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Post by Brian Denton on Mar 24, 2022 20:53:35 GMT
For years I have been trying to find the English subtitled version of this historical series, which was. shown in 1974/75 on BBC2 as 'The Accursed Kings'. It has been released on DVD in France, but since it was released a long time ago I doubt if that set of DVDs has the bells and whistles we nowadays take for granted ie choice of languages and subtitles. Somebody who knew of my quest sent me an e-mail recently to a Youtube link entitled "Les Rois Maudits - with English Subtitles" and I was delighted until I started watching it and found it was remade in in the early noughties, and the link was to the remade version. Stellar cast, great acting, and to my mind virtually a carbon copy remake of the seventies version, albeit with higher production values and different actors. But I want to see the version I remember as a teenager My French is okay, but not up to watching the original series without subtitles. So my question is whether the version as broadcast by BBC2 in the seventies - complete with Englsh subtitles - is likely to exist anywhere?
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Post by RWels on Mar 25, 2022 10:18:53 GMT
This is an interesting case. The BBC passed on 5 master tapes to the BFI, who currently still have 1, the first episode. No explanation was given about the rest...
Of course, the UK version only had an English voice-over and the rest was still in French. Fan-made subtitles, for the ORIGINAL, do exist, in reasonable quality - even if occasionally there's the odd choice of words.
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Post by Brian Denton on Mar 25, 2022 11:05:55 GMT
Fan-made subtitles, for the ORIGINAL, do exist, in reasonable quality - even if occasionally there's the odd choice of words. Mais où? (See what I did there?)
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Post by RWels on Mar 25, 2022 12:35:44 GMT
With accent, even. They were removed from youtube, so you'd have to buy the French DVD set, and add the srt files that you can find, among other places, here: www.opensubtitles.org/en/ssearch/sublanguageid-all/idmovie-65664It's a bit of a chore but currently that seems to be the only way (I didn't check the streaming services).
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Post by Brian Denton on Mar 25, 2022 13:35:07 GMT
With accent, even. They were removed from youtube, so you'd have to buy the French DVD set, and add the srt files that you can find, among other places, here: www.opensubtitles.org/en/ssearch/sublanguageid-all/idmovie-65664It's a bit of a chore but currently that seems to be the only way (I didn't check the streaming services). Thank you. Most helpful.
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Post by RWels on Mar 25, 2022 17:56:08 GMT
It IS worth it - you might consider this as a direct inspiration for I, Claudius.
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Post by Brian Denton on Mar 27, 2022 20:29:25 GMT
It IS worth it - you might consider this as a direct inspiration for I, Claudius. I am having trouble downloading from Youtube, as my VLC (in Linux - I don't use Wndows or Apple) won't stream Youtube for capture, before I can try superimposing the 'open source(!) subtitles. A more practical solution might be for me to source the French DvD and hope it offers the option of French subtitles. I think I'd be okay with them.
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Post by RWels on Mar 28, 2022 15:59:41 GMT
It IS worth it - you might consider this as a direct inspiration for I, Claudius. I am having trouble downloading from Youtube, as my VLC (in Linux - I don't use Wndows or Apple) won't stream Youtube for capture, before I can try superimposing the 'open source(!) subtitles. A more practical solution might be for me to source the French DvD and hope it offers the option of French subtitles. I think I'd be okay with them. It does not.
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Post by Brian Denton on Mar 29, 2022 19:07:50 GMT
I am having trouble downloading from Youtube, as my VLC (in Linux - I don't use Wndows or Apple) won't stream Youtube for capture, before I can try superimposing the 'open source(!) subtitles. A more practical solution might be for me to source the French DvD and hope it offers the option of French subtitles. I think I'd be okay with them. It does not. Damn - they got me every which way!
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Post by RWels on Mar 29, 2022 20:11:00 GMT
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Post by Brian Denton on Mar 29, 2022 20:57:24 GMT
I'm sure I saw at least some of The Devil's Crown on Youtube a couple of years ago. Had a young Brian Cox (the actor, not the winsome scientist who says 'Amazing!' all the time....)
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Post by Brian Denton on Mar 29, 2022 21:09:06 GMT
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Post by John Green on Mar 29, 2022 21:55:47 GMT
The Amazon listing says "Language French.Dubbed in French." Mind you, one reviewer reckons "The lack of subtitles is unusual. The series was bought and transmitted in the early seventies by the BBC and it had subtitles then, so a version with an English translation does exist." Which could well be wrong. www.amazon.co.uk/Rois-maudits-Lint%C3%A9grale-Gilles-B%C3%A9hat/dp/B00DSL1NBI(I'd go for ebay's £19.99 second-hand price, rather than Amazon's £52...A whopping £2.00 less than their New price.).
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Post by RWels on Mar 30, 2022 18:14:17 GMT
The second picture there already answers your question, namely with a resounding "-". I know of only one DVD release and it hasn't got subtitles. I don't know how it would help that it was once broadcast with subtitles over 40 years ago, especially since only one episode survives that way. The BBC has HoH/HI subtitles on all of its DVDs but they are the only one that do so that I know of, in any country. Network for example doesn't include any for non-BBC programmes.
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Post by RWels on Mar 31, 2022 21:12:14 GMT
Huh... I wonder if this stands any chance as a crowd source project. But I suppose INA would want to see some serious cash before they'd allow it.
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