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Post by LanceM on Oct 19, 2006 2:31:59 GMT
Red16v, that sucks. I wonder what happened to it. Hope something can be done there. I have also found a interresting story of wiping and recovery from the United States about Amos and Andy. Have a look: www.newsfromme.com/archives/2005_02_16.htmlLance. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2006 8:52:25 GMT
Interesting story about Amos & Andy. I only hope someone was waiting in a similar way with a car by the skip when Rediffusion went under!
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Post by williammm on Oct 19, 2006 16:59:19 GMT
FAO Andrew Martin, Do you work with Edwin Parsons? I gave him (free) a headblock for an Ampex AVR2 and he has never replied to my emails asking how the BBC got on with it. I'm more than a bit miffed. I'm afraid the beeb don't always say thank you |
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Post by B Thomas on Oct 20, 2006 4:34:01 GMT
Tut, tut, tut... Yeah it's a great shame that they omit little courtesies like that - especially since the corporation (as a whole) is asking Joe Public the hugest of favours by returning material that they no longer own themselves.
Okay - so it is technically still their "intellectual" property in terms of copyright but conversely it is material that was originally "jettisoned" in the first place. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure Maritime law still considers jetsam is no longer the original owner's property once jettisoned - thus making a case for "Finder's, Keeper's"? If so I wonder what the legal ramifications are for the same happening ashore - particularly regarding film collectors who saved discarded items from the skip?
...Sorry - got side-tracked there - back to my original point: I'm certain a simple "thank-you" letter could be composed by a junior on behalf-of-someone senior to send to a contributor (who usually also ends up footing the bill for freight). I don't buy for one second that old "Oh we're too busy" line. I've composed courtesy letters of the sort myself after hours at home more than once (and you don't want to know the sort of hours I put in!). If I can do it - so can the Beeb! Shame on them for taking product from you, red16v, without even giving you so much as a "thank you".
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Post by Tom Morris on Oct 20, 2006 6:22:01 GMT
I did receive a "thank-you" letter with my tapes when I returned the first series of ISIHAC last year.
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Post by B Thomas on Oct 20, 2006 11:31:27 GMT
Ah... that's reassuring to hear. It seems you were dealing with a decent human being in that case.
I hope there was no inference in my last post that everyone at the BBC are tardy in thanking people for support or items supplied. The last thing I want to do is upset people needlessly (as for others - well - the truth only hurts when it ought to).
I must admit I was sent a very nice letter of thanks from the BBC back in the eighties for my (admittedly somewhat limited as it transpired) part in looking for some colour Pertwee "Dr Who"s.
I'm sure there are many professional and genuinely nice people still working for the Beeb but I can't help thinking of a particular New Zealander who was threatened with a possession of copyright lawsuitwhen attempting to do the right thing and return some BBC material. All this despite the 1982 amnesty! Some people are just too officious and belligerent for words. With such a bad relationship with PR - how do they manage to keep their positions?
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Post by Bevan W Thomas on Oct 20, 2006 11:52:16 GMT
There is a good article on the net called "Missing Without Trace" which tells about the junking team. I'll try and find the URL....
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Post by John S Miller on Oct 23, 2006 0:05:24 GMT
Poster not you? But do you have to post replies on every thread complaining about it, and wasting everyone's time? By the way, note that he is "John Stewart Miller", and that you are registered as "John S Miler". Thus they are in fact 2 different names. Your "S" could stand for "Seymour" for all we know. Please keep postings on-topic in the future, Mr Miller.... I don't!!! That is JOHN STUART MILLER. And those people are wasting mine and your time, not me. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2006 9:55:48 GMT
When the orders came to junk or dispose of the unwanted was their a set group of engineers or workers assigned to oversee their destruction? Were these workers always the same people, or were they just random people from all over the BBC? If not then does anyone have a list of these engineers, because they were possibly in the best position to take missing material or at least know others who might have taken material. Has this avenure been fully explored? By the way - Administrators; I don't recall posting this thread - it's not the type of heading I would use. Can you look into this? Not to worry, John. I know you are a real person and that you've had to change your login name several times to avoid being mixed up with the person who calls themselves "John Stuart Miller" (whether or not that is their real name); they seem unable to accept that this is your name too and have frequently implied you aren't real. Therefore, I suggest the person currently registered as "John Stuart Miller" registers under a different name entirely AS OF NOW (as John S.Miller has been posting genuinely here under the name for much longer). "Sean Shannon's" post has also been deleted as it merely reinforces the idea that you are an imposter (which you are NOT). So for anyone's future reference, John S.Miller is the real person and anyone else posting under any other variation of this name or suggesting John S.Miller is not a real person will be deleted. We've had enough of people posing as other people - so it ends now. Let's get back to talking about missing TV, folks! (There is also a posting to the above effect on the music forum). |
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Post by Tim Barker on Nov 17, 2006 7:23:18 GMT
I have read on the net that is what the people who worked on the junking process were refered to as the junking team. Can anyone shed some light on this subject? Lance. I believe the idea of a "junking team" is one of the many bits of complete hogwash to come out of *that* article by Paul Lee. Steve Don't be so sure about that Steve. The junking team really did exist(and may still do so today). It's just that it was a secretive organisation. Even the "random BBC employees" who junked/wiped material didn't really know about it. The true junking team is a far-reaching secretive cult with special handshakes, coded messages, and initiation ceremonies. Every full moon they would meet in the cellar of a Mormon church and sacrifice film prints of Z Cars, Dr Who etc shows to the pagan gods Dah Runh Greh Gree and Rojabarit, who represented life and death. The rarer and more sort afetr the print, the more they were "blessed". Oc sourse the BBC denies all of this today. inetnum: 137.158.0.0 - 137.158.255.255 netname: UCTNET-B descr: University of Cape Town descr: Lovers' Walk descr: Lower Campus descr: Rondebosch descr: Cape Town descr: 7701 country: ZA org: ORG-ZZ213-AFRINIC admin-c: FG51-AFRINIC tech-c: FG51-AFRINIC status: ASSIGNED PI mnt-by: TF-137-158-MNT mnt-lower: TF-137-158-MNT source: AFRINIC # Filtered parent: 0.0.0.0 - 255.255.255.255 |
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Post by Gary C on Nov 17, 2006 8:10:52 GMT
Of course!! In all my years at the BBC, how could I have been so stupid & not sussed it?  ? |
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Post by Andrew Doherty on Nov 17, 2006 11:08:56 GMT
We would like to apologize to the readers of this thread for a temporary loss of sense. Normal postings will resume as soon as possible.
Yours,
ANDy
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Post by Charles Roberts on Nov 20, 2006 11:05:32 GMT
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Post by Gary C on Dec 6, 2006 8:14:58 GMT
FYI : over the years I have been in contact with quite a few retired ex-BBC employees from cameramen to people I used to work with in the VT Library (don't forget I used to work in Radio too) and haven't come across ANYONE who took anything home with them! (and a few of them actually had the chance!)
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