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Post by John Wall on Aug 30, 2021 23:48:50 GMT
I think they are suggesting phil keeping web 3 for leverage against any other episode. Personally I don't buy it. Mainly because although I think theres a good chance phil won't hand anything back until he's completed his search I do think he would be in contact with the bbc enough to tell them what he has or hasn't found and if the bbc really thought there was any chance of web 3 showing up any time soon we wouldn't of got that god awful animation they just shat out. I wouldn't be surprised if phil currently has a couple of me's either in his possession or with the ability to get possession but I still think when we hear of any itl be one big anoucment and that'll be it from Mr Morris He “handed back” nine MEs.
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Post by barneyhall on Aug 31, 2021 0:16:40 GMT
Yes and he said after that the attention it drew to him and his company made further searching more difficult in some of the more dangerous parts of the world and that subsequently any further returns would be done at the end of his search. Like I said I don't think he would hold web 3 back for leverage he simply doesn't have it. And if he has found anything else we will just have to wait and see. But it will be returned in due time.
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Post by Robert Lia on Aug 31, 2021 0:26:19 GMT
Well who knows what he is doing he may now be searching TV stations that may have bought other BBC shows but not Dr. Who to see if a miss directed film can or two might have ended up on the shelf like those in Nigeria. He could also be searching for Non Dr. Who as well but I don't think if he had found the odd missing episode of Dr. Who that he would hold it back from the BBC especially if it was a story being animated cause if he did that the BBC would have to re release the story with the returned episode on it and charge more for it
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Post by John Wall on Aug 31, 2021 8:16:29 GMT
He found, and returned, quite a few non DW MEs - some of it was shown at the NFT a while ago.
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Post by josephsenior on Aug 31, 2021 15:03:24 GMT
I think they are suggesting phil keeping web 3 for leverage against any other episode. Personally I don't buy it. Mainly because although I think theres a good chance phil won't hand anything back until he's completed his search I do think he would be in contact with the bbc enough to tell them what he has or hasn't found and if the bbc really thought there was any chance of web 3 showing up any time soon we wouldn't of got that god awful animation they just shat out. I wouldn't be surprised if phil currently has a couple of me's either in his possession or with the ability to get possession but I still think when we hear of any itl be one big anoucment and that'll be it from Mr Morris I would just like to clarify I do not believe Phil would use any piece of lost media as leverage. His track record of finding lost media just proves how much he cares about it all.
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Post by anthonybartley on Aug 31, 2021 18:41:59 GMT
Honestly, it's just a thought. I have no idea if he has/hasn't (obviously!)
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Post by josephsenior on Aug 31, 2021 20:46:02 GMT
Honestly, it's just a thought. I have no idea if he has/hasn't (obviously!) I feel like you're thinking more along the lines of Ian Levine, who arguably we owe a fair few episodes to, did withhold a few episodes which he said he kept to use as leverage for other missing episodes.
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Post by richshipton on Aug 31, 2021 21:40:27 GMT
Well the first two of those episodes were labelled to be the `most likely to exist' in Dr Who Bulletin well over thirty years ago. It remains to be seen if your third `more than likely' turns up or is filed in the same category as the Blue Peter episodes. Talking of good ol' Dr Who Bulletin back then, I seem to remember a claim that Power 2 and Evil 3 existed in private hands - we can only hope that this is rooted in fact. Hardly anyone believed the claim that Evil 2 and Faceless Ones 3 existed until they were shown at an event. I also read somewhere that a BBC employee had an attic full of salvaged tapes (not necessarily Doctor Who). What we really need is someone like Sherlock Holmes or D.I. Jack Regan to trawl through the list of BBC employees back in the 70's, trace their children and ask to have a look in their attics! Interesting you mention Power 2 as it’s the source of the most credible (well, credible sounding) rumour I ever got close to. And not one I’ve generally heard tossed around in other rumours since. Back around 91/92 in the early days of t’internet when I was at university I got to know a guy whose initials where CW and spent a few months exchanging emails about all sorts of DW randomness. (remember this was the early 90s when so much was unknown, you could chat about MEs for ages before someone piped up with a “Well we know x and y for a fact so thats impossible”. Back then tales of sons of Canadian station owners who had them all on laserdisc, or shibaden tapes with TP4 all seemed possible. Oh for more innocent naive times lol) Anyway I digress. This guy just struck me as completely down the line, perfectly normal in every way. But one day out of the blue he told me that Power 2 would be back within weeks. He told me he’d seen it - it was missing most of the opening credits and all of the end credits (and this is 20-odd years before Galaxy 4 turned up sans end credits. Hmm), which he said was deliberate according to the owner as he “was paranoid about the bbc copyright angle”. The owner was apparently a big cricket fan so had gone over for an extended trip to watch the ashes that summer, but I was absolutely assured CW had watched the episode. I can’t recall the details but I remember asking him some fairly detailed questions and he had an answer for everything, (although nothing you couldn’t come up with with the telesnaps, the audio, and a bit of imagination!). but he just seemed so absolutely normal in every way (and they were more naive times) I had no reason to disbelieve him. Anyway, clearly it didn’t get returned and I lost contact with the guy. But it just always stuck with me as being a bit more credible than burger vans, Atlantean Fish People having a colour IOTD 1 and all the other lunacy that’s drifted by over the 30 years or so I’ve been lurikinf on the periphery of all this madness. Oh well, maybe in another 30 years it’ll turn out he was right. Who knows…
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Sept 1, 2021 10:00:44 GMT
That was the rumour at the time regarding POTD2 - that the credits were missing. A well known (at the time) fan who had recovered at least one previously missing Hartnell episode was taking this seriously and at one point I recall him telling me he was planning to travel (can't recall the location - possibly somewhere on the south coast? - but I will have it noted) to ensure its recovery. I would have enquired down the line how things went but this is all a bit hazy now. Seem to remember something about being told discussions/negotiations had reached a dead end.
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Post by Richard Marple on Sept 1, 2021 20:47:25 GMT
Wasn't it around this time that the BBC filmed an intro for The Tenth Planet with Michael Craze because a collector claimed to have a copy of part 4 & were willing to let the BBC make a transfer, only to send them a blank tape?
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Post by Robert Lia on Sept 1, 2021 20:52:27 GMT
I smell a Darrin Gregory. . . .
I will never forget that name in conjunction with "The Tenth Planet" Part 4. . . Talk about a fan digging his own grave and filling it in. . .
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Post by John Wall on Sept 1, 2021 21:37:42 GMT
Wasn't it around this time that the BBC filmed an intro for The Tenth Planet with Michael Craze because a collector claimed to have a copy of part 4 & were willing to let the BBC make a transfer, only to send them a blank tape? I think it was believed that TP4 was coming back in time for the VHS release.
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Post by richshipton on Sept 1, 2021 21:43:38 GMT
That was the rumour at the time regarding POTD2 - that the credits were missing. A well known (at the time) fan who had recovered at least one previously missing Hartnell episode was taking this seriously and at one point I recall him telling me he was planning to travel (can't recall the location - possibly somewhere on the south coast? - but I will have it noted) to ensure its recovery. I would have enquired down the line how things went but this is all a bit hazy now. Seem to remember something about being told discussions/negotiations had reached a dead end. Cheers Ronnie. It’s reassuring to know I wasn’t the only one who heard this, although the fact it was a known rumour and my contact swore blind he had viewed the episode tends to make me think it was a hoax all along, and “CW” was just so confident in his source he embellished it a bit when he was talking to me. That and the fact in 30 years it’s never been mentioned again!
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Sept 1, 2021 21:48:40 GMT
That was the rumour at the time regarding POTD2 - that the credits were missing. A well known (at the time) fan who had recovered at least one previously missing Hartnell episode was taking this seriously and at one point I recall him telling me he was planning to travel (can't recall the location - possibly somewhere on the south coast? - but I will have it noted) to ensure its recovery. I would have enquired down the line how things went but this is all a bit hazy now. Seem to remember something about being told discussions/negotiations had reached a dead end. Cheers Ronnie. It’s reassuring to know I wasn’t the only one who heard this, although the fact it was a known rumour and my contact swore blind he had viewed the episode tends to make me think it was a hoax all along, and “CW” was just so confident in his source he embellished it a bit when he was talking to me. That and the fact in 30 years it’s never been mentioned again! Yes and the alleged owner of the print not being around due to a cricket tour does ring a bell also!
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Sept 1, 2021 21:50:21 GMT
Wasn't it around this time that the BBC filmed an intro for The Tenth Planet with Michael Craze because a collector claimed to have a copy of part 4 & were willing to let the BBC make a transfer, only to send them a blank tape? I think it was believed that TP4 was coming back in time for the VHS release. Ah the widely reported Shibaden tape hoax which even took JNT in. Not the work of Darren Gregory though..................
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