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Post by Natalie Sinead on Feb 15, 2019 14:37:51 GMT
Well, The Curse of Mr. Bean: Do you think Bean ever goes after those boys who caused him to fall from the diving board? Likewise, I wish i could be a fly on the wall when the parents of the little girl in the yellow swimsuit realise that she's got a pair of men's swim trunks with her as well as her snorkel. I wonder if the women's swimming class that Bean flashes are traumatised for long? I have a family photo from that era taken at my local swimming centre of the beginners swimmers class and EVERY ONE of the small girls is wearing some variation of the swimsuit the little girl in The Curse of Mr Bean wore. And of course even if eighties culture and fashion hadn't "hung over" into the early nineties, since there was no year zero, 1990 is part of the previous decade. Mr. Bean thwarted by a kindergartner: 
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Post by darrenlee on Jan 4, 2022 22:20:15 GMT
It's thought the little girl dropped Mr Bean's trunks on her front step when she arrived home and her parents never noticed.
Of 16 swimming costumes made for the programme, 1 is missing presumed swiped, and exists only as an inferior doormat.
I assume the OP is aware that reps for the disabled do not approve of people with learning difficulties being used as figures of fun.
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Post by petercheck on Jan 5, 2022 8:41:14 GMT
Of 16 swimming costumes made for the programme, 1 is missing presumed swiped, and exists only as an inferior doormat.
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Post by Richard Marple on Jan 5, 2022 21:40:34 GMT
One of the Boys who encounter Mr Bean on the diving board looks like how one of my cousion looked at the time this was made.
My Gran used to reckon Mr Bean was making fun of people with learning difficulties, but even though I'm one I found it funny, just like I do with The Big Bang Theory, especially Sheldon's antics.
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Post by darrenlee on Jan 6, 2022 22:57:38 GMT
I should probably clarify that my reply above was an ironic response to Natalie's rather, er, forceful assertion on another thread, missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/13606/radio-episodes-banned-bbc?page=2, that marginalised groups' reps want a whole lot of stuff censored. I don't actually want Mr Bean banned. But is there perhaps something to think about? Could a programme like Mr Bean be made now? He is very much a character to laugh 'at' rather than 'with' and he seems to have some sort of mental health issue (perhaps the saving grace is that it's difficult to diagnose him with any known real-life condition). Sheldon is clearly written to be easily diagnosable with high-functioning autism, which, unlike Mr Bean's condition, is not 100% bad, so we can have empathy with him.
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Post by nathangeorge on Feb 16, 2022 6:59:13 GMT
Mr Bean is an alien. He's seen literally falling to Earth at the beginning of almost every episode.
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Post by mattg on Feb 16, 2022 11:05:56 GMT
I should probably clarify that my reply above was an ironic response to Natalie's rather, er, forceful assertion on another thread, missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/13606/radio-episodes-banned-bbc?page=2, that marginalised groups' reps want a whole lot of stuff censored. I don't actually want Mr Bean banned. But is there perhaps something to think about? Could a programme like Mr Bean be made now? He is very much a character to laugh 'at' rather than 'with' and he seems to have some sort of mental health issue (perhaps the saving grace is that it's difficult to diagnose him with any known real-life condition). Sheldon is clearly written to be easily diagnosable with high-functioning autism, which, unlike Mr Bean's condition, is not 100% bad, so we can have empathy with him. …well that’s one way to kill a pseudo Mr Bean appreciation thread! Personally I’m going to go with the ‘alien’ theory to explain the character’s social awkwardness rather than mental infirmity. Regardless, such an innocuous, simple and wonderfully inventive series really shouldn’t be over analysed. Oh and to answer “could a programme like Mr Bean be made now?”: absolutely not. Mr Bean is funny…
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Post by Ralph Rose on Feb 17, 2022 19:17:57 GMT
Mr Bean is an alien. He's seen literally falling to Earth at the beginning of almost every episode. ... and literally being lifted back up at the end of at least one episode.
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Post by Ralph Rose on Feb 17, 2022 19:36:01 GMT
Personally I’m going to go with the ‘alien’ theory to explain the character’s social awkwardness rather than mental infirmity. Regardless, such an innocuous, simple and wonderfully inventive series really shouldn’t be over analysed. Oh and to answer “could a programme like Mr Bean be made now?”: absolutely not. Mr Bean is funny…Brittas Empire is another that may fall into that category now. I'm high functioning autism myself, so I can relate to these characters, Data from star trek as well. Sometimes when I try to be funny I do go over the top, so thankfully my wife will cut me short and say, "You're acting like Gordon Brittas, again." Oh, dear!?
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Post by Richard Marple on Feb 17, 2022 21:36:13 GMT
Personally I’m going to go with the ‘alien’ theory to explain the character’s social awkwardness rather than mental infirmity. Regardless, such an innocuous, simple and wonderfully inventive series really shouldn’t be over analysed. Oh and to answer “could a programme like Mr Bean be made now?”: absolutely not. Mr Bean is funny…Brittas Empire is another that may fall into that category now. I'm high functioning autism myself, so I can relate to these characters, Data from star trek as well. Sometimes when I try to be funny I do go over the top, so thankfully my wife will cut me short and say, "You're acting like Gordon Brittas, again." Oh, dear!? I'm in a similar situation, I often relate to the characters in the Big Bang Theory for the same reasons. My parents went on a cruise where one of the passengers kept trying to micromanage the activities on board & got the nickname Mr Brittas by my parents.
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Post by Natalie Sinead on Feb 18, 2022 22:34:52 GMT
When you tell the general public you have autism, the plebs assume you are either Sheldon Cooper or Rain Main.
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Post by Richard Marple on Feb 19, 2022 13:37:39 GMT
When you tell the general public you have autism, the plebs assume you are either Sheldon Cooper or Rain Main. Yes I find that a problem, especially a former boss who thought I would have superhuman abilities!
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Post by Natalie Sinead on Feb 19, 2022 15:33:46 GMT
or they've heard that autistic people like you and me "lack empathy" and have already decided that we are barely an eye twitch away from becoming the next Leena Klammer: 
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Post by nathangeorge on Feb 21, 2022 19:50:03 GMT
I'm not sure if this is the place to say this, and if it isn't please forgive me, but reading comments from folks on the autism scale talking about characters like Data and Sheldon reminded me of something I said to my partner once about those characters and how the makers of the show's they feature in (BBT & TNG) try to 'humanize' them more and more as the series go on, almost suggesting they're not quite human until they have a girlfriend, understand sarcasm, get a per etc. It's never sat well with me. Maybe I read too much into these things.
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Post by Ralph Rose on Feb 21, 2022 21:53:30 GMT
What I got from TNG is that Data was already, "human", and he just didn't realize it. Why I can relate to him.
Now this does not invalidate your viewpoint in the slightest, as it can mean different things to different people.
What I'm trying to say is it all comes down to is the right to choose what it means to you. When we start choosing what we think is right or wrong for others, is where problems start.
Now I'm not suggesting things like Murder or other such horrid things like it should be allowed etc...
A loose example of what I'm trying to convey is choosing to ban "Speedy Gonzalez" cartoons in the USA market, because it's perceived, insensitive to Mexicans, when in reality it's the Number one cartoon in Mexico.
Banning Mr. Bean for being perceived insensitive to people with Autism, especially if the people who make that decision is not autistic, would be another example ...
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