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Post by RWels on Dec 20, 2022 19:31:13 GMT
Relatively new anyway; I created that myself around two years ago. Most other US pilots that I know of were all there already, even if they were totally unavailable. Earlier, I used the remake for The mouse that roared as an example of a pilot that we know as a name on a list, but that nobody had seen for a long time - but then someone posted that pilot (from 1966) on youtube. In fact when it comes to US remakes, in late 2022 many have somehow come to light with just "Oh no! Not THEM!" totally inaccessible in any form except for an opening credits claymation.
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Post by RWels on Jul 6, 2023 17:39:53 GMT
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Post by George D on Jul 7, 2023 2:49:17 GMT
Looks like bfi got the print? . At least it appears in good hands
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Post by Gary Wilson on Jul 7, 2023 6:44:59 GMT
No, the event is showcasing Kaleidoscope recoveries, as it says on the programme. So Kal purchased and hold the print.
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Post by John Green on Jul 7, 2023 16:28:42 GMT
No, the event is showcasing Kaleidoscope recoveries, as it says on the programme. So Kal purchased and hold the print. Given that they've released other pilots by Howard, plus the US Steptoe,etc., it's looking good.
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Post by George D on Jul 7, 2023 22:27:52 GMT
It's nice when something so rare we didn't even know was even made, we learn about , and then find.
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Post by sonnybh on Jul 8, 2023 8:57:33 GMT
A few British shows over the years have had pilots for an American version which weren't commissioned.
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Post by RWels on Jul 8, 2023 10:21:56 GMT
A few British shows over the years have had pilots for an American version which weren't commissioned. QUITE a few. Usually they're just not the same as the original! (As in: they lost some of the quality in translation.) In THIS case, I strongly suspect that it was not so bad at all! But American audiences were used to a certain format, let's call it the Happy Days formula, so Up Pompeii was simply TOO different in style, and they couldn't handle it. (Frankie talking to the audience and to the viewers, the 4th wall completely gone...)
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Post by sonnybh on Jul 8, 2023 21:06:58 GMT
The American Red Dwarf & IT Crowd pilots managed to get at least one member of the original cast.
It took a long time for American sitcoms to break that formula, with Frasier & Seinfeld managing to succeed in spite of worries they would be too highbrow for a general audience.
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Post by RWels on Jul 9, 2023 18:34:21 GMT
The American Red Dwarf & IT Crowd pilots managed to get at least one member of the original cast. It took a long time for American sitcoms to break that formula, with Frasier & Seinfeld managing to succeed in spite of worries they would be too highbrow for a general audience. And US The Young Ones, though no-one's ever seen that.
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Post by sonnybh on Jul 9, 2023 20:27:21 GMT
The American Red Dwarf & IT Crowd pilots managed to get at least one member of the original cast. It took a long time for American sitcoms to break that formula, with Frasier & Seinfeld managing to succeed in spite of worries they would be too highbrow for a general audience. And US The Young Ones, though no-one's ever seen that. I forgot about that one!
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Post by RWels on Jul 10, 2023 9:03:01 GMT
And US The Young Ones, though no-one's ever seen that. I forgot about that one! And that's just the tip of the iceberg, there's graveyard full of them... Movies too: there's also a US version of "Mouse that roared" from 1966. It's VERY conceivable that there may be some that we never heard of, especially if they never aired. I am repeating myself here, but Up the toga wasn't known about until recently; despite that fact that there are a few encyclopedic works listing hundreds of pilot episodes.
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