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Post by iankmclachlan on Sept 11, 2006 21:12:53 GMT
One play I remember from the 1960s is 'Jamie on a Flying Visit.' It starred Anton Rodgers and Felecity Gibson. Obviously if it was a Wednesday Play then it no longer exists. But perhaps it wasn't. Does anyone know for sure one way or the other. Thanks.
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Post by Andrew Martin on Sept 12, 2006 16:46:35 GMT
It was a "Wednesday Play", and no, it doesn't exist.
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Post by charlieweeks on Feb 24, 2007 11:13:02 GMT
I am very intereseted in two Wednesday Plays, A Tap On The Shoulder and The Coming Out Party. I see that A Pedant Guest has made reference to them. Can anyone please tell me as a newcomer what the Kal 97 guide is and what is meant by 16mm t/r. ? Do both plays exist in full?
Cheers
Charlie
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Post by hartley967 on Feb 24, 2007 16:26:38 GMT
I am very intereseted in two Wednesday Plays, A Tap On The Shoulder and The Coming Out Party. I see that A Pedant Guest has made reference to them. Can anyone please tell me as a newcomer what the Kal 97 guide is and what is meant by 16mm t/r. ? Do both plays exist in full? Cheers Charlie The Kal Guide refers to an organisation called Kaleidoscope. In the 1990s their founders (like us perhaps?) assumed that everything THAT had been on TV had been kept , it was only when they dug a bit deeper found it was not so. So they started trying to bring everything that was known about programmes into a huge reference that would aid people trying to find these programmes, the result was the Kal Guide. Roughly there has been Kal95, Kal97 and Kal2003 Each one has improved accuracy of the previous edition on what is obviously a mammouth task involving faded paperwork and memories. I think its the Kal97 which is on line here? and you can use it yourself lostshows.comnothing like the elaborate and lovingly put together Kal books, but does tell you basically what is left. ----- 16mm t/r = this means a telerecording- basically something that was filmed off a TV screen and not the master recording. reasons for use. This was the only way to record a programme before the invention of the videotape machine circa 1958. Later on one of their uses was to export British tape oriented programmes abroad.. Why didn't they just do a tape to tape you might ask? Well Britain had the oldest and thus antiquated TV system in the world (405 lines with AM sound) up and till the end of the 1960s, which nobody else used because technology had moved on by the time they had introduced their own TV system. So British made tapes just would not play anywhere else. Another reason for their use was Ampex Video machines were very expensive, but a poor TV station could quite cheaply set up basically a 16mm projector and point a camera at it and transmit the programme like that, They were convenient in way that they could be visually inspected and judged in about 10 seconds flat for abnormalities, a VTR would need lacing onto machine and run through. The other thing to know about TRs is that the majority of them are in black and white when the programme might have originally been made in colour . hope that is of help |
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Post by Robert Manners on Feb 25, 2007 18:52:28 GMT
I have seen the 'THE WEDNESDAY PLAY:THE LAST TRAIN THROUGH .... 01/10/69', It was very good indeed. It was in Black & White since it was of a 16mm Film print, not sure if it was in colour when first shown like!  |
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Post by Andrew Martin on Feb 26, 2007 17:49:37 GMT
I am very intereseted in two Wednesday Plays, A Tap On The Shoulder and The Coming Out Party. I see that A Pedant Guest has made reference to them. Can anyone please tell me as a newcomer what the Kal 97 guide is and what is meant by 16mm t/r. ? Do both plays exist in full? Cheers Charlie Both these plays are held by the National Film Archive, the BBC no longer has copies of either. |
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Post by Robert Manners on Feb 26, 2007 19:15:33 GMT
I am very intereseted in two Wednesday Plays, A Tap On The Shoulder and The Coming Out Party. I see that A Pedant Guest has made reference to them. Can anyone please tell me as a newcomer what the Kal 97 guide is and what is meant by 16mm t/r. ? Do both plays exist in full? Cheers Charlie Both these plays are held by the National Film Archive, the BBC no longer has copies of either. If the BBC wished to have access to these the National Film Archive would let them surely Andrew! |
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Post by charlieweeks on Feb 27, 2007 17:59:55 GMT
Gentlemen
Many, many thanks for your replies, especially the technical reply to one who was totally baffled by the jargon. I have been ferreting on ebay and have come across someone who at least has heard of a Tap On The Shoulder. The Wednesday Play is rightly held in high regard and is not simply a case of rose tinted spectacles. What if we were to make a representation to the BBC/BFI to get as many as possible issued on DVD? Any quality copy would be better than letting them decay on the shelves and the vultures at the BBC might make a few bob. Your thoughts please.
Charlie
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Post by Andrew Martin on Feb 27, 2007 19:09:40 GMT
Both these plays are held by the National Film Archive, the BBC no longer has copies of either. If the BBC wished to have access to these the National Film Archive would let them surely Andrew! If the BBC wants copies of its own material from the NFA it has to pay for it, as does any other donor - and it's not particularly cheap. Therefore the BBC would probably only get copies back if there was a pressing reason to do so - e.g. to repeat them, assuming the budget was available. |
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Post by Robert Manners on Mar 9, 2007 18:23:48 GMT
Well I must say that is a shock to me, If the BBC wants copies of its own material from the NFA it has to pay for it, as does any other donor. What advantage does anyone get then for been a donor of material then???
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Post by hartley967 on Mar 10, 2007 9:55:17 GMT
Well I must say that is a shock to me, If the BBC wants copies of its own material from the NFA it has to pay for it, as does any other donor. What advantage does anyone get then for been a donor of material then??? Hi Robert If you put your old granny in home, she would need to be paid for for care wouldnt she? apart from being elderly programmes, we know that square footage is a premium and costs a fortune. One of the reasons old prgrammes got trashed in the past was simply because new programme makers would be given rooms and would chuck out everything left in it from the previous occupants. Also whatever is being paid for is hopefully going towards making it more accessable to future audiences? |
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Post by Andrew Martin on Mar 10, 2007 14:43:24 GMT
I have seen the 'THE WEDNESDAY PLAY:THE LAST TRAIN THROUGH .... 01/10/69', It was very good indeed. It was in Black & White since it was of a 16mm Film print, not sure if it was in colour when first shown like! It was produced as a 35mm b/w telerecording, which is the format the BBC still hold it on (the original material in fact). |
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Post by Peter Elliott on Jul 6, 2007 14:52:05 GMT
I am in correspondence with a Julie Driscoll collector and we are intrigued to learn of the first 1970s edition, "Season Of The Witch" featuring Julie Driscoll in a rare acting role. Its great to know this has survived - could anyone tell us what format it exists in? I would guess its a b+w telerecording but maybe I will be proved wrong! Any details on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Post by Andrew Martin on Jul 6, 2007 15:38:27 GMT
No, it was made on 16mm colour film, and exists in that format.
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Post by Stephen Doran on Jul 6, 2007 15:42:40 GMT
Id like to see this again Robert Powell and Paul Nicholas were in it too.
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