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Post by deansmith92 on Oct 26, 2020 20:18:37 GMT
I'm currently talking with a fan on the comment section of this video (https://youtu.be/6a0pS3lubwo). He said :
"I have a lot of early Dr.Who tape. I would love to get them to a professional archivist. No longer having a VCR I can't speak to their quality. Some years back our local PBS station ran all of the episodes in order. I did my best to record all of them". He tried to contact the BBC and PBS but zero response. What can he do
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Post by Lucy Wagner on Oct 26, 2020 21:23:51 GMT
I seriously doubt that any PBS VCR recordings would have much of a chance of containing missing material, besides maybe colour copies of some Pertwees?
Though I am not sure if any of them run in the US back then and even if, he must have been extremely early to the entire home recording party to get those. But someone else here will know more about that.
Still, if he believes there might be a small chance of them containing interesting material, I recommend contacting Paul Vanezis, he's quite easy to get hold of via Twitter and should be more than capable of judging if these recordings might have anything to them and how to proceed in that case.
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Post by George D on Oct 26, 2020 21:47:42 GMT
Based on saying it was from a pbs run of all episodes in order, it is unlikely the missing color pertwees. They would have been late 70s and the major run of all episodes would be 80s.
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Post by deansmith92 on Oct 26, 2020 22:27:48 GMT
Based on saying it was from a pbs run of all episodes in order, it is unlikely the missing color pertwees. They would have been late 70s and the major run of all episodes would be 80s. He also said : "I just want to get them back into circulation. I'm not looking to profit from this" : he implies that he recorded episodes that are now missing. But judging by what you're saying, PBS never aired Hartnell and Troughton episodes ? |
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Post by John Wall on Oct 26, 2020 23:10:31 GMT
iirc there are colour Pertwees that were broadcast in the US that haven’t been recovered in colour.
The chances of any being included are minimal but we’re at the grasping at straws stage!
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Post by RhysH on Oct 27, 2020 9:49:15 GMT
Nice to hear from someone who is keen to share what they have and get it back out to the wider world.
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Post by RWels on Oct 27, 2020 9:55:23 GMT
Based on saying it was from a pbs run of all episodes in order, it is unlikely the missing color pertwees. They would have been late 70s and the major run of all episodes would be 80s. He also said : "I just want to get them back into circulation. I'm not looking to profit from this" : he implies that he recorded episodes that are now missing. But judging by what you're saying, PBS never aired Hartnell and Troughton episodes ? It all depends when and what system. It's simply much more likely to find recordings from a time when "missing was already missing". |
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Post by Richard Marple on Oct 27, 2020 10:36:21 GMT
iirc there are colour Pertwees that were broadcast in the US that haven’t been recovered in colour. The chances of any being included are minimal but we’re at the grasping at straws stage! I've pondered if an American fan managed to record any Pertwee episodes in the mast, it's quite a narrow timescale as when PBS were showing them home video was in it's infancy and tapes were often reused due to their price. |
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Post by tombeveridge on Oct 27, 2020 12:33:32 GMT
What he very well may have are the Howard da Sylva narration episodes. These were episodes that were prefaced by rather ponderous introductions (presumably on the assumption that Americans either couldn't understand the plot, or might have missed the preceding episode). ISTR they had ads, so not PBS.
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Post by tom rogers on Oct 27, 2020 14:32:17 GMT
My local PBS station ran Dr. Who consistently between 1976 and the early 1990s. I recorded everything they ran and still have all the tapes. We saw all the complete stories that were then-existing from Hartnell through McCoy. They even showed Tomb after it was recovered, as well as the restored colour version of Silurians. However, most were edited in that except for the initial opening credits and the final closing credits (from the first and last episodes, respectively) all the credits in-between were removed and the episodes all strung together. The splices kept all of the bumpers/cliffhangers intact (you can hear the beginnings/endings of the theme music start to swell at the splice points), often leading to doubled or repeated scenes (albeit from different episodes and from different recordings). Some stories were shown as separate episodes (e.g. colour Silurians, Tomb), but most had the in-between credits edited out as described above. None of the stories shown had the Da Silva intros or narration.
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Post by A Barron on Oct 27, 2020 15:11:36 GMT
He just posted this:
The Station is WVIZ Cleveland Ohio
They started with An Unearthly Child and went on from there.
I am a terrible organizer but here is what I have so far:
1- Power of Kroll, City of Death
2- Warriors Gate, The Keeper of the Traken
3- Snakedance, Mawdryn Undead
4- The Ribos Operation, The Pirate Planet
5- Terminus
6- The Armageddon Factor, Destiny of the Daleks
7- The Horror of Fang Rock, The Invisible Enemy
8- The Creature from the Pit, Nightmare of Eden
9- The Horns of Nimon, Meglos
10-Sunmakers, Underworld
11-The Visitation, The Black Orchid, Earthshock
12-Dragonfire
13-Robots of Death, Talons of Weng Chiang
14-The Daemons
15=Hand of Fear, Face of Evil
16-Revelation of the Daleks, Trial of a Time Lord
17-Logopolis, Castrovalva
18-The Claws of Axos, Colony in Space, Day of the Daleks
19-The Caves of Androzani, untitled Colin Baker
20-Resurection of the Daleks
21-Planet of Fire, The Twin Dilema
22-Four to Doomsday, Kinda
23-Brain of Morbius, The Seeds of Doom, The Mask of Mandragora
24-Full Circle, State of Decay
25-Vengence on Varos, Mark of the Rani
26-Carnival of Monsters
27-Invasion of Time, The Stones of Blood
28-Time Flight, Arc of Infinity
29-Dr Who Special ?
30-Dr Who Movie ?
A commercial video: Destiny of the Daleks
Also 15 tapes that have unreadable labels
No missing stories so far or anything before The Daemons. Could the "Dr Who" film be one of Peter Cushings? What could the special be? Maybe one of the shorts they made in the eighties?
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Post by Richard Bignell on Oct 27, 2020 15:51:34 GMT
What could the special be? Maybe one of the shorts they made in the eighties? Very probably of the American specials that Eric Luskin did back in the 1980s. |
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Oct 27, 2020 16:35:56 GMT
He just posted this:
The Station is WVIZ Cleveland Ohio
They started with An Unearthly Child and went on from there. Looking at broadwcast.org/index.php/Cleveland they didn't air Unearthly Child until 1986. So these are likely 1987 and later recordings. That post-dates even the DaSilva introductions ... and the missing Pertwee colour by years. I'd assume that the special then (which aired on WNED Buffalo, just down the road, in that time frame) was the Silver Nemesis making of special. Nothing of interest here I'm afraid. |
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Post by RWels on Oct 27, 2020 16:48:03 GMT
Could he have other BBC programs?
Yes, I know, OTHER programs than Doctor Who! Blasphemy!
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Post by George D on Oct 27, 2020 20:46:45 GMT
Pbs did air hartnells and troughhtons in the 1980s. Things aired at that time fully exist. Missing color pertwees were aired in the 1970s only. While they could have been aired on pbs, it was not part of the 1980s syndication package that included hartnell trougton. The fact that extensive restoration has been completed, an off air color pertwee, while worth preserving, might not add much value The best find in those would be clips from pledgebreaks that might have included who actors, but the bbc likely doesn't care about that. Other materials that might have value could be regional programming. Based on saying it was from a pbs run of all episodes in order, it is unlikely the missing color pertwees. They would have been late 70s and the major run of all episodes would be 80s. He also said : "I just want to get them back into circulation. I'm not looking to profit from this" : he implies that he recorded episodes that are now missing. But judging by what you're saying, PBS never aired Hartnell and Troughton episodes ? |
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