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Post by jackford on Nov 5, 2018 21:06:55 GMT
Fantastic find. Harry Worth is definitely a high priority recovery as far as i'm concerned as is the series 3 Rag Trade episode where Babs was featured more prominently. The icing on the cake is definitely the Citizen James episode,that's certainly me on my way to MBW. Any forthcoming announcements about the 2 missing Likely Lads episodes which you mentioned are in safe hands a few weeks ago Paul?
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Nov 5, 2018 21:23:20 GMT
Any forthcoming announcements about the 2 missing Likely Lads episodes which you mentioned are in safe hands a few weeks ago Paul? I can say nothing more about it, as I didn't find them, other than fans of the series won't be disappointed. Paul
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Post by Stephen Neve on Nov 5, 2018 22:27:06 GMT
Hi Paul, Is that all the comedy stuff he returned cause i am a little confused as to the further recoveries to come in the new year are part of this batch or something else? This group of recoveries is all that has been returned. Anything that Philip further announces will be an entirely separate thing. Paul Thanks for clearing that up Paul, Ta
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Post by John Wall on Nov 5, 2018 23:25:30 GMT
What, although not immediately apparent, is important is any light PM can throw on bicycling chains, Dr Who was a very small percentage of the material moving around and possibly fitted into a larger system.
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Post by Jim Exley on Nov 6, 2018 6:40:19 GMT
That's a great result - among which two of my favourite comedies (Steptoe and Sid) and two I need to learn about as The Rag Trade and Harry Worth seem to have passed me by. I hope to get to see some of them. Other than the bfi showings, is there any intention to present these to a wider audience?
I would rather like to think the Steptoe recovery could be the catalyst to a box set with equivalent care and attention lavished on it to what we have seen on the sixties Doctor Who releases.
Cheers, Jim
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Nov 6, 2018 8:13:27 GMT
That's a great result - among which two of my favourite comedies (Steptoe and Sid) and two I need to learn about as The Rag Trade and Harry Worth seem to have passed me by. I hope to get to see some of them. Other than the bfi showings, is there any intention to present these to a wider audience? I would rather like to think the Steptoe recovery could be the catalyst to a box set with equivalent care and attention lavished on it to what we have seen on the sixties Doctor Who releases. Cheers, Jim I agree with you of course that all of this material should be seen by a wider audience. I rather suspect that most of this comedy material will eventually get a release of some sort. However, the only public screening will be at Missing Believed Wiped. Paul
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Nov 6, 2018 13:39:17 GMT
The Harry Worths were first (and last?) broadcast about 50 years ago,i.e. roughly halfway between the end of WW1 and now. Screened abroad since obviously. But yes, it's almost a lifetime ago, which makes their condition all the more remarkable. But the Citizen James episode is almost perfect. It needed no work other than to remove a small piece of film stuck to one frame of the opening titles. Paul Great to be able to enjoy these shows again Paul. Jaz
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Post by markhumphries on Nov 6, 2018 13:52:53 GMT
That's a great result - among which two of my favourite comedies (Steptoe and Sid) and two I need to learn about as The Rag Trade and Harry Worth seem to have passed me by. I hope to get to see some of them. Other than the bfi showings, is there any intention to present these to a wider audience? I would rather like to think the Steptoe recovery could be the catalyst to a box set with equivalent care and attention lavished on it to what we have seen on the sixties Doctor Who releases. Cheers, Jim I agree with you of course that all of this material should be seen by a wider audience. I rather suspect that most of this comedy material will eventually get a release of some sort. However, the only public screening will be at Missing Believed Wiped. Paul If only the BBC had some kind of online streaming platform or an extra channel that could present these findings to a wider audience. Crazy thoughts I know...
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Post by Nigel Lamb on Nov 6, 2018 14:56:04 GMT
I don't see why they can't put such screenings on the red button.
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Post by Jim Exley on Nov 7, 2018 7:44:07 GMT
There has been some nice stuff on the 'From The Archives' section of iPlayer. Can't believe I hadn't thought of that.
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Post by timmunton on Nov 7, 2018 23:06:53 GMT
A quick count at TV Brain shows as well as the 3 just announced 'Harry Worth' discoveries - great finds! - 6 others are complete & present in some form from that programme:
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One episode - a home video recording - from Series 1 (1966)
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Five episodes - all 16 mm b&w prints only (originally recorded by BBC on 2 inch colour videotape) - from Series 4 (1969-70):
So with the 3 recoverys from Series 2 (1967) that makes 9 in all (out of 37 made). 9 being a fantastic & substantial increase from 6; about 1 in 4 now survive rather than about 1 in 6.
[ LATER EDIT; CORRECTION (Writing now on Sat 10 November) :
Later in this thread Jack Ford kindly correctly pointed out that it is 12 - not 9 - that are now known to exist. The other 3 are not mentioned at TV Brain at all because, presumably, they exist in their actual original format ie rather than as later copies - I overlooked that this seems to be the way TV Brain lists/doesn't list episodes. Apologies. End of Edit. ]
I very much enjoyed the fairly recent DVD release of the earlier 'Here's Harry' series, which had the 11 surviving episodes of that on it. Hopefully it's sales were reasonable and maybe now the 9 [EDIT : 12!] surviving episodes of 'Harry Worth' will also get a DVD release!
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Post by John Green on Nov 7, 2018 23:14:06 GMT
Harry's been fairly lucky recently with finds,hasn't he? The DVD included the recently-discovered episode which was shown on the night Kennedy was assassinated.
I hadn't appreciated that this was a different show,and that it doesn't conflict with the DVD.
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Post by timmunton on Nov 8, 2018 5:16:08 GMT
I hadn't appreciated that this was a different show,and that it doesn't conflict with the DVD. I see what you mean John : If the 'new' 3 had been from the 'Here's Harry' version, less likely for a DVD release as the actual 11 of those are already available. Whereas none of the 9 ( 6 + the 3 'new' ) from 'Harry Worth' have been released - so an excellent potential DVD release. [EDIT of 10 November - actually 12 (9 + the 3 'new'); see edit in my previous post - 2 posts above this one - re. my error saying it is 9 when it is in fact 12] Incidentally, as you're probably aware, both series are probably essentially identical, except for their titles - same format, same type of humour, same production team (or very similar). As well as being in 'Harry Worth'; the earlier 'Here's Harry' - in one or more of it's later series - also has the famous shop window gag/illusion as it's opening title sequence - an image of which was used in one of our maths text books when at primary school (not sure why)! And, as you probably know, is at the start of one of the 'Here's Harry' DVD episodes.
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Post by RWels on Nov 8, 2018 9:17:15 GMT
The one I mentioned before was HARRY WORTH A Soldier's Farewell 1 28/10/1966 - it had lost its audio, but, it's now likely that Ed Doolan has recorded the sound when it was repeated. So it can probably be restored.
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Nov 8, 2018 13:18:11 GMT
The one I mentioned before was HARRY WORTH A Soldier's Farewell 1 28/10/1966 - it had lost its audio, but, it's now likely that Ed Doolan has recorded the sound when it was repeated. So it can probably be restored. Sorry to disappoint, but Ed didn't record 'Harry Worth', more's the pity. Paul
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