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Post by petercheck on Aug 7, 2020 23:02:35 GMT
The black and white performance of 'Hole In My Shoe' is not a promo video, it's from a Belgian TV show.
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Post by Mike Goldwater on Aug 8, 2020 0:31:56 GMT
Yes thanks for correcting that, I've finally finished my database for 1960's 'Music Videos' which I will be uploading to Google Drive soon. I have categorized the film clips into various categories ranging from Promos, Newsreels, TV (Film) Inserts, TV Specials and Scopiotone/ Cinebox. Since a good deal of music videos from the 1960's were not official promo clips, for instance a good deal of bands/ artists did specially filmed inserts for TV Shows, I have include that in the database. From a historical point of view this is quite interesting as the demand for official promo films/ music videos grew from the need of filming specially shot film inserts for various TV shows as a neccesity for bands/ artists being unable to appear live on the show. From the early 70's onwards, the number of these special film inserts decreases as the rate of music videos increases.
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Post by richardwoods on Aug 8, 2020 5:50:29 GMT
I do have some TV programmes from America in the Sixties, on colour VT, and it's noticeable sometimes how they show film of a very poor quality that's only a couple of years old. The video still looks wonderful, so it's clear the film looked like that at the time. A good example I can think of is the CBS coverage of the Apollo fire in 1967, if you find that online, it demonstrates my point perfectly. I fully agree. When The Ed Sullivan Show showed the promotional films for The Beatles "Two of Us" and "Let It Be" in 1970, the films looked so dirty, while the rest of the broadcast is pristine. From memory, particularly with early colour, I believe that early NSTC to PAL & PAL to NSTC conversion for video recordings also left smeary washed out pictures at the time, but I could be mistaken.
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Post by Mike Goldwater on Aug 9, 2020 20:16:01 GMT
Here's a rarity from 1966, featuring the Hootenanny Singers performing 'Baby, Those Are The Rules', among the members features a young pre Abba, Björn Ulvaeus.
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Post by ajsmith on Aug 9, 2020 21:52:59 GMT
I recall seeing an excerpt of a 3rd more ‘literal’ video clip for ‘Hole In My Shoe’ in a BBC4 Stevie Winwood doc some years back but I’ve never seen it in full and I’m beginning to think I imagined it. From what I recall it was black and white featured the band (I think) and the visuals illustrated the lyric more literally than the other two promos posted on this thread. That ring a bell for anyone?
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Post by ajsmith on Aug 10, 2020 11:24:16 GMT
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Post by Mike Goldwater on Aug 12, 2020 21:28:41 GMT
I have completed my database for 1960's Music Videos: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fY8rcrCZ3TlWlR4r0T2xQBUbiepIcjK59CgO41bKev4/edit?usp=sharing, it's a comprehensive census of over 500 song titles throughout the course of the decade. I have listed the titles in order of release date, although sometimes these records can be quite sketchy so occasionally I've had to compromise. Each song has been classified under the following headings Release Date, Title, Band/ Artist, Format, Type , Status and Notes, here's a bit more detail on the categories: Release Date: The date when the single, album or EP track was released. If a full date can't be found, then it reverts to the fist day of the month. Title: The song title, I endeavour to include a clickable hyperlink to most titles, so you can view a copy of the clip. Band/ Artist: The band or solo artist who recorded this track/ occasionally it could be a colloboration between multiple artists. Format: The type of media the promo was filmed with, this could include B&W/ Colour Film or B&W/ Colour VT. Type: This could range from official promo, TV Insert (promo produced for a television show), Newsreel clip, TV Special (multiple promos) etc. Status: The current survival status, this could range from Exist, Partial, Unknown or Missing. Notes: Additional information, could include when it was filmed, whether it was unreleased, or solely an album or EP track. I will be making more ammendments in the near future when I obtain more information from further sources, it is my hope to make it a valuable resource for people looking for archive music video clips which otherwise would be difficult to search for in general searches. It is also my hope that through this database, there will be more of a push to track down better quality prints of some of these clips which currently survive in poor quality, and eventually from there even track down missing material.
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Post by petercheck on Aug 12, 2020 22:02:04 GMT
That colour film of Gene Pitney miming to '24 Hours From Tulsa' on a bus (if this is the one you're referring too) is from 'The Dave Cash Radio Show' in 1972, rebroadcast elsewhere as 'Music Unlimited' in later years.
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Post by Mike Goldwater on Aug 13, 2020 9:03:04 GMT
The glaring sign must be in Pitney's hair, he kept it relatively short through most of the 60's, it was hard to pin any details on this film clip. I have since removed it from the database since nine years is far too long, as anything three years or over I won't count as it could be considered an old tune; unless there is concrete evidence that the song was re-released as a single years later, so a song like 'Space Oddity' by David Bowie would be listed three times, firstly in 1969 with the original unreleased promo clip, then in 1973 following it's re-release and finally in 1980 when it was re-recorded and featured as a B-Side. Bowie filmed a music video for the remake using some of the same sets as the 'Ashes to Ashes' video which was in production at the time.
Moreover, a number of directors who would become promiment names in the music video business in the years to come, started off in the Sixties. The likes of Michael Lindsay-Hogg, Peter Whitehead and Piers Bedford all would make their mark through the establishment of the music video as an art form as well as a useful marketing tool. Here's an early one from Piers Bedford from 1968, 'I Can Show You' by Rupert's People; surely an underatted song that borrows heavily from the Small Faces.
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Post by garystevens on Aug 13, 2020 15:27:20 GMT
A lot of the promo's filmed for Top of the Pops towards the end of the 60's and beginning of the 70s were filmed by Eyemark Films, this was a company ran by Mark Edwards who was a manager of several 1960's pop bands as well as a film maker.
Eric Francis, a member of a band called The Barrier used to help Mark Edwards film a lot of pop promo's back in the day. At one point they were filming 50% of the films you would see on Top of the Pops when the acts were too busy or couldn't be bothered to turn up. Most of the stuff they shot made it on to British TV. Some of the films they shot included The Bee Gees, Dave Dee, Barry Ryan, Esther and Abi Ofarim to name but a few.
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Post by Mike Goldwater on Aug 13, 2020 18:23:38 GMT
I have recently come across this channel on Youtube that posts custom edited music videos based on songs from the 60's and 70's. Most of these fake music videos are just newsreel clips, however a small selection have been culled from genuine promo films of the time, which the user has either re-edited or replaced the original track with another music track. I was able to identify a few of these promos but on the whole, most of these 'mute' and sometimes re-edited prints confuse me, if someone could help identify these clips then I'd be happy to PM a list that I have compiled. To give a clearer idea, here are two videos from some well known groups of the time.
The Equals (c.1969) - Colour Film
This clip was originally uploaded, then deleted by the original poster; presumably due to the time-code being present. Recently someone re-uploaded it, a generation down but glancing through the lossiness I believe it could be the same Junkyard location they used for the 'Viva Bobby Joe' promo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=975O5EA3t7c). It could be an alternate promo of the same song, produced for the British market, since it contains no miming unlike the latter version.
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich (c.1966) - B&W Film
This promo clip features the band performing a song in a grand house, whilst entertaining a Maid as she attempts to do her chores. Judging by their outfits, it was very likely to be done in 1966 as the band members are wearing their patch-work monochrome shirts which they wore in a number of their TV performances at the time, check out the clips from Blue Peter and Beat Club from this period, they wear similar clothing. They also filmed a number of promo films for various TV shows during that year, such as 'Hold Tight' and 'Save Me' for example. The trouble is which music track matches this particular film clip?
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Post by Paul Watkins on Aug 14, 2020 10:59:04 GMT
The promo is Hideaway.
Here's the original
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Post by Peter Stirling on Aug 14, 2020 11:59:52 GMT
A couple you might have missed? Eden Kane's image swaggering around a Scopitone or Cinebox jukebox (although I think De Lane Lea worked for Cinebox?)
Dreams do come true -Heinz Scopitone.The irony of this is, it shows a recording studio when it was probably recorded in Joe Meek's bathroom LOL
The lovely..Arrival -Friends promo (possibly shot in 69) think it took a while to break into the charts in 70
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Post by Kev Hunter on Aug 14, 2020 15:03:07 GMT
The glaring sign must be in Pitney's hair, he kept it relatively short through most of the 60's, it was hard to pin any details on this film clip. I have since removed it from the database since nine years is far too long, as anything three years or over I won't count as it could be considered an old tune; unless there is concrete evidence that the song was re-released as a single years later, so a song like 'Space Oddity' by David Bowie would be listed three times, firstly in 1969 with the original unreleased promo clip, then in 1973 following it's re-release and finally in 1980 when it was re-recorded and featured as a B-Side. Bowie filmed a music video for the remake using some of the same sets as the 'Ashes to Ashes' video which was in production at the time. Moreover, a number of directors who would become promiment names in the music video business in the years to come, started off in the Sixties. The likes of Michael Lindsay-Hogg, Peter Whitehead and Piers Bedford all would make their mark through the establishment of the music video as an art form as well as a useful marketing tool. Here's an early one from Piers Bedford from 1968, 'I Can Show You' by Rupert's People; surely an underatted song that borrows heavily from the Small Faces. Great piece of film of this band! I'd quite forgotten that it was fairly commonplace in those days for men to wear wigs if they were tonsorially challenged (there's one member of Rupert's People who seems to be sporting three different syrups at once); Deep Purple's original bass player Nick Simper used to look as if he was wearing a busby or bearskin although it's not so obvious in this early promo film (below); however, this performance from Playboy After Dark (with inset promo) shows him with something atop his head that would have made many a guardsman envious!
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Post by Mike Goldwater on Aug 14, 2020 20:17:46 GMT
Thanks for the video links, the "Friends" promo may have been filmed in the closing weeks of 1969, the single was released on the 28th November that year, so it plausible looking at the exterior shots at the beginning of the video which suggests late Autumn, near the single's release date; making it one of the last music promos filmed in the UK during the 60's. There may be other contenders to the title, indeed Karen Young did a filmed insert for her song "Nobody's Child": www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRm1I1xEnl8, which was broadcast in January 1970, since the promo was shot outdoors in the middle of Winter, it's quite possible it may have been shot the previous month. I have also found another clip on the BFI Youtube page. It features a young Shane Fenton with his band The Fentones performing "Cindy's Birthday" in 1962, a decade later Fenton would later find further fame as Alvin Stardust, so this clip is quite a treat to see him in his pre Glam rock blonde hair days. Another promo clip I've found is a filmed insert for "Only One Woman" (1968) by The Marbles, which was filmed for Austrian tv station ORF. A few weeks later, the Bee Gees also did a filmed insert for "I've Gotta Get a Message To You" for the same TV show, which features similar overlayed animated graphics by the same artist: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fazd4NcFXBQ. Inadvertedly this promo may have provided the inspiration for the 'Idea' TV special which was filmed not long after this clip was produced.
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