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Post by stephen macpherson on Aug 25, 2020 21:52:38 GMT
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Post by tombeveridge on Aug 25, 2020 22:10:11 GMT
We've been here before, multiple times. I'll believe it when the cans are safely in the hands of the BBC. This guff about collectors fearing fans and therefore not being willing to hand over material is sheer nonsense. Even if a collector were to be identified (unmasked in our COVID days), it would be simple enough to say that the episode had just come into his hands through a recent private transaction. No charges of hoarding possible given that account.
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Post by stevegerald on Aug 25, 2020 22:19:39 GMT
Why would a random Blogspot site have any insight into any of this?
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Post by stevegerald on Aug 25, 2020 22:21:37 GMT
This guff about collectors fearing fans and therefore not being willing to hand over material is sheer nonsense. I mean, Phil Morris confirmed that one.
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Post by tom rogers on Aug 25, 2020 23:15:32 GMT
Click-bait.
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Post by andyeves on Aug 26, 2020 7:28:11 GMT
I came across this blog earlier this morning, but didn't think it merited any of my time other than a cursory browse. I'd guess it is someone putting their own spin on Phil's revelation, that there are 6 episodes in private hands which he expects will eventually work their way back to the BBC. So it is probably referring to these plus WOF3 - hence 7, even though WOF3 is likely to be one of the six.
But as I said, I didn't read the article in detail ...
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Post by mattg on Aug 26, 2020 7:41:52 GMT
From the link: “Morris has - somewhat confusingly...” Well that’ll make a nice change! Ah, it’s like circa 2014 - 2017 all over again... Regardless, given that Phil is now trying to disown these claims - even though he’s previously on video stating them, one suspects that he may have at long last learned the value of discretion. No bad thing really as, if there truly is any chance of wresting these alleged episodes from recalcitrant collectors then best it’s done quietly. (On a lighter, unrelated note, get a load of ‘Unknown’ in the comments below the article! Salty... )
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Post by mattg on Aug 26, 2020 7:55:44 GMT
This guff about collectors fearing fans and therefore not being willing to hand over material is sheer nonsense. I mean, Phil Morris confirmed that one. To be fair he may have confirmed that as an explanation he had been given but it’s likely just an excuse to obfuscate the real reason for their refusal to cooperate: insufficient financial incentive. Fear of intrusive fan scrutiny is of course a perfectly legitimate concern for collectors but as I say, the true impediment will almost certainly be cold hard cash, or lack thereof given that the Beeb isn’t in the habit of forking out...
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Post by RWels on Aug 26, 2020 10:28:17 GMT
I mean, Phil Morris confirmed that one. To be fair he may have confirmed that as an explanation he had been given but it’s likely just an excuse to obfuscate the real reason for their refusal to cooperate: insufficient financial incentive. Fear over intrusive fan scrutiny is of course a perfectly legitimate motive for collectors to remain unnameable but as I say, the true impediment will almost certainly be cold hard cash, or lack thereof given that the Beeb isn’t in the habit of forking out... That is your explanation, but it is not the only one. For example, I'm sure it took some cash to arrange a theft all the way in Nigeria. A handful of people - not representative of, or limited to film collectors - really do have the Gollum mentality.
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Post by scotttelfer on Aug 26, 2020 12:36:18 GMT
We've been here before, multiple times. I'll believe it when the cans are safely in the hands of the BBC. This guff about collectors fearing fans and therefore not being willing to hand over material is sheer nonsense. Even if a collector were to be identified (unmasked in our COVID days), it would be simple enough to say that the episode had just come into his hands through a recent private transaction. No charges of hoarding possible given that account. If you had the power, wealth and knowledge to hijack an international missing episode recovery, you would probably also be concerned about other fans in a similar position to you thinking "Hey, look at this evil scum of the earth monster, let's track them down, break down their doors and return these missing episodes to the BBC." I don't think throwing insults around is a good idea, but I can absolutely understand paranoia over this one. This is an incredibly emotive issue for some people, and all it takes is one bad person and the death threats start coming. It is a rather tragic statement on the state of our fan community, we're definitely better than some other groups out there but there are always going to be exceptions.
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Post by mattg on Aug 26, 2020 12:38:32 GMT
To be fair he may have confirmed that as an explanation he had been given but it’s likely just an excuse to obfuscate the real reason for their refusal to cooperate: insufficient financial incentive. Fear over intrusive fan scrutiny is of course a perfectly legitimate motive for collectors to remain unnameable but as I say, the true impediment will almost certainly be cold hard cash, or lack thereof given that the Beeb isn’t in the habit of forking out... That is your explanation, but it is not the only one. For example, I'm sure it took some cash to arrange a theft all the way in Nigeria. A handful of people - not representative of, or limited to film collectors - really do have the Gollum mentality. “That is your explanation” Ah, so infectiously cordial as always! Regardless, what proof do we have that the audacious theft of Web 3 actually took place beyond Phil’s word? Exactly. And as the subject matter of this very thread so deftly illustrates, Phil does like to ‘bob ‘n’ weave’ a bit when it comes to establishing the veracity of his adventures. Such uncertainty then inevitably sparks copious speculation amongst hopeful fans, which is precisely what I was engaging in...
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Post by RWels on Aug 26, 2020 17:17:50 GMT
That is your explanation, but it is not the only one. For example, I'm sure it took some cash to arrange a theft all the way in Nigeria. A handful of people - not representative of, or limited to film collectors - really do have the Gollum mentality. “That is your explanation” Ah, so infectiously cordial as always! Regardless, what proof do we have that the audacious theft of Web 3 actually took place beyond Phil’s word? Exactly. And as the subject matter of this very thread so deftly illustrates, Phil does like to ‘bob ‘n’ weave’ a bit when it comes to establishing the veracity of his adventures. Such uncertainty then inevitably sparks copious speculation amongst hopeful fans, which is precisely what I was engaging in... Morris did produce the rest of that serial, and another complete one. Has he ever lied about the past? You have zero proof of your last post, nor the one before that. (You don't have to act so stung; didn't you yourself already write " almost certainly"?)
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Aug 26, 2020 20:51:38 GMT
That is your explanation, but it is not the only one. For example, I'm sure it took some cash to arrange a theft all the way in Nigeria. A handful of people - not representative of, or limited to film collectors - really do have the Gollum mentality. “That is your explanation” Ah, so infectiously cordial as always! Regardless, what proof do we have that the audacious theft of Web 3 actually took place beyond Phil’s word? Exactly. And as the subject matter of this very thread so deftly illustrates, Phil does like to ‘bob ‘n’ weave’ a bit when it comes to establishing the veracity of his adventures. Such uncertainty then inevitably sparks copious speculationI really don't see the point of Philip Morris somehow trying to pretend that WOF 3 existed if in fact it had actually been destroyed if that's what you are trying to intimate.He's openly said that episodes had recently been destroyed upon arriving at some foreign stations so he wouldn't hesitate to state that WOF 3 had been one of those destroyed. No, he's still actively trying to re-claim it which is why nothing has been said about an animated release of Web in any of the media thus far.Fingers crossed...
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Post by stephenwit1 on Aug 26, 2020 21:44:09 GMT
I did have a dream last month that 7 Doctor Who Episodes returned.
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Post by stephenwit1 on Aug 26, 2020 22:45:56 GMT
Conversation Starter · antdsiJuhSlpy oc2nht7dre souarearhtd 9:41c AhgM · Had a dream they found 7 missing episodes of Doctor Who- July 27 9:41 am
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