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Post by ajsmith on Sept 7, 2020 11:27:30 GMT
Got it exacly on my birthday on Sat. Haven't had time to even begin to properly ingest it: what a totally primo high end artifact, STACKED with high quality colour images. Must've been a true labour of love. First thing I went to of course was the episode guide: how amazing to finally have a guide to who appeared and when. This book will take months to properly process!
Now roll on the DVDs!
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Post by petercheck on Sept 8, 2020 9:30:45 GMT
Are these definitely planned, or is this just wishful thinking by collectors like ourselves? Would've made perfect sense to release them to coincide with the book (not Andy Neill's fault of course). Really enjoying the book! I hope any "complete" DVDs include this:
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Post by ajsmith on Sept 8, 2020 9:41:58 GMT
This may be well known to some on this forum, but it was interesting to find out exactly why what survives survives:
*the complete 63/64 shows were telerecorded by Elkan Allan for potential overseas sales (hence why all 3 Beatles shows were kept)
*65/66 extracts were taped by Michael Lindsay Hogg to preserve some of his own work
*Motown and Redding specials were kept contractually
Apparently all this material was around since Dave Clark bought it up in the early 70s, which means the Walker Bros clip as reused on Beat Club had been the only newly discovered footage since then that wasn’t part of the Associated Redifusdion RSG holdings as they were soon after the show ended. Makes me wonder if there are any other potential avenues for future finds or if the fact that most of the material seems to have been disposed of so soon after broadcast (and little evidence of overseas sales other than the Beat Club one off) that that’s likely to be all there is.
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Post by petercheck on Sept 8, 2020 21:02:08 GMT
I'm still digesting this great book, but here's my brief review (also posted on Amazon):
Absolutely Smashing!
My favourite era in music is undoubtedly 1963-1966, and no other music TV show encapsulated that incredible creative and fast-changing period better than 'Ready, Steady, Go!' ('Top of The Pops' may have had the ratings and the longevity, but any vaguely "cool" music TV show since such as 'The Tube', 'The Word' and 'T.F.I. Friday' owe RSG a HUGE debt).
Andy Neill is up there with Keith Badman, Spencer Leigh and Alan Clayson as one of the foremost experts on all things Sixties, and was the perfect candidate to write this brilliant book. With over 100 all-star interviews, a detailed chronological history, a full episode guide and many, many, MANY rare photos and memorabilia, this really sets a new standard for books of this type. As Cathy McGowan would've said, it's "Absolutely Smashing!".
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Post by ajsmith on Sept 14, 2020 8:52:53 GMT
It's been fascinating to read the episode guide and see the additional performances from the existing shows that weren't listed on the previous thread, presumably cos they were never used in any of the comps. AFAICT, these are all the existing performances listed in the book that weren't mentioned on the documentary thread:
1st May 1964
Millie 'My Boy Lollipop' Freddie and The Dreamers 'I Love You Baby'
28th August 1964
Dusty Springfield 'All Cried Out' The Mojos: 'Seven Daffodils' Peter Jay and the Jaywalkers 'Where Did Our Love Go?' Billie Davis 'Watcha Gonna Do?' Gerry and the Pacemakers: 'It's Just Because'
6th November 1964
Johnny Tillotson 'She Understands Me' Eden Kane 'Hanging Around'
27th November 1964
The Dakotas 'Oyeh'
11th December 1964
Kenny Lynch 'My Own Two Feet' John L Watson and the Hummelflugs: 'Lookin For Love'
2nd July 1965
Manfred Mann 'Five Long Years' and seemingly NOT "Have You Ever Been Mistreated" as reported before. Nina Simone 'Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood'
25th Feb 1966
Walker Brothers 'Everything's Gonnas Be Alright'
Of course I'll 100 per cent believe these when/if I ever see them, but I'm pretty sure Andy Neil will know what's what. I'm particularly gratified to see there's apparently another clip of Billie Davis doing 'Watcha Gonna Do' in there, surely one of the great non hit records of the decade and one I only discovered via Peter Checkfield's book a few years ago. The colour Pop Gear clip is fantastic but it's also the only known pre 1968 footage of her so would be great to have one more, and what a song!
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Post by petercheck on Sept 14, 2020 10:01:52 GMT
Actually, the Freddie and The Dreamers clip is well known (I've mentioned it in previous threads as well as 'Channelling The Beat!', and it was even on one of those 80s VHS compilations):
The Kenny Lynch song also circulates:
The Walker Brothers clip is another one preserved by 'Beat Club' (also mentioned in CTB):
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Post by ajsmith on Sept 14, 2020 10:11:50 GMT
Thanks for the corrections Peter. I just noticed Millie is on Youtube too:
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Post by petercheck on Sept 14, 2020 10:23:41 GMT
Thanks for the corrections Peter. I just noticed Millie is on Youtube too: That's actually from the 'Around The Beatles' TV special (it was one of those songs that Dave Clark edited in to the re-broadcasts, confusing collectors forever!).
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Post by ajsmith on Sept 14, 2020 10:38:13 GMT
Thanks for the corrections Peter. I just noticed Millie is on Youtube too: That's actually from the 'Around The Beatles' TV special (it was one of those songs that Dave Clark edited in to the re-broadcasts, confusing collectors forever!). Thanks for the clarification (again!) Peter and sorry for spreading old disinformation.. so there's a genuine non circulating RSG! Millie performance from 1/5/64 in additon to this ersatz one from Around The Beatles used in the repeats?
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Post by Peter Stirling on Sept 14, 2020 10:46:53 GMT
This may be well known to some on this forum, but it was interesting to find out exactly why what survives survives: *the complete 63/64 shows were telerecorded by Elkan Allan for potential overseas sales (hence why all 3 Beatles shows were kept) *65/66 extracts were taped by Michael Lindsay Hogg to preserve some of his own work *Motown and Redding specials were kept contractually Apparently all this material was around since Dave Clark bought it up in the early 70s, which means the Walker Bros clip as reused on Beat Club had been the only newly discovered footage since then that wasn’t part of the Associated Redifusdion RSG holdings as they were soon after the show ended. Makes me wonder if there are any other potential avenues for future finds or if the fact that most of the material seems to have been disposed of so soon after broadcast (and little evidence of overseas sales other than the Beat Club one off) that that’s likely to be all there is. Well another possibility is the fact that RSG was not transmitted at the same time in some regions...some regions showed it late night over the following weekend..and at that time the 'networking' system was not always up to scratch and some viewers in some regions outside London had complained about the picture quality of the London Palladium Show..it was also an expensive business as the Post Office owned the lines. So the show may have been physically sent (bicycling the print they use to call it)to these other regions in which after transmission nobody was bothered about it and left in a cupboard somewhere.....just a whimsical thought there.
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Post by petercheck on Sept 14, 2020 11:08:05 GMT
so there's a genuine non circulating RSG! Millie performance from 1/5/64 in additon to this ersatz one from Around The Beatles used in the repeats? Actually, I'm not convinced there is! Millie's performance of 'My Boy Lollipop' was also edited into the 80s rebroadcasts (the other song you posted was 'Tom Hark'), and if Dave Clark had a genuine RSG performance then why would he do that? See below the rebroadcast clip (and this is 100% definitely from 'Around The Beatles' - I've just checked my DVD of the show!):
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Post by petercheck on Sept 14, 2020 11:20:16 GMT
I've just emailed Andy Neill for clarification re: Millie, sending him a link to this thread!
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Post by petercheck on Sept 14, 2020 11:51:04 GMT
Just got a nice reply from Andy! He kindly gave me permission to repost his message (here's the relevant part):
As to your query, you have a good point. Checking my notes from weekly Record Retailer, which detailed the songs broadcast on RSG! the previous week for PRS info, Millie ‘My Boy Lollipop’ is listed for that show. Now whether it was the background to a dance or an interview I can’t confirm but you’ll note that Cilla Black and PJ Proby, fellow guests with Millie on Around The Beatles, all mention ATB to be shown on Rediffusion the following Wednesday. The only other conclusion to draw is that Millie didn’t appear in the studio and the record was just background to a dance sequence. Unfortunately this is one of the three (out of the nine) surviving complete shows that I haven’t been able to view in full for reasons I won’t go into here but you can draw your own conclusions! Until we can see it uncut, this is where we’re left.
P.S. There is a possibility not all of this 1.5.64 episode was tele-recorded in full – hence why Clark was missing the Millie performance – but I doubt this.
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Post by robertreinstein on Sept 14, 2020 13:24:43 GMT
I haven't gotten the book yet, since I'm geographically challenged (U.S.) but there's a few more performances that are held by BMG that had not been previously re-released or re-shown (to my knowledge):
Millicent Martin "Suspicion" The Beach Boys "Dance Dance Dance" Bobby Shafto "She's My Girl" Gerry/Pacemakers "It's Just Because" Kingsize Taylor and the Dominos "Stupidity" John L Watson and the Hummelflugs "Lookin' For Love" Cliff/Shadows "Please Dont Tease" DC5 "Any Way You Want It" Hollies "Rockin Robin". Walker Brothers "Sun Ain't Gonna Shine"
Once I read the book, I'll see if there's any more info I can add.
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Post by petercheck on Sept 14, 2020 13:38:07 GMT
I haven't gotten the book yet, since I'm geographically challenged (U.S.) but there's a few more performances that are held by BMG that had not been previously re-released or re-shown (to my knowledge): Millicent Martin "Suspicion" The Beach Boys "Dance Dance Dance" Bobby Shafto "She's My Girl" Gerry/Pacemakers "It's Just Because" Kingsize Taylor and the Dominos "Stupidity" John L Watson and the Hummelflugs "Lookin' For Love" Cliff/Shadows "Please Dont Tease" DC5 "Any Way You Want It" Hollies "Rockin Robin". Walker Brothers "Sun Ain't Gonna Shine" Once I read the book, I'll see if there's any more info I can add. Cliff Richard and The Shadows never appeared on RSG (and even if they had, it is unlikely they'd perform a 1960 single). This particular song (performed live on 'The Cliff Richard Show', 30th July 1960) was inserted into the 80s/90s reruns though, hence the probable confusion. I also doubt very much that any DC5 appearances survive, which is why DC inserted clips of his band from other shows (mostly 'The Ed Sullivan Show') into the reruns. Not convinced any The Hollies clips survive either, though you're probably right about most the others.
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