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Post by John Wall on Jan 30, 2022 18:48:05 GMT
It’s worth remembering that digital storage is now extremely cheap. If the equipment is available and you’ve got a reel of film……
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Post by Ralph Rose on Jan 31, 2022 5:03:45 GMT
It’s worth remembering that digital storage is now extremely cheap. If the equipment is available and you’ve got a reel of film…… This is exactly what UCLA is doing with their archive, etc...
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Post by lousingh on Jan 31, 2022 23:24:13 GMT
I still say that the best places left are British embassies in countries where they got shipped to.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 31, 2022 23:39:47 GMT
I still say that the best places left are British embassies in countries where they got shipped to. The prints were shipped to broadcasters not embassies.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Feb 1, 2022 1:46:04 GMT
I still say that the best places left are British embassies in countries where they got shipped to. The prints were shipped to broadcasters not embassies. The annual BBC Handbooks do make reference to programmes being shown in British Embassies. They don't say which programmes nor which Embassies. It would have been under the Non-Theatric sales arrangement, or similar to that which the BFBS had for its military bases in West Germany and the Falklands.
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Post by John Wall on Feb 1, 2022 13:38:59 GMT
Interesting 👍
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Post by George D on Feb 16, 2022 17:42:33 GMT
Its almost 50 years since the bbc enterprise prints were released and found a home.
Hopefully there is more for the 60th but it's been 9 years since a recovery
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Post by RossL on Mar 28, 2022 9:15:58 GMT
Just as a follow up to this discussion about legalities of programming on satellite TV I was watching the Formula 1 race yesterday for free. The channel was broadcasting on an obscure far eastern controlled satellite, and was pirating coverage from Sky Sports Italy, complete with the Italian audio. Premier league football is also available for free from similar sources.
Thus never fall into the trap of thinking "they dont have the rights to show that so it cant have happened" Because some operators really dont care about legal niceties.
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Post by John Wall on Mar 28, 2022 10:17:39 GMT
Just as a follow up to this discussion about legalities of programming on satellite TV I was watching the Formula 1 race yesterday for free. The channel was broadcasting on an obscure far eastern controlled satellite, and was pirating coverage from Sky Sports Italy, complete with the Italian audio. Premier league football is also available for free from similar sources. Thus never fall into the trap of thinking "they dont have the rights to show that so it cant have happened" Because some operators really dont care about legal niceties. It’s easier nowadays. To some extent I think it depends upon the copyright holders and how concerned they are.
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Post by gregoryfink on Mar 30, 2022 15:10:41 GMT
The point about the non-copyright observant stations broadcasting what they want is a very good one. I know growing up, pre-home video, we saw all sorts of things on 16mm brought to our school to show us on cold winter days at lunch. Usually old kids films but once we got a box of television commercials to watch. what a strange day that was. My guess is when you have airtime to fill if an old box of say the avengers 16mm prints showed up you would put them on and think nothing of it. We are much more concerned today with copyright of older material.
Trouble with that kind of a showing is that there would be zero records of it anywhere so good luck finding the whereabouts of the film prints now. I hope they ended up somewhere that we can find them
Greg
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Post by lousingh on Apr 2, 2022 20:06:09 GMT
The prints were shipped to broadcasters not embassies. The annual BBC Handbooks do make reference to programmes being shown in British Embassies. They don't say which programmes nor which Embassies. It would have been under the Non-Theatric sales arrangement, or similar to that which the BFBS had for its military bases in West Germany and the Falklands. My late father was a diplomatic functionary in the Indian government when it was founded. My late mother's late father was China's ambassador to the UN when it was founded. The idea that missing Doctor Who episodes not only could but *should* end up in British embassies was their idea. According to them, when some public entity comes into possession of materiel which they know came from another country (and usually private entities too), if they don't know how to return it, they are expected to turn it over to the embassy. So if some janitor finds a missing episode of Doctor Who and does not know the name of the intermediary for the BBC in his country, international protocol dictates that the local government should turn it over to the British embassy to return to the BBC. This process breaks down at the end because the embassy staff usually have far more important things on their agenda than determining if a 30 year old can of episode 5 of "The Power of the Daleks" means anything.
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