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Post by scotttelfer on Dec 19, 2018 13:10:32 GMT
A fair point but in that case the release of "The Moonbase" was perhaps considered unsuccessful? so "The Crusades" and "The Underwater Menace" were scrapped. Then after "Shada" they did "The Power of the Daleks" and now "The Underwater Menace" both of which have no surviving episode's to include. They also have opted not to do a special edition of "The Web of Fear" with episode three animated. One thinks its cause it (the original) might show up later but one also thinks it breaks up the live action to have 50 minutes of live action then 25 minutes of animation then going back to live action. Don't get me wrong I am not suggesting they animate all 6 episodes of "The Web of Fear" not at all. My idea was that if you do all the episodes of a missing story as animations you can also market the DVD more than one way. If you include the existing episodes (including being able to see them in there proper place) in the story (sort of like how the DVD range gave you the chance to view updated special effects or the original as you watched). We have what 10 story's with orphan episodes left to be animated "The Crusades", "Galaxy Four", "Daleks Master Plan", "The Celestial Toymaker", "The Underwater Menace" , "The Faceless Ones", "The Evil of the Daleks", "The Abominable Snowman", "The Wheel in Space" and "The Space Pirates". Five of which "Galaxy Four", "The Myth Makers',"The Daleks Master Plan", "The Massacre" and "The Space Pirates" don't even have telesnaps to help with the animation so I don't see those coming any time soon as they would take a lot more work. This gives the BBC the option later of off having a box set of completely animated story's they can sell yet again (and we know how the BBC likes to sell it to us a third and forth time). If we only animate the episode's with out surviving episodes but with tele-snaps then we have "Marco Polo", "The Crusades, "The Celestial Toymaker", "The Savages", "The Smugglers", "The Highlander's" , "The Abominable Snowman" and "Fury from the Deep".
Shada did well and that's jumping between live action and animation from scene to scene, and the animation team don't seem to have any issues filling in gaps between orphaned episodes based on interviews given.
It's fairly safe to say the range is in a much stronger place now than it was a few years back, what that means for future releases remains to be seen. I expect at the very least they'll wait for Phillip Morris to clarify what he's found first before proceeding any further, even if it is a "sorry, just found a bunch of duplicate Baker tapes".
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Post by mattg on Dec 27, 2018 20:56:28 GMT
To my own surprise I'm rather excited by this announcement/confirmation. I say "surprise" because I've coincidentally been re-listening to all the missing 'Who BBC Audio releases that I own and, once again, Macra ranks near the bottom in terms of personal enjoyment. In fact it was a grind to get through. Compound that with disappointment for the quality of animation prevalent in 'Shada' and 'Power of the Daleks' (in truth my lofty expectations were unreasonable given the time constraints and diminutive budgets et al evident via said releases) and I probably wouldn't otherwise bother. Nevertheless, alarmed that I rate 'The Space Pirates' higher than Macra' (yes really) I'm keen to reevaluate my opinions asap! This release then affords me the perfect opportunity to do so. The animation looks of a higher standard to what has preceded it too which can't be bad. Cant wait.
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Richard Develyn
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Post by Richard Develyn on Dec 28, 2018 9:45:05 GMT
To my own surprise I'm rather excited by this announcement/confirmation. I say "surprise" because I've coincidentally been re-listening to all the missing 'Who BBC Audio releases that I own and, once again, Macra ranks near the bottom in terms of personal enjoyment. In fact it was a grind to get through. Compound that with disappointment for the quality of animation prevalent in 'Shada' and 'Power of the Daleks' (in truth my lofty expectations were unreasonable given the time constraints and diminutive budgets et al evident via said releases) and I probably wouldn't otherwise bother. Nevertheless, alarmed that I rate 'The Space Pirates' higher than Macra' (yes really) I'm keen to reevaluate my opinions asap! This release then affords me the perfect opportunity to do so. The animation looks of a higher standard to what has preceded it too which can't be bad. Cant wait. Part 2 is very good. If one episode of this story was found then that is the one I'd like to see. It was similar with Underwater Menace, actually - part 2 is the best episode. In fact, I think part 2 is the best part in all four 4-parters of season 4. Then again, I like part 2s in general :-) Richard
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Post by mattg on Dec 30, 2018 19:15:03 GMT
To my own surprise I'm rather excited by this announcement/confirmation. I say "surprise" because I've coincidentally been re-listening to all the missing 'Who BBC Audio releases that I own and, once again, Macra ranks near the bottom in terms of personal enjoyment. In fact it was a grind to get through. Compound that with disappointment for the quality of animation prevalent in 'Shada' and 'Power of the Daleks' (in truth my lofty expectations were unreasonable given the time constraints and diminutive budgets et al evident via said releases) and I probably wouldn't otherwise bother. Nevertheless, alarmed that I rate 'The Space Pirates' higher than Macra' (yes really) I'm keen to reevaluate my opinions asap! This release then affords me the perfect opportunity to do so. The animation looks of a higher standard to what has preceded it too which can't be bad. Cant wait. Part 2 is very good. If one episode of this story was found then that is the one I'd like to see. It was similar with Underwater Menace, actually - part 2 is the best episode. In fact, I think part 2 is the best part in all four 4-parters of season 4. Then again, I like part 2s in general :-) Richard Personally I'd be most curious about seeing both the original episode 4 (unlikely to ever happen bar a miracle of course) of Macra and the animated version - if only to find out if the cheerleading/morale boasting scene (i.e. "let them know, let them know, ra ra ra!" etc) is as corny as it sounds! In fact said scene should provide a good test for the quality of the animation used in this impending release given that it's quite a motion intense sequence.
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Post by stephen macpherson on Dec 31, 2018 7:20:42 GMT
I just remembered something about the Macra Terror.
The Character 'Chicki' was recast mid-production (Sandra Bryant followed by Carol Keyes).
Does anybody know if the animation factors in this change in appearance?
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Post by lousingh on Jan 4, 2019 19:40:35 GMT
Personally I'd be most curious about seeing both the original episode 4 (unlikely to ever happen bar a miracle of course) of Macra and the animated version - if only to find out if the cheerleading/morale boasting scene (i.e. "let them know, let them know, ra ra ra!" etc) is as corny as it sounds! In fact said scene should provide a good test for the quality of the animation used in this impending release given that it's quite a motion intense sequence. I will venture a guess that they deliberately went miles over-the-top -- and that it is even cornier than it sounds.
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Post by timmunton on Jan 19, 2019 13:34:32 GMT
Does anyone know if the DVD will include both the b&w & colour versions - ? Or will both only be available on the Blu ray &/or the steelbook? There doesn't seem to be any info on this point at Amazon etc at the moment.
Thanks to anyone if they have this info & can share.
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Post by scotttelfer on Jan 20, 2019 2:51:26 GMT
Does anyone know if the DVD will include both the b&w & colour versions - ? Or will both only be available on the Blu ray &/or the steelbook? There doesn't seem to be any info on this point at Amazon etc at the moment. Thanks to anyone if they have this info & can share.
It's my understanding that both versions are included on all releases.
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Post by timmunton on Jan 21, 2019 15:28:03 GMT
Does anyone know if the DVD will include both the b&w & colour versions - ? Or will both only be available on the Blu ray &/or the steelbook? There doesn't seem to be any info on this point at Amazon etc at the moment. Thanks to anyone if they have this info & can share.
It's my understanding that both versions are included on all releases.
Thanks Scott - hopefully that will be the case then.
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Post by Dominic Abrams on Jan 22, 2019 18:21:55 GMT
I just hope this gets a North American release. We still haven't got EOTW Special Edition (and I doubt we ever will at this point).
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Post by charles drummel on Jan 22, 2019 19:21:35 GMT
I just hope this gets a North American release. We still haven't got EOTW Special Edition (and I doubt we ever will at this point). There's a DVD up for Macra on Amazon US. I think what's more in doubt is whether they'll bother with a blu-ray for that region (after Power and Shada didn't get them).
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Post by zaqwilson on Jan 22, 2019 21:15:16 GMT
I don't wait for Region 1. Just acquire a multi region player and purchase Region 2.
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Post by DavidGreene on Feb 2, 2019 20:11:23 GMT
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Post by zaqwilson on Feb 3, 2019 3:00:18 GMT
Thanks for info! Definitely not waiting 6 months longer, gotta go for the March release to quench my thirst for the golden age of who. As Mara is one I don't know well, it will be a true treat! "Oh my giddy aunt!"
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Post by John Wall on Feb 3, 2019 12:21:49 GMT
It’s being shown at NFT1 on 16 March - Anneke Wills will also be there.
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