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Post by maxstenner on Nov 1, 2021 22:11:48 GMT
I’ve just found out about this oddity, a missing episode of Out of the Unknown, in colour, which features the Daleks. I know that at least some audio extracts survive but I have no idea whether the complete audio exists. I know that this was telesnapped and they were published in a fanzine in the mid 80s, does anyone here know which fanzine this was?
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Post by richardwoods on Nov 2, 2021 12:25:58 GMT
It was called Get Off My Cloud, & unless I’m mistaken and I would be delighted to be corrected, the majority if not the complete audio is missing.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Nov 2, 2021 13:38:24 GMT
I’ve just found out about this oddity, a missing episode of Out of the Unknown, in colour, which features the Daleks. I know that at least some audio extracts survive but I have no idea whether the complete audio exists. I know that this was telesnapped and they were published in a fanzine in the mid 80s, does anyone here know which fanzine this was? The idea that telesnaps of this episode were published in a fanzine seems to be an old and completely unsubstantiated fan rumour that still surfaces from time to time. |
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Post by John Wall on Nov 2, 2021 14:11:50 GMT
Get off my cloud was broadcast on 1 April 1969.
John Cura died on 21 April 1969.
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Post by John Green on Nov 2, 2021 15:17:56 GMT
Get off my cloud was broadcast on 1 April 1969. John Cura died on 21 April 1969. For a second, I thought you were going to say it was the other way around! |
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Post by ajsmith on Nov 2, 2021 15:48:28 GMT
I’ve just found out about this oddity, a missing episode of Out of the Unknown, in colour, which features the Daleks. I know that at least some audio extracts survive but I have no idea whether the complete audio exists. I know that this was telesnapped and they were published in a fanzine in the mid 80s, does anyone here know which fanzine this was? The idea that telesnaps of this episode were published in a fanzine seems to be an old and completely unsubstantiated fan rumour that still surfaces from time to time. As far as I'm aware, (and please correct me if I'm wrong on any details) the origin is Ian Levine remembering visiting director Alan Bromley the producer of OOTU series 3 in I think the early 80s and later recalling seeing photos from this story which he recalled as telesnaps chez Bromley. Levine's main memory is of him and Alan laughing at the (intentionally) ridiculous spacesuits worn by the leads in the story. (see image below) The thing is, as someone sharper than me on this forum previously observed (sorry forgotten who) the surviving publicity photos from this episode contain the spacesuit images anyway so Occam's razor would suggest that Levine was slightly mis-remembering and merely recalled seeing copies of the regular publicity photos. I first read the rumour the telesnaps of the Dalek scene were published in an '80s fanzine' in the OOTU retrospective published in the final edition of DWB in 1994 (and this may be the first time the idea appeared in print) and have long hoped there was some truth to it, but on the evidence we have I am forced to conclude it's likely nothing more than Chinese whispers from a time pre internet when fact checking was a lot more difficult. To quote Levine himself though, 'please please please prove me wrong'!  |
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Post by John Wall on Nov 2, 2021 16:09:09 GMT
Seems that the last, known, DW story with telesnaps is Mind Robber.
Overall, I think it unlikely that there are telesnaps of OOTU from three weeks before Cura died.
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Post by ajsmith on Nov 2, 2021 16:13:59 GMT
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Post by Richard Bignell on Nov 2, 2021 16:41:42 GMT
I first read the rumour the telesnaps of the Dalek scene were published in an '80s fanzine' in the OOTU retrospective published in the final edition of DWB in 1994 That is indeed correct, but to be fair, Nick Cooper's article doen't actually mention "telesnaps" or "fanzine". The actual quote is, "I would be grateful if anyone could identify the magazine which ran photos of this scene a few years ago." |
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Post by rebeccajansen on Nov 2, 2021 18:05:30 GMT
Checking on my earliest Who zines as this rings a bell...
Scanning through DWB from 1984-87 and not finding anything, they seem the most logical place to look as they ran many telesnaps for missing Who, even some photos of a tv screen showing Feast Of Steven with script and synopsis (in #50). Anyway, if there was some image printed from Get Off My Cloud with a Dalek it would've been B&W and probably fairly poor quality if in a lower print quality fanzine. I have most of The Frame and Private Who, plus related from the same people, and will check them too, but doubtful now.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Nov 2, 2021 22:07:31 GMT
It definitely won’t be Private Who, which I worked on throughout it’s run. It also definitely won’t be The Frame or any of the 130 issues of DWB.
If any fanzine did publish them, we’d absolutely know it by now - especially as there’s a whole Facebook group dedicated to DW fanzines.
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Post by maxstenner on Nov 2, 2021 22:18:18 GMT
It definitely won’t be Private Who, which I worked on throughout it’s run. It also definitely won’t be The Frame or any of the 130 issues of DWB. If any fanzine did publish them, we’d absolutely know it by now - especially as there’s a whole Facebook group dedicated to DW fanzines. Issue 130 of DWB is an early source for the rumour, it is mentioned that a fanzine published pictures of the Dalek scene. Could it have been an Out of the Unknown or general British Sci-Fi/Cult TV fanzine? |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Nov 2, 2021 23:45:39 GMT
There weren't any OOTU fanzines.
As I've already said above, Nick doesn't mention "fanzine" at all in the article, but rather "magazine" - but I'd lay odds that he was simply querying after a baseless rumour that was floating about rather than anything else. In the pre-internet world of fanzines, they were ten-a-penny.
I think if any Dalek photos from OOTU were ever published (which is highly unlikely in my opinion), I'm fairly sure we'd know about them by now.
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Post by rebeccajansen on Nov 3, 2021 0:51:51 GMT
Oh well, we'll always have that Vision On 'ballet'.  |
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Post by maxstenner on Nov 4, 2021 18:47:56 GMT
Could it have just been a non-specific fanzine dedicated to cult TV/Sci-Fi, if not a Doctor Who one?
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