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Post by anthonybartley on Oct 1, 2020 11:22:40 GMT
Why don't you report him then? Do you know the seller?
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Post by Richard Bignell on Oct 1, 2020 16:04:51 GMT
Given that the film stock used has been clearly identified as from the 1990s, shouldn't someone consider reporting this vendor to eBay? I'm assuming some users here have already messaged the seller to make them aware of this? Yes, you are assuming. For all you know, the seller could be selling the footage that's come into his possession in all innocence. He doesn't say that it was filmed in the 1960s, just that it looks like it. I'd be very wary about labelling it as a "scam" when we don't know the circumstances as to how he acquired the material and what he might or might not know about it. If it bothers you, perhaps you should be the one to message the seller.
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Post by anthonybartley on Oct 2, 2020 1:29:06 GMT
Seems to me that you're just trying to make yourselves believe there 'might' be something special in there and trying to ignore the obvious.
Anyway, believe what you will. I suspect the seller has already been messaged a hundred times by people enquiring, etc...
I thought it was conclusive that the film stock was from the 1990s. That isn't an assumption, surely?
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Post by Richard Bignell on Oct 2, 2020 8:50:25 GMT
I thought it was conclusive that the film stock was from the 1990s. That isn't an assumption, surely? No, because it's got a KeyKode on the side of the film, something tha Kodak didn't introduce until the 1990s. If you look back, I was the one who pointed that out when the first reel of footage appeared on eBay, so those who are aware of that fact aren't ignoring the "obvious". The film stock is from the 1990s onwards. But that's only going to apply to a very limited number of people that frequent here, Gallifrey Base or Roobarbs and who might have read the posts concerned. However, using your own term, you can't make the assumption that the seller is aware of that. Saying that other people must have made him aware, that he knows full well that it isn't genuine 1960s material and that the seller is simply perpertrating a scam is simply guesswork on your part. He might well be aware of it, he might know full well that the film he's selling doesn't come from the 1960s, but as we don't know that for certain. That's why it's not possible to say that the person is straightforwardly scamming others.
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Post by anthonybartley on Oct 2, 2020 23:08:00 GMT
So, we've got Kodak film stock from the 1990s but we also have recordings recorded in front of an old 1960s television set.
I dunno, I'm just weighing it up here. Either this guy hasn't heard of the internet (or only in passing), or he's an elderly gent with limited capacities, or he's living on an island and a tribesman has thrust this case of old reels of film in front of him and shouted "Sell!!!"
I'm just saying this smacks of an elaborate hoax to me. Possibly started with good intentions but right now... I think they've spotted a real money spinner. Or, as they say in the trade, now he's chancing it.
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Post by brianfretwell on Oct 3, 2020 8:29:18 GMT
In theory this could be from an original 1960's home filming of a TV but printed into new stock with reversal processing. In the early 1970's spares for 16mm B&H 641 projectors were being advertised as for possible use as a contact printerI doubt if the seller here would be competent enough to actually manage that though.
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Post by stevegerald on Oct 3, 2020 11:02:26 GMT
I doubt if the seller here would be competent enough to actually manage that though. I mean, the original owner of these could have though.
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Post by Alistair Gordon on Oct 4, 2020 7:33:49 GMT
Why don't you report him then? Do you know the seller? No.
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Post by andyeves on Oct 10, 2020 7:44:04 GMT
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Post by andyeves on Oct 10, 2020 7:48:24 GMT
I'd be highly surprised if the seller has no idea whether any are from missing episodes, as they would surely be aware that they would command a high price if so.
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Post by andyeves on Oct 13, 2020 5:03:25 GMT
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Richard Develyn
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Living in hope that more missing episodes will come back to us.
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Post by Richard Develyn on Oct 13, 2020 11:30:03 GMT
I don't quite get this, I have to say. Why would anyone telecine existing episodes?
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Post by andyeves on Oct 13, 2020 11:59:53 GMT
I don't quite get this, I have to say. Why would anyone telecine existing episodes? Presumably in the hope of making a fast buck, that some will accept these to be bona fide 1960s off-screen footage and consider them to be highly collectable items.
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Post by John Green on Oct 13, 2020 19:34:34 GMT
Is this new?
"All negatives looks to be filmed off tv screen around 1960's?".
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Post by Richard Bignell on Oct 13, 2020 20:27:45 GMT
Is this new? "All negatives looks to be filmed off tv screen around 1960's?". No. He's been saying that since the first auction.
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