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Post by Stephen Byers on Dec 7, 2020 13:52:38 GMT
www.britmovie.co.uk/forum/living-room/british-television/80130-britbox-till-death-us-do-part-excludedTill Death Us Do Part ran on the BBC from 1965-1975 and starred Warren Mitchell as the bigoted Alf Garnett. Love Thy Neighbour was an ITV show, broadcast from 1972-76, about the relationship between a white couple and a black couple who lived next door to one another. Both shows have been accused of racism. Johnny Speight, creator of Till Death Us Do Part, maintained that he wanted audiences to laugh at Garnett, not with him, but that was not always the case. However, many [other] BBC shows are missing [too] because they are licenced to rival broadcasters. There is no Bodyguard, Line of Duty, Monty Python’s Flying Circus, Alan Partridge or most of the landmark shows of Sir David Attenborough, as they can be found on Netflix or elsewhere. Nor are vintage comedy series [included, such as] Dad’s Army, Hancock’s Half Hour, Steptoe and Son or The Morecambe and Wise Show. Those excited at the prospect of watching every series of Doctor Who from 1963 to its cancellation in 1989 will have to wait until Boxing Day, when they will be added to the line-up. Anyone hoping to browse BritBox’s contents before deciding whether or not to sign up will find it impossible to do so - access to the website is denied unless users provide credit card details and sign up for a monthly subscription.
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Post by Ed Brown on Dec 7, 2020 14:17:49 GMT
For obvious reasons, they are not going to allow potential subscribers to learn that their favourite show is not included in their over-priced package!
For more than a month, they have been advertising Doctor Who as a main part of the Britbox service, so it is highly deceptive if they are not in fact including it in their service this year. Probably there are a small number of serials included this year, since Who has been so prominent in their tv advertising campaign.
But are we really bothered? I won't be subscribing, for one, since I have had all the episodes on video since about 1995.
I'm told that the Alf Garnett tv series has been banned on Britbox as it's deemed politically incorrect by the snowflakes. So if you are looking for that show, best look elsewhere too.
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Dec 7, 2020 21:55:15 GMT
Not sure why you're quoting from an article that's over a year old, Stephen!
BritBox has improved considerably since it launched with just a couple of hundred titles on November 7th last year. It now has 900 different titles including many archive titles from ITV, BBC and Channel 4. It may be missing some of the politically incorrect shows but it has plenty of other obscure programmes to keep me happy since I cancelled my TV licence...
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Dec 11, 2020 4:42:28 GMT
A lot of the stuff Stephen mentions was never owned by BBC. So BritBox they'd have to outbid Netflix or whoever for the rights.
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Post by brianfretwell on Dec 12, 2020 16:16:22 GMT
I thought when he said censored that he meant they were there but cut to pieces, not just not available or not yet available.
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Post by mattg on Dec 12, 2020 17:18:39 GMT
Not sure why you're quoting from an article that's over a year old, Stephen! BritBox has improved considerably since it launched with just a couple of hundred titles on November 7th last year. It now has 900 different titles including many archive titles from ITV, BBC and Channel 4. It may be missing some of the politically incorrect shows but it has plenty of other obscure programmes to keep me happy since I cancelled my TV licence... It’s certainly easy to dismiss the omission of TV shows and/or films long adjudged to be ‘controversial’ from streaming platforms. Indeed, the absence of the likes of ‘Till Death Us Do Part’ from Britbox will hardly come as a surprise to most. However it’s concerns over what will soon be adjudged verboten by certain dubious societal cadres that seem to wield vastly disproportionate power to their diminutive numbers that’s so concerning. Censorship is after all a perpetually transient beast of which sets ever shifting boundaries of permissibility. Yet those boundaries are no longer being dictated by public taste (and said boundaries seem to be shifting on almost a daily basis in these ever turbulent times). Therefore, think of your favourite (presumably non “politically incorrect”!) comedies and then tell me how long you think they’ve got before they too join Alf Garnett in comedy’s very own room 101, speculatively adjudged (and condemned) ‘problematic’. Because the timer is assuredly ticking... That’s the paramount issue here (or at least it should be), not that the much maligned Alf Garnett has been shunned again but that society is unwittingly wending its way down on a very dark, censorious road. The aforementioned ‘Till Death..., Love Thy Neighbour et al are just the beginning....
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Post by RWels on Dec 12, 2020 17:57:25 GMT
Not sure why you're quoting from an article that's over a year old, Stephen! BritBox has improved considerably since it launched with just a couple of hundred titles on November 7th last year. It now has 900 different titles including many archive titles from ITV, BBC and Channel 4. It may be missing some of the politically incorrect shows but it has plenty of other obscure programmes to keep me happy since I cancelled my TV licence... It’s certainly easy to dismiss the omission of TV shows and/or films long adjudged to be ‘controversial’ from streaming platforms. Indeed, the absence of the likes of ‘Till Death Us Do Part’ from Britbox will hardly come as a surprise to most. However it’s concerns over what will soon be adjudged verboten by certain dubious societal cadres that seem to wield vastly disproportionate power to their diminutive numbers that’s so concerning. Censorship is after all a perpetually transient beast of which sets ever shifting boundaries of permissibility. Yet those boundaries are no longer being dictated by public taste (and those boundaries seem to be shifting on almost a daily basis in these ever turbulent times). Therefore, think of your favourite (presumably non “politically incorrect”!) comedies and then tell me how long you think they’ve got before they too join Alf Garnett in comedy’s very own room 101, speculatively adjudged (and condemned) ‘problematic’. Because the timer is assuredly ticking... That’s the paramount issue here (or at least it should be), not that the much maligned Alf Garnett has been shunned again but that society is unwittingly wending its way down on a very dark, censorious road. The aforementioned ‘Till Death..., Love Thy Neighbour et al are just the beginning.... OOI, have you ever heared of the "winterval" incident?
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Post by John Wall on Dec 12, 2020 18:27:01 GMT
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Post by RWels on Dec 12, 2020 18:43:18 GMT
Isn't that source the website that some describe as "The site that claims to be for unheard voices, while its contributors are a parade of people who already have big media profiles, or are think-tank directors with books out."? As with my previous post, I would simply ask people to go easy on the whole "we're under attack" motif.
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Post by richardwoods on Dec 12, 2020 19:39:10 GMT
Its Groundhog Day folks!!
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Post by John Wall on Dec 12, 2020 23:00:46 GMT
Isn't that source the website that some describe as "The site that claims to be for unheard voices, while its contributors are a parade of people who already have big media profiles, or are think-tank directors with books out."? As with my previous post, I would simply ask people to go easy on the whole "we're under attack" motif. It’s “unherd” - I’ve understood that to be not part of the herd.
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Post by RWels on Dec 12, 2020 23:48:20 GMT
Isn't that source the website that some describe as "The site that claims to be for unheard voices, while its contributors are a parade of people who already have big media profiles, or are think-tank directors with books out."? As with my previous post, I would simply ask people to go easy on the whole "we're under attack" motif. It’s “unherd” - I’ve understood that to be not part of the herd. With respect, that could mean anything. Among other things it can also be read as looking down on the mass of sheeple, or else, as a rather suspicious emphasis. Or as antidemocratic - sod the will of the people? (Biologically speaking, at least, man lives in social connections. So if you're not in the herd, then good luck on finding food on your own. )
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Post by John Wall on Dec 13, 2020 0:14:39 GMT
Words mean what I want them to!
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Post by mattg on Dec 13, 2020 10:42:02 GMT
It’s certainly easy to dismiss the omission of TV shows and/or films long adjudged to be ‘controversial’ from streaming platforms. Indeed, the absence of the likes of ‘Till Death Us Do Part’ from Britbox will hardly come as a surprise to most. However it’s concerns over what will soon be adjudged verboten by certain dubious societal cadres that seem to wield vastly disproportionate power to their diminutive numbers that’s so concerning. Censorship is after all a perpetually transient beast of which sets ever shifting boundaries of permissibility. Yet those boundaries are no longer being dictated by public taste (and those boundaries seem to be shifting on almost a daily basis in these ever turbulent times). Therefore, think of your favourite (presumably non “politically incorrect”!) comedies and then tell me how long you think they’ve got before they too join Alf Garnett in comedy’s very own room 101, speculatively adjudged (and condemned) ‘problematic’. Because the timer is assuredly ticking... That’s the paramount issue here (or at least it should be), not that the much maligned Alf Garnett has been shunned again but that society is unwittingly wending its way down on a very dark, censorious road. The aforementioned ‘Till Death..., Love Thy Neighbour et al are just the beginning.... OOI, have you ever heared of the "winterval" incident? ...well I would be lying if I said that I hadn’t expected the Charm School’s preeminent alumni to descend upon this incendiary topic with his customary reverence! Still, in the (likely optimistic) interests of constructive discourse please elucidate on what specifically I’ve asserted that you so obviously contend (and preferably without resorting to attributing wholly embellished, utterly false quotes to me, as you did last time we ‘debated’ this incendiary issue I recall ). It is after all potentially insightful for others to have alternate, opposing perspectives on such an important (and sadly increasingly pertinent) topic.
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Post by richardwoods on Dec 13, 2020 11:15:10 GMT
Does anyone remember the episode of Stargate SG1 when the team were stuck in an ever repeating day. They eventually realised & started doing different things like hitting golf balls through the Stargate.................
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