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Post by Angus H on Jul 26, 2018 20:51:07 GMT
The first episode of Dad's Army to be broadcast in colour was 'Branded' on 20th November 1969. However, despite the previous ten episodes of that season being transmitted in black and white, they were recorded in colour and exist in the archive as such (barring Room at the Bottom).
We know that notes can be misleading and sometimes false since until The Enemy of the World was discovered we always thought that Episode 3 was the first to be recorded in 625 lines, when it turned out they all were.
So my question is, if we know programmes were being recorded in anticipation for the colour switchover, is there ANY possibility that any late Troughton episodes were originally recorded in colour but were transmitted in black and white ala Dad's Army in 1969?
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Post by Robert Lia on Jul 26, 2018 21:03:43 GMT
No the only Troughton story's recorded in colour were The Three Doctors, The Five Doctors and The Two Doctors
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jul 26, 2018 21:33:55 GMT
The first episode of Dad's Army to be broadcast in colour was 'Branded' on 20th November 1969. However, despite the previous ten episodes of that season being transmitted in black and white, they were recorded in colour and exist in the archive as such (barring Room at the Bottom). We know that notes can be misleading and sometimes false since until The Enemy of the World was discovered we always thought that Episode 3 was the first to be recorded in 625 lines, when it turned out they all were. So my question is, if we know programmes were being recorded in anticipation for the colour switchover, is there ANY possibility that any late Troughton episodes were originally recorded in colour but were transmitted in black and white ala Dad's Army in 1969? I remember reading a rumour in the early 1980s in DWM that a Troughton episode had supposedly been recorded as a test transmission but this was subsequently disproved.I did put this as an annotation underneath the list of missing episodes in the 1981 Winter Special. |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jul 27, 2018 8:05:29 GMT
A number of the final episodes of The War Games would have been shot with the new EMI 2001 colour cameras, but the final signal recorded to the master videotape would have only been in b/w.
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Post by Angus H on Jul 27, 2018 9:12:49 GMT
A number of the final episodes of The War Games would have been shot with the new EMI 2001 colour cameras, but the final signal recorded to the master videotape would have only been in b/w. So even if the master tapes survived they'd still be in black and white? . . . Any way of finding out exactly which ones were recorded in PAL? |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jul 27, 2018 9:51:45 GMT
Yes, the colour was removed before the image was recorded.
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Post by Angus H on Jul 27, 2018 10:08:04 GMT
Yes, the colour was removed before the image was recorded. I imagine all the film inserts were shot in black and white too, yes? |
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jul 27, 2018 11:17:45 GMT
Yes, the colour was removed before the image was recorded. That's an amazing thought,the fact that the War Games could have potentially been in colour!Why was this decision taken when Pertwee's first season was recorded in colour only a few months later?Was there a contractual reason? |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jul 27, 2018 11:46:20 GMT
Yes, the colour was removed before the image was recorded. I imagine all the film inserts were shot in black and white too, yes? Yes. There would have been no point in using colour film stock. |
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Post by Angus H on Jul 27, 2018 12:10:30 GMT
Yes, the colour was removed before the image was recorded. Pertwee's first season was recorded in colour only a few months later? Always wondered, how much of Pertwee's first season was actually recorded in 1969? Obviously Spearhead From Space was filmed in 1969 and I imagine much, if not all, of The Silurians was also. . .but I always thought the rest was recorded/filmed in early 1970? Anyone know? |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jul 27, 2018 12:30:24 GMT
Other than some early scenes with the cave sets, which were all done together, the first full episode to be recorded in the 1970s was Episode 4 of The Silurians on 5 January.
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Post by Richard Marple on Jul 27, 2018 12:53:36 GMT
It used to be a fandom myth that the filmed sections for Evil Of The Daleks were made with colour film as a test.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Jul 27, 2018 14:12:30 GMT
Yes, the colour was removed before the image was recorded. That's an amazing thought,the fact that the War Games could have potentially been in colour!Why was this decision taken when Pertwee's first season was recorded in colour only a few months later?Was there a contractual reason? That's the BBC's thinking for you - when TOTPS moved from Manchester to London they were given a ready made colour studio..in which they promptly chucked out all the colour cameras and put B/W ones back in..apparently the fogeys at the BBC thought BBC2 viewers wanted to see in colour, tennis..and old blokes wandering around buildings. |
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jul 27, 2018 19:01:01 GMT
Strictly speaking, all the 1960s stories were made in colour. It's just that the BBC decided not to record them that way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 19:26:53 GMT
No the only Troughton story's recorded in colour were The Three Doctors, The Five Doctors and The Two Doctors Surely this counts as a colour Troughton too? youtu.be/VmylI6SOzRk |
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