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Post by jamesellis on Jan 19, 2021 17:25:13 GMT
Good point, also I'm often wondered if WoF3 was snaffled by a collector why not take the rest ? 11 ME's there, Phil definitely hinted at there being more in Nigeria, I'm buoyed by the fact Dave Hoskin's Chasing Shadows book has never been published, so there's obviously stuff going on behind the scenes, Presumably because the station manager figured that if he snaffled just one or two of the tapes that Phil had identified for safekeeping then he may not notice, whereas if he took the whole lot then Phil would likely twig ... Has Phil "definitely hinted at there being more in Nigeria"? Please elaborate ... and indeed on why you believe there is "obviously stuff going on behind the scenes"? Thanks Andy, Dave Hoskin stated on his Twitter feed book was completed but a lot "had changed" since he started it, I took that to mean new facts had emerged etc. I don't know anymore I'm afraid & Dave Hoskin is keeping close counsel, to me that sounds like a developing situation,
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Post by jamesellis on Jan 19, 2021 17:27:59 GMT
Good point, also I'm often wondered if WoF3 was snaffled by a collector why not take the rest ? 11 ME's there, Phil definitely hinted at there being more in Nigeria, I'm buoyed by the fact Dave Hoskin's Chasing Shadows book has never been published, so there's obviously stuff going on behind the scenes, [/quote] Are you referring to the book that said in the blurb "the story of looking for treasure and what happens when you find it ( or words to that effect) because I've been wondering for years what happened with that and like you buoyed by the by the fact it's never been published. I live by the maxim no news is good news. As long as there's mystery and questions unanswered there is hope. [/quote] Nathan yes that one, its finished...... or is it ?
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Post by Timothy Austin on Jan 20, 2021 19:51:50 GMT
Ideally it would obviously been ideal if it had been episode 1 of 'The Web of Fear' that went missing instead of episode 3. But I find episode 3 to be the weakest episode of the six anyway. It's most remarkable moment (in hindsight) is the full introduction of Lethbridge Stewart. Yet, it's not actually until part 4 that we see his trust and belief in the Doctor. That's the moment where Lethbridge Stewart and the Doctor first REALLY bond...and THAT exists. I'm completely fine having the missing episode 3 animated, it may even improve my opinion on it?
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jan 21, 2021 19:42:14 GMT
Ideally it would obviously been ideal if it had been episode 1 of 'The Web of Fear' that went missing instead of episode 3. But I find episode 3 to be the weakest episode of the six anyway. It's most remarkable moment (in hindsight) is the full introduction of Lethbridge Stewart. Yet, it's not actually until part 4 that we see his trust and belief in the Doctor. That's the moment where Lethbridge Stewart and the Doctor first REALLY bond...and THAT exists. I'm completely fine having the missing episode 3 animated, it may even improve my opinion on it? My opinion also Timothy.Serials where one or more episodes are animated keeps them fresh and interesting.A case in point in The Reign of Terror,a dry historical which is enhanced by the animation of it's missing episodes even though they weren't entirely successful.The same allure applies to Monnbase,Tenth Planet and The Invasion.The only one that fails is the Ice Warriors as the story itself is slow.But yes,looking at it now,Web will be a great release!
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Post by Timothy Austin on Jan 21, 2021 20:56:56 GMT
We are in complete agreement Cheema. The first animation (The Invasion) worked extremely well. The Invasion is a long 8 part story, and I felt having episodes 1 and 4 animated actually made the overall story very enjoyable. I still consider The Moonbase has the best animation. It still looks great alongside the two existing episodes.
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Post by Timothy Austin on Jan 22, 2021 16:54:59 GMT
So if six missing episodes are held by private collectors, which six would you most like them to be? Of course any missing episode returned would be wonderful! But if I was to choose which six episodes I'd most want to see returned, I would choose episode 7 of 'Marco Polo', episode 12 of 'The Daleks Master Plan', episode 4 of 'The Tenth Planet', episode 1 of 'The Power of the Daleks , episode 7 of 'The Evil of the Daleks' and episode 6 of 'Fury from the Deep'.
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Post by Luke Sherlaw on Jan 22, 2021 17:39:32 GMT
All six episodes of Power of the Daleks or Fury from the deep.
In terms of a more 'realistic' (for want of a better word) pick n mix from various serials i'd go with: Power 1, Power 6, Fury 6, Masterplan 12, Evil 7, Tenth planet 4 (was going to pick Massacre 4 but went with this to get Hartnell's last back and to complete the story).
In actuality, the episodes are probably incredibly random ones like Myth Makers 3, Savages 2, or Highlanders 3. Ones with no rhyme or reason behind why they survived nor the most commonly stated ones that everyone wants back.
I think most folks on here can agree that Power 1 is the ultimate in terms of missing Dr Who though
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Post by richardwoods on Jan 22, 2021 17:56:57 GMT
The 5 missing episodes of The Abominable Snowmen & Web 3 would do me nicely thank you. Mind you, I would very much like to see The Savages again as it’s my first (very vague) Who memory.
Power doesn’t make my cut. It was much better than I remember after seeing the animation but IMHO suffered from new Doctor syndrome, mainly the usual “odd” acting as the Doctors personality settles in, having said that it stands clearly above all the later regeneration stories. I still can’t think about Robot without shuddering.
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Post by Timothy Austin on Jan 22, 2021 19:16:01 GMT
All six episodes of Power of the Daleks or Fury from the deep. In terms of a more 'realistic' (for want of a better word) pick n mix from various serials i'd go with: Power 1, Power 6, Fury 6, Masterplan 12, Evil 7, Tenth planet 4 (was going to pick Massacre 4 but went with this to get Hartnell's last back and to complete the story). In actuality, the episodes are probably incredibly random ones like Myth Makers 3, Savages 2, or Highlanders 3. Ones with no rhyme or reason behind why they survived nor the most commonly stated ones that everyone wants back. I think most folks on here can agree that Power 1 is the ultimate in terms of missing Dr Who though Like back in 2011 when two episodes were returned (Galaxy 4 part 3 and The Underwater Menace' part 2), both episodes arguably not high up on any ones missing episode wishlists. So judging by that criteria then maybe a couple of episodes of 'The Smugglers' , one episode of 'The Savages', another episode of 'The Underwater Menace' and another one for 'Galaxy 4, and maybe episode 1 of 'The Invasion'.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 22, 2021 21:39:21 GMT
I’ve said it before, they’re like Krynoid pods - they travel in pairs 👍
There have been quite a few double recoveries, mostly iirc from a pile that came back from Australia so I’d perm any from that.
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Post by mattplace on Jan 22, 2021 22:52:03 GMT
For Me. Evil of the Daleks 1 and 7 The Massacre ep4 Power 1 Tenth Planet 4 Masterplan 12
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Post by robrudderham on Jan 23, 2021 9:38:05 GMT
Somewhat idiosyncratically, I'd like to see: Marco Polo 7 Myth Makers (any episode) Celestial Toy Maker 1 (I have a soft spot for this one) Smugglers (any episode) Power of the Daleks 1 Fury From The Deep 6 Generally, it would be lovely if all stories were represented by at least one episode...
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Post by A Barron on Jan 23, 2021 10:15:12 GMT
Somewhat idiosyncratically, I'd like to see: Marco Polo 7 Myth Makers (any episode) Celestial Toy Maker 1 (I have a soft spot for this one) Smugglers (any episode) Power of the Daleks 1 Fury From The Deep 6 Generally, it would be lovely if all stories were represented by at least one episode... The Celestial Toymaker 1 would be a good one to find as it contains brief clips from two other missing serials.
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Post by Luke Sherlaw on Jan 23, 2021 23:29:42 GMT
The 5 missing episodes of The Abominable Snowmen & Web 3 would do me nicely thank you. Mind you, I would very much like to see The Savages again as it’s my first (very vague) Who memory. Power doesn’t make my cut. It was much better than I remember after seeing the animation but IMHO suffered from new Doctor syndrome, mainly the usual “odd” acting as the Doctors personality settles in, having said that it stands clearly above all the later regeneration stories. I still can’t think about Robot without shuddering. Not about acting, it's about historical value. Maybe not the whole serial but the first episode at least. I don't care all that much for TP4 either to be honest other than the historical value. I personally would put Snowmen near the bottom of the list but different strokes for different folks. Luckily for you Snowmen is probably one of the more likely serials to come back. Savages would be very nice, underrated Hartnell adventure IMO.
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Jan 24, 2021 5:57:30 GMT
Seeing as I don’t expect all 97 episodes to return, I’d want episodes from serials completely missing. Marco Polo, Mythmakers, Massacre, Savages, etc. It be nice to have an ep for every serial.
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