows.... and I am delighted to report that a tiddly bit of off-air audio and 8mm film of the programme does exist. It's been hiding in plain sight for many a year....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mYOKUx-shc
You're Johnnie Stewart. It's 1965. You're producing Top of the Pops and those nice young moptops are at Number One AGAIN, and you have some film of them singing their latest chart topper* but you don't want to keep on repeating it.
So, you run down to the film library, snag a copy of London to Brighton in Four Minutes and edit it to that Number One, by golly.
So here, reconstructed by Gary Jordan, is the 13th May 1965's showing of Ticket to Ride accompanied by the aforementioned BBC Film Unit piece.
we.tl/t-VDQeSjOL5z
*the bit of the Fabs performing the same song (which is on the DW episode the Chase, right? Hey, I'm learning!!!!) was aired on the TOTP editions on the 15th and 29th April 1965, and the 6th May. The Intertel for Ticket to Ride hadn't been made at the time and wasn't shown on TOTP until Xmas
Even if a David Bowie interview has been circulated amongst hardcore collectors and been on youtube for 18 months or more, it's still going to be rare....
Such is this regional report, and interview from Tyne Tees' Northern Life dating from 16/06/1978, which neither the BFI or ITV seem to have.
Quality is a bit....dodgy, but....
wiped Bowie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4yQbEk80wg
Here's something that'll interest maybe.... I don't know.... three of you?
It's an LWT-made trail for Christmas Day 1977.
Within it is a specially filmed trail for Sale of the Century (which was shown at different times in different regions, and the show's wiped anyway....)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luej2HvEoTA
Strange Experiences. (no, NOT Stranger Things!)
We go back to the 1950s here, and for those of you who have never heard of this show, it was a short programme lasting four minutes or so, and episodes were shown in the UK on ATV in 1955 and 1956. Some were even being broadcast as late as 1962.
Somewhere between 25 and 28 episodes were made. The BFI have 19. I found most of the rest in the archives of the Wisconsin Historical Society back in 2011 or so, and a number of the existing ones are there too.
This is all well and good. Three are meant to be missing (and the titles are lost to history, as we speak) and then, lo and behold, just the now I stumbled across ten kinescopes on youtube.
I have no idea which episodes they are yet; the point is, as good as it is that many of these exist either in the UK or US, no one has actually had the chance to watch any editions in over 50 years,
Well now you can:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVDBesz5j-Y
Yes, well.... I expect this programme to exist in the US, but.... after extensive checking it appears that the BFI and ITV don't have this.... and it's the only episode tvbrain list as missing, so....
There's one episode missing of This is Tom Jones.
Even though the BFI have acquired a shedload of the series in the past year or two - which proves how much I look for the episodes - and they've transferred the acquired 2-inch quads to Digibeta.... the fact remains one episode is not there, and it's not online either. Even my Tom Jones contact hasn't got it.
It's the episode shown in the US on 01/01/1969 (and the UK on 03/02/1969) featuring Harry Secombe (who was on twice, you know, must have been Welsh solidarity or something?) and Victor Borge, plus Paula Kelly.
Well, bless my old signed Matt Le Tissier Saints shirt if the audio of the show has been held all this time by my old mate Phil R. Gries at Archival Television Audio!
atvaudio.com/ata_search.php?record_id=4846
I still need to find the video element, but....hey.... it's a start.
I think that's it for the day. (Sparks up tab, glugs Irn Bru).
Haste ye back.