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Post by Greg H on Jul 19, 2006 12:51:52 GMT
Star wars holiday special is LEGEND!!!! well legendarily abysmal anyhow  |
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Post by LanceM on Jul 19, 2006 20:37:27 GMT
Legendary, i guess if you say it is. I have not seen that show for a while now. But, I still think that this is a valid avenue of research for locating old domestic recordings of that era. And since documentation on the net can be located, pertaining to players being given to schools. As I stated previously, teachers or employees could of borrowed the recorders and recorded some of thier favorite TV programs. Or recorded programs off TV that pertained to thier classwork ( Historical programes, maybe some historical who episodes ) . Start asking around for permission, seems like a good avenue to persue further. I have currently been persuing this avenue for a time. Good Luck All.
Lance.
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Post by Q on Jul 19, 2006 21:26:33 GMT
Sounds like a huge waste of time to me....
Why would a school have taped Dr. Who?? It's not exactly educational...
Think about it -- how much missing material has been located from domestic off-air recordings of any sort -- not a whole lot...
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Post by nicholas cook on Jul 19, 2006 21:41:49 GMT
my art deparmeny skipped a 16mm projector and a box of film prints in 2002
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Post by Martin Dunne on Jul 20, 2006 3:45:22 GMT
We know one school's AV department would tape Troughton episodes each week, only to record over them with the next week's episode. And another anecdotal example where the fan staff even transferred episodes onto a cheaper generation of tapes only to ultimatly lose them. There's a member of this forum who was shown now-missing Doctor Who episodes at school on rain days.
As for domestic recordings we have colour Pertwees, a redundant Space Pirates 2 and recovered off air film clips.
Why do you ask?
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Post by Bobby Clark (synthpopalooza) on Jul 20, 2006 4:17:14 GMT
Sounds like a huge waste of time to me.... Why would a school have taped Dr. Who?? It's not exactly educational... Think about it -- how much missing material has been located from domestic off-air recordings of any sort -- not a whole lot... Actually, early 60's Doctor Who was VERY deucational, and intentionally designed that way by the show's creator, Sydney Newman. As some examples, there is the missing serial Marco Polo, which is a very educational look at the history and the world of Marco Polo, and his famous journey into China. Other historicals of the time ("The Crusade", "The Reign of Terror", "The Myth Makers", "The Massacre") are all just as equally educational. As for domestic off-air recordings: If it weren't for some such recordings made by the producers of Steptoe and Son, it's likely we'd never see much of that series again. Instead, thanks to these recordings, the entire series exists now. Also keep in mind, the colour restorations of "Terror of the Autons", "The Silurians", "The Daemons" and portions of "The Ambassadors of Death" were made possible by off-air TV recordings made in America back in the 1970's. It is entirely possible that videotape recordings exist of 60's Doctor Who. What's going to be hard is tracking these down, but I do think the public schools are a good place to start. |
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Post by LanceM on Jul 20, 2006 6:46:46 GMT
Where do you think would be a good place to start synth ?
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jul 20, 2006 9:59:53 GMT
It is entirely possible that videotape recordings exist of 60's Doctor Who. I think it's very *very* unlikely that any still exist. The number that would have been made in the first place would have been minute and coupled with the fact that the image on early "domestic" videotape can degrade very badly (and you only have to see raw condition of many of the BBC's official Shibaden tapes from the late 70s and early 80s as proof of that), the chances of anything surviving would be tiny to say the least. And as for them surviving in schools, I think that's going to be pretty much a non starter. Richard |
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Post by Bobby Clark (synthpopalooza) on Jul 20, 2006 14:38:54 GMT
I think perhaps the best way to go about it would be to ask people that you know, who may have went to school during the 70's, if their school had a video tape recorder, and what was played. Once you've got a list of schools, it might do to contact them and see if they still have their tape archive or if not, find out what happened to the tapes. You never know, someone might have kept something.
Richard is right, it is unlikely that such material will still exist after 30 years, but it's not impossible. This is an avenue worth exploring on the off-chance somebody kept something!
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Post by Greg H on Jul 21, 2006 10:31:01 GMT
This always seems to be a somewhat contentious topic, but there IS always a chance and with early domestic recordings it is a race against time, not a waste of time There is every chance that something amazing is waiting to be recovered like Hancock or who, people should not be discouraged from exploring every possible avenue of research! Fingers crossed. |
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Post by LanceM on Jul 26, 2006 18:48:44 GMT
Has anyone had any progress with this line of research. Did NZ ever give reel to reel material to schools or universities, or Australia ? I was just currious.
Lance.
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Post by Steve Bennett on Aug 3, 2006 18:21:17 GMT
My primary and secondary schools were both built in the 60s and didn't have cellars or endless storage space. My primary school had an N1500 and tapes which got junked in the early 90s, and my secondary school was still using a Shibaden in 1982, but that (and its tapes) got junked a couple of years later.
Many schools disposed of their old recordings when the curriculum changed in the late 80s. But there could still be some lurking around. Universities could also be a good bet, because many of them had enough money to use U-Matic from the late 60s/early 70s, and U-Matic is still (just about) a viable format.
I also know that a couple of years ago, Leeds University discovered a large stock of N1500 tapes in storage which it got transferred by an outside company. It turned out that they were mostly off-air recordings of news and current affairs programmes from 1974-75.
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Post by Alan Hayes on Aug 6, 2006 17:08:34 GMT
I've been working at a secondary school in East London since 1985, and we did have Sony CV-2100 recorders and a roomful of tapes, most of which were completely unplayable due to poor storage. However, on the pretext of cleaning up the stockroom, I went through all these tapes, and did find a few oddities (a few episodes of "Crown Court" and a two-part "Batman" (Black Widow) - all B/W of course). Nothing terribly interesting, and very little that might be considered rare or exciting, but I did manage to turn up a BBC Schools version of "A Taste of Honey" that was missing from the BBC Archives. I returned this to the archive, where I assume it still resides.
The tapes and all the recorders have long since been disposed of.
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Post by LanceM on Aug 10, 2006 20:49:38 GMT
Has anyone checked up on this lead ? Contacted any schools about old video collections ? I was just currious.
Lance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2006 17:11:32 GMT
I also know that a couple of years ago, Leeds University discovered a large stock of N1500 tapes in storage which it got transferred by an outside company. It turned out that they were mostly off-air recordings of news and current affairs programmes from 1974-75. Well, that sounds like something of interest then. Most news broadcasts from the '70s are missing! Do the BBC / ITV know about this? |
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