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Post by Robert Lia on Mar 6, 2019 0:05:51 GMT
Black and White version will be the default version for me as well. I did eventually watch the colour version of The Power of the Daleks but it did not seem right for me.
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Post by Hugh Pearson on Mar 6, 2019 10:54:43 GMT
And a recon from Derek Handley - you might guess that I still enjoy the recons ...
Episode Reconstructions: Surviving film frames, fragments of existing footage and set photographs are brought together with the original unedited audio to reconstruct a presentation of the original now lost live-action production of ‘The Macra Terror’, as seen by viewers of BBC 1 in 1967. Produced by Derek Handley. Available to watch with or without an optional narration track read by Anneke Wills.
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Post by charles drummel on Mar 6, 2019 15:04:17 GMT
Black and White version will be the default version for me as well. I did eventually watch the colour version of The Power of the Daleks but it did not seem right for me. I agree. Though, this time, the colour version was produced from the start by the animation team (I expect that the B&W one will just be desaturated). For Power, the colour was done after the fact, by a Canadian company. We've only seen a few stills so far, but the colour does at least look a lot more natural this time. I'll probably watch that one with the commentary track. And then I'll watch the recon (without narration), which I'm very excited for. I can't wait to have watched this enough times to be quite sick of it.
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Post by Robert Lia on Mar 6, 2019 21:20:06 GMT
I have seen the recons of The Macra Terror (admittedly they are now 15 25 years old) and are no doubt much improved but I prefer the black and white animation. I will eventually as I did with Power of the Daleks play the recon version though out of nostalgia
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Post by Alan Hayes on Mar 7, 2019 17:46:52 GMT
Sounds like I'm out of kilter with everyone else, but for me the colour version is the main attraction. I enjoyed the colour version of Power a great deal more than the B/W one and I think it's because with no surviving episodes to sit beside, both Power and Macra don't *need* to be B/W. They're not the originals, rather they're a new version of something mostly lost, and therefore I have no reason to limit myself to watching them in B/W.
I saw the Wheel in Space mini-animation at the BFI, in colour... and it was breathtaking. Watching the B/W version wouldn't have the same appeal to me.
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Mar 7, 2019 18:45:56 GMT
Not everyone. I'm even hoping that one day we'll colourize all the 1960s output which will make them more accessible.
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Post by Robert Lia on Mar 7, 2019 21:08:24 GMT
I may be a bit of an old dinosaur but if there made in black and white they should be seen in black and white. I am talking about the existing episodes though as for the animations I will watch them in black and white as those era's of the program were made in black and white. Now I have no objection of a colour version of the animations being available for a new generation of fans that did not grow up with black and white television to enjoy.
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Post by zaqwilson on Mar 8, 2019 1:17:55 GMT
I may be a bit of an old dinosaur but if there made in black and white they should be seen in black and white. I am talking about the existing episodes though as for the animations I will watch them in black and white as those era's of the program were made in black and white. Now I have no objection of a colour version of the animations being available for a new generation of fans that did not grow up with black and white television to enjoy. I second you! I think one reason Im so partial to 60s Who is the B&W factor. Colour seemed to detract for me. I enjoy the Pertwees far more in B&W. To quote my roommate in college "Dr Who is easier to believe in B&W... Colour made the sets look more wobbly."
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Post by Qasim Yusuf on Mar 8, 2019 7:49:15 GMT
DWM is saying that the animation will cut out the scene of the Doctor's make over due to it taking too long to animate in the time given. Thoughts?
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Post by Richard Marple on Mar 8, 2019 14:08:49 GMT
I may be a bit of an old dinosaur but if there made in black and white they should be seen in black and white. I am talking about the existing episodes though as for the animations I will watch them in black and white as those era's of the program were made in black and white. Now I have no objection of a colour version of the animations being available for a new generation of fans that did not grow up with black and white television to enjoy. I second you! I think one reason Im so partial to 60s Who is the B&W factor. Colour seemed to detract for me. I enjoy the Pertwees far more in B&W. To quote my roommate in college "Dr Who is easier to believe in B&W... Colour made the sets look more wobbly." I've heard the blue CSO fringing in Underworld is less obvious in black & white.
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Post by charles drummel on Mar 8, 2019 14:53:24 GMT
I second you! I think one reason Im so partial to 60s Who is the B&W factor. Colour seemed to detract for me. I enjoy the Pertwees far more in B&W. To quote my roommate in college "Dr Who is easier to believe in B&W... Colour made the sets look more wobbly." I've heard the blue CSO fringing in Underworld is less obvious in black & white. I've heard that Colin's coat is less colourful in black and white.
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Post by Vaughan Stanger on Mar 8, 2019 16:49:12 GMT
DWM is saying that the animation will cut out the scene of the Doctor's make over due to it taking too long to animate in the time given. Thoughts? I think it's a great pity since that piece of "frippery" (as I one of the animators has described it) demonstrates the Second Doctor's character perfectly. Also, it's the only scene I remember from the broadcast. I don't know whether it would have been possible to cut away to another character's reaction, but that would have better than losing the Doctor's spoken reaction (IMO). Ah well, the budget determines the amount of working time available, I suppose.
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Post by Qasim Yusuf on Mar 8, 2019 18:08:38 GMT
While I don't blame the animators as they clearly haven't been given enough time, it just seems like a rush release. First the crappy cover and now the decision to remove one of my favourite scenes in the whole serial. I'll still buy it but I would have rather waited a few months longer and gotten a better release. Hopefully they take more time with the next animation.
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Post by Robert Lia on Mar 8, 2019 22:14:58 GMT
Well they have pushed back the release date on Amazon UK again. So why not take the time to do it correctly?
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Post by Alan Hayes on Mar 8, 2019 23:42:10 GMT
I may be a bit of an old dinosaur but if there made in black and white they should be seen in black and white. I am talking about the existing episodes though as for the animations I will watch them in black and white as those era's of the program were made in black and white. Now I have no objection of a colour version of the animations being available for a new generation of fans that did not grow up with black and white television to enjoy. I grew up with B/W television but that doesn't mean that I need to be watching a 2019 animation of 60s Doctor Who in B/W. It's not just the new generation of fans who welcome this animation being in colour. Fortunately a B/W version is available in the same release so everyone's happy.
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