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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2020 5:31:05 GMT
This is more missing airdates than missing episodes, but I'm looking for information about screenings of Battle of the Planets on shows like the Multicoloured Swap Shop and Saturday Superstore in the 1980s. Information about these broadcasts was not printed in the Radio Times, so it's not available on the Genome.
I think a lot of episodes may have had their first broadcast on those shows - I was around at the time and I have a definite memory of seeing the episode 'Giant Gila Monster' on (I think) the Swap Shop, because as much as the episode itself I remember how the presenters introduced it, telling us it was about 'the last of the Zenobians.'
I have the episode titles for the Radio Times-confirmed run of episodes on the Saturday Picture Show in 1985, but I've got no information about screenings on the Swap Shop or the Saturday Superstore. Can anyone help me here?
There's no Radio Times listings at all for four episodes: 'A Whale Joins G-Force' 'The Ghostly Grasshopper' 'Secret Island' or 'The Charioteers of Changu' - so these ones can only have been screened on Saturday morning shows. (I've found out that 'The Ghostly Grasshopper' was part of the Saturday Picture Show run in '85, but the other three were not; and I suspect this was a repeat screening anyway.)
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Post by Richard Marple on Sept 25, 2020 8:51:57 GMT
I mostly remember this show being screened on weekday mornings in the summer holidays.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2020 9:22:50 GMT
It got screened all over the place, really - week day afternoons, weekday mornings during school holidays, and Saturday mornings. There were 85 episodes of BOTP, and the Beeb had the show from 1979-85 and they made the most of it during that time, because it was always popular.
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Post by Richard Marple on Sept 25, 2020 21:08:19 GMT
It got screened all over the place, really - week day afternoons, weekday mornings during school holidays, and Saturday mornings. There were 85 episodes of BOTP, and the Beeb had the show from 1979-85 and they made the most of it during that time, because it was always popular. According to one book I have about 56 were shown by the BBC, though possibly only at stand-alone screenings rather than as inserts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 4:48:35 GMT
No, your source is way off there. There are Radio Times confirmed broadcasts for all but those four episodes I mentioned above.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 5:49:55 GMT
Actually, I made this list which shows all the Radio Times confirmed broadcasts of BOTP along with my guesswork about Saturday morning airings. It would be nice if someone here could tell me how right or wrong my guesswork is.
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Post by Richard Marple on Sept 26, 2020 12:52:11 GMT
It was Encyclopedia of TV Science Fiction I was quoting, which mostly concentrated on live action programmes, but also had a section for animated shows.
The writer Roger Foulton used the Radio & TV Times archives to establish airdates where possible.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 19:46:07 GMT
I got all my broadcast dates from the Genome website. And I guy I spoke to at the Genome was kind enough to check the paperwork to find the identities of the episodes shown on the Saturday Picture Show in 1985. But he's way too buay to go through all the paperwork for the last three seasons of Swap Shop and the first three of Saturday Superstore to look for Battle of the Planets broadcasts - I'd have to book an appointment to go the Beeb's document archive myself, and that would cost a lot of money! So that's why I'm hoping there's somebody out there who's already got the info I'm looking for.
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Post by Richard Marple on Sept 26, 2020 21:05:38 GMT
I have been tempted to buy the box set of this series, or possible one of the more recent dubs that are closer to the anime series.
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Post by christian bews on Sept 27, 2020 3:03:48 GMT
It was Encyclopedia of TV Science Fiction I was quoting, which mostly concentrated on live action programmes, but also had a section for animated shows. The writer Roger Foulton used the Radio & TV Times archives to establish airdates where possible. the animated section featured in the first edition of this book that was published back in 1990 which i remembered buying days after it was issued.but from the second edition onwards the animated section was not featured in future editions and was replaced by a expanded section of one-off plays.
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Post by christian bews on Sept 27, 2020 3:11:47 GMT
i do remember every time the BBC screened 'battle of the planets' as a stand-alone programme in their children's strand and radio times always billed the first episode of every series as a 'new series'.i find this a bit confusing at the time they showed in this 'new series' for the first episode or two as new episodes but i think they showed repeats or in further runs indicating as a 'new' series new episodes interspersed with repeats during the run.did anyone remember seeing those weird runs?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 12:20:00 GMT
You should check the file I attached to the fifth post for all the info on that subject. The summer 1983 season is like what you're describing: it kicks off with two new episodes and then the rest are all repeats.
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Post by Richard Marple on Sept 27, 2020 12:34:33 GMT
It was Encyclopedia of TV Science Fiction I was quoting, which mostly concentrated on live action programmes, but also had a section for animated shows. The writer Roger Foulton used the Radio & TV Times archives to establish airdates where possible. the animated section featured in the first edition of this book that was published back in 1990 which i remembered buying days after it was issued.but from the second edition onwards the animated section was not featured in future editions and was replaced by a expanded section of one-off plays. I've got the edition published in 1995, which still features the animation. I can remember a later edition that seemed to stretch the scope of the book to include live action fantasy shows.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 13:48:36 GMT
Does anyone who was around in the 80s remember seeing the BOTP episode 'Charioteers of Changu'? It's one of the four episodes not listed in the Radio Times, so if it was shown, it would have been as an insert, most likely on the Multicoloured Swap Shop - But there is a theory that this one might not have been broadcast at all, because there's one scene which features an old guy using ninja weaponry (see pictures) and the British censors were really down on that sort of thing in the 80s. (Witness how they cut the fight scene in Doctor Who's 'Talons of Weng-Chiang' for the VHS release.) The ninja weapons are only used in one brief scene in the episode though, so the Beeb could have cut the epsiode for broadcast... So does anyone remember seeing it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 16:34:49 GMT
A missing airdate has been found! I discovered clips on Youtube from the Swap Shop episode of 28th February 1981, which featured a Battle of the Planets episode. Most of the episode was cut from the footage, but I was still able to identify it as 'Secret Island' which happens to be one of the four BOTP episodes with no Radio Times listed broadcast. It fits right in with my guesswork, as well; I think the run of episodes on Swap-Shop in 1981 went like this - A Whale Joins G-Force NR 10/1/1981 The Ghostly Grasshopper 17/1/1981 Giant Gila Monster 24/1/1981 The Sky is Falling Part One 31/1/1981 The Sky is Falling Part Two 7/2/1981 Raid of the Red Scorpion 14/2/1981 Mammoth Shark Menace 21/2/1981 Secret Island NR 28/2/1981 Attack of the Alien Wasp 7/3/1981 The Great Brain Robbery 14/3/1981
Raid of the Space Octopus 21/3/1981 Charioteers of Changu NR 28/3/1981 And this fits perfectly as the 28th March episode was the last Swap Shop of that season! So, I would just like to take this opportunity to thank myself for all my hard work. youtu.be/wTbqIjIaNWM?t=125
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