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Post by Ben Walker on Jul 5, 2019 1:09:26 GMT
Looking forward to seeing more of the pre-taped insert rushes like these: Very strange seeing studio VT stuff without audience laughter! A couple of addendum to this list: S02E06 survives as used in And Now For Something Completely Different. There are at least two separate versions of the Choreographed Party Political Broadcast from S03S12 known to exist in NTSC copies from off-air broadcasts, and I've been led to understand that the "captions" introduction also survives by a similar source. And, having checked- there's no way the S03E12 materials could be the ones referenced earlier, and, even combined, they are only slightly over two minutes in length. The voiceover from Carol is different though on ANFSCD, they already tried replacing the missing audio on the Terry Gilliam's Personal Best DVD and it's a poor match. Fingers crossed this one exists on a 16mm T/R or an off air recording from the first showing (I have an off air of the first repeat with the "gangrene" overdub) It was mentioned here a while back that the BBC hold a black & white 16mm T/R of S03E12 so with some Vidfire and chroma dot colour restoration (and the off-air US copies as a reference) it could be restored to near pristine condition hopefully!
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Post by Ben Walker on Jul 9, 2019 4:19:37 GMT
Hi all, It's finally happened, the full restoration of Monty Python's Flying Circus from Network. There will be more detail about the release in the Out of the Archive section of this forum, but I'll focus on recovery of the lost bits here. The entire series will be released on Bluray later this year, uncut. When I first started looking at the archive holdings back in 2006, that appeared to be impossible. Six episodes had material cut. Some were minor, some caused by tape damage, but the longest, three and a half minutes was the trickiest to recover. The restoration is ongoing but we're on track to complete this in time for the anniversary. Paul Found another edit for the list while trawling through the archives that I didn't know about: S02E09 - Opening shots of girls in bikinis (including John Cleese) used to run over off-screen panting noises by Michael Palin; replaced with lilting music, "A Pretty Girl is Like a Melody." David Morgan has a copy of the panting audio.
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Post by Neil Lambess on Sept 28, 2019 4:09:55 GMT
Hope the "surrounded by film" sketch ISNT getting cleaned up ! 😃
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Oct 2, 2019 19:11:28 GMT
Hope the "surrounded by film" sketch ISNT getting cleaned up ! 😃 Well Neil, Not everything is getting the clean-up treatment. For example, some of the archive, Barry Zeppelin, the end archive section in LE War, the Whacky Queen sketch, the beginning of The War Against Pornography etc... But 'Surrounded by Film' is being cleaned up. It's still an upscale, just like the studio and in fact the underlying transfer was pretty clean anyway. The gag still works. The restoration is a very sympathetic one. But elsewhere, some observers have been pointing out where clean-up should not occur and in almost every case, my research and examination of the original materials has revealed what was intentional and what wasn't. When in doubt, I referred directly to the Pythons. In a couple of cases in series one, we unpacked transitions between animation and live action under the supervision of Terry Gilliam and those come under the umbrella of 'as originally intended', the same as the restoration of Cartoon Religions and Terry's infamous 'Trees' animation in 'The Nude Organist'. I think everyone is going to be very pleased. Paul
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Post by Ben Walker on Oct 2, 2019 22:24:16 GMT
Hope the "surrounded by film" sketch ISNT getting cleaned up ! 😃 Well Neil, Not everything is getting the clean-up treatment. For example, some of the archive, Barry Zeppelin, the end archive section in LE War, the Whacky Queen sketch, the beginning of The War Against Pornography etc... But 'Surrounded by Film' is being cleaned up. It's still an upscale, just like the studio and in fact the underlying transfer was pretty clean anyway. The gag still works. The restoration is a very sympathetic one. But elsewhere, some observers have been pointing out where clean-up should not occur and in almost every case, my research and examination of the original materials has revealed what was intentional and what wasn't. When in doubt, I referred directly to the Pythons. In a couple of cases in series one, we unpacked transitions between animation and live action under the supervision of Terry Gilliam and those come under the umbrella of 'as originally intended', the same as the restoration of Cartoon Religions and Terry's infamous 'Trees' animation in 'The Nude Organist'. I think everyone is going to be very pleased. Paul Very exciting Paul! The respect of the original media and intentions is sometimes sorely missing from a lot of restorations I’ve seen any heard, I’m glad that Flying Circus is finally getting the release it deserves. I hope we’ll finally get to see Terry Gilliam as the “Dialect Coach” in Mr Neutron, I’m guessing that episode was the hardest 3 minutes to recover that you were talking about?
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Oct 4, 2019 12:37:22 GMT
Dialect coach intact and in HD!
Mr. Neutron was the most challenging overall, but it was close. Book at Bedtime was a toughie. Looks cracking now.
Paul
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Oct 4, 2019 12:42:06 GMT
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Post by martinogorman on Oct 4, 2019 14:17:15 GMT
This is astounding work from Paul and the team.
You don't realise how much the film inserts wobble around in the gate until you see them side by side with the remaster. The Victorian photos animation in the first show suffered because certain moments weren't very clear (the line being drawn across the guy's forehead is hard to spot first time), so it's nice to see all of Gilliam's artwork properly for the first time. He put so much effort into the drawings - look at that set of curtains, you can now see every line!
The moment at 5.00 in the above video is amazing - really, really looking forward to this set.
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Post by Ben Walker on Oct 4, 2019 22:19:46 GMT
I just want to see more VT clocks!
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Oct 4, 2019 22:35:00 GMT
I just want to see more VT clocks! If you play all, you get the eps. But if you chapter back from the start of the ep, you get the full clock on almost every ep. P
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Post by Ben Walker on Oct 5, 2019 7:36:14 GMT
I just want to see more VT clocks! If you play all, you get the eps. But if you chapter back from the start of the ep, you get the full clock on almost every ep. P Fantastic. The team has done an amazing job. I’m assuming that the ones that are missing would be from episodes where only a copy master exists or it was edited off? Im assuming that the cut line from Conquistador Coffee won’t be included in the episode as the only extant copies would be off-airs and the aforementioned 24fps kinescopes. I know there are a few US off-air VHS copies floating about, a guy on the blu-ray.com forum supposedly has a decent one. Has anything better turned up for the Undertaker Sketch? Even though I’m currently having a fantastic time on holiday in Japan I cannot wait to get home in November to the blu-ray box!!
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Post by garygraham on Oct 5, 2019 8:30:30 GMT
You don't realise how much the film inserts wobble around in the gate until you see them side by side with the remaster. Somehow we didn't see it at the time because we were so used to it. I notice on VHS recordings of the 1980s Miss Marple episodes that the film frame wobbles at every edit. Presumably due to the cement splices in the film.
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Oct 6, 2019 10:19:55 GMT
Hi Everyone. I realise that I am breaking forum rules by posting about the release here and not in the Out of the Archive thread.
I'll discuss cut sections and discoveries here and the release and its contents in the thread in the Out of the Archive section.
So it's likely to get busy over there in the next couple of weeks.
I've just posted a short update.
Paul
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