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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Jul 31, 2018 13:20:09 GMT
If some of you are curious about home video - I have several hours of off air home recorded video programmes from 1967 to 1969 on a Sony CV2000, so there is hope that material may exist. I uploaded this extract to youtube... this is a clip from a live show broadcast in May 1968 (the day after the Wheel in Space part 4) It is camera recorded from a 405 line monitor. Before you ask, checking for Doctor Who was the first thing I did! www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MqzOkDvipg Just the fact that you managed to record onto what was still primitive technology,precious moments from that great decade is wonderful in itself Stephen Cranford,let alone if it was Dr Who!Probably the closest thing to Time Travel I know!
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Post by Greg H on Jul 31, 2018 16:13:11 GMT
Would it not be an idea to have a sticky thread with some pictures of what archaic video tape formats look like so that people know what to keep an eye open for when they are out and about? Stranger things have happened. Stuff like boxes, the reels and markings/ logos on them. Easy to do and might be useful.
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Post by Señor pinguino on Jul 31, 2018 22:15:01 GMT
Well... Maybe in singapore or chine someone have a homevideo tape of some missing episodes... Its more possible because in some countries they screened B&W episodes in the 70s.
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Post by scotttelfer on Aug 1, 2018 1:37:13 GMT
Well... Maybe in singapore or chine someone have a homevideo tape of some missing episodes... Its more possible because in some countries they screened B&W episodes in the 70s. There were far bigger problems in China at that time than recording episodes of Doctor Who that were broadcasting in another country entirely.
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Post by Neil Lambess on Aug 1, 2018 5:03:58 GMT
NOOPE ......I was there ...Attack of the Crab Monsters is missing several keys points I personally witnessed haha ....Troughton , Hines, the titles and theme music ....the fact that it was an episode I'd seen before ...to name but a few
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Post by Neil Lambess on Aug 1, 2018 5:08:36 GMT
I don't buy this 'insider' and 'slipping films out just in case sports day gets cancelled' nonsense. This is the real world, not the world of The X-Files. There's no evidence for this and it's also not fair implicating people we don't even know in underhanded dealings. Bit of a smear on their character methinks. In the case of the Evil home recording, there was firm evidence, as witnessed by 3 people. All we have for Macra Terror school showing is childhood memories as evidence, and childhood memories are unreliable at best. Speaking of ill-remembered crabs, I recall in the West Midlands, 1970s, seeing the first half of 'Ebirah - Terror of the Deep!' and then being annoyed at having to be whisked off for the weekly shop with Mum. When we got back, my brother tortured me with his account of the great battles between Godzilla and Ebirah... Except that a search today online through The Times TV listings reveals that the film was only broadcast in the Midlands after 4pm (twice). But I SWEAR it was a morning slot, rudely interrupted by a town trip. You can't tell me otherwise, Times Online. The point is, those guys could have seen Macra Terror on TV, and are incorrectly recalling today they were seeing it at school - and, yes, despite one of them saying they'd NOT seen it on TV. Childhood memories... If, and it’s a big if, prints did “escape”, albeit temporarily, it was something that was completely unauthorised. Yep it was theft as an employee and the guy who did it made quite a bit of petty cash from film collectors in the wellington area in the 60s and 70s . Don't forget that the Lion only survived due to people getting tipped off that stuff was going to be dumped at the Johnsonville tip. .. the sad thing for us is that Doctor Who wasn't what MOST film collectors were after. Preferring instead to chase 16 mm prints of movies screened on tv and American shows..most of which ironically survived in the states and we're never junked.I was told about just ONE Film collector interested in SF by a TVNZ employee in the late 80s early 90s who did get some stuff off NZBC in the 60s and 70s . And He lived as I did in the Wairarapa If you ever get to watch the N Z news footage of the Lions rediscovery Fred Gapes (who was still working at TVNZ in 99 ) has a less that thrilled reaction to the very idea that copyrighted material escaped the store rooms ....( and No He wasn't involved in getting stuff out )
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Post by Señor pinguino on Aug 1, 2018 9:32:47 GMT
Well... Maybe in singapore or chine someone have a homevideo tape of some missing episodes... Its more possible because in some countries they screened B&W episodes in the 70s. There were far bigger problems in China at that time than recording episodes of Doctor Who that were broadcasting in another country entirely. Sorry, i spoke about Hong kong no China.
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Post by Robert Lia on Aug 1, 2018 20:39:09 GMT
It would be interesting to know when VHS and more importantly Betasmax were introduced in some of the Asian country's. I know when I reported for military duty in the Philippines in May 1987 and VHS and Betamax where widely available if you could afford it
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Post by zaqwilson on Aug 1, 2018 23:21:20 GMT
It would be interesting to know when VHS and more importantly Betasmax were introduced in some of the Asian country's. I know when I reported for military duty in the Philippines in May 1987 and VHS and Betamax where widely available if you could afford it Even though they were not formally introduced into a country, they entered none the less. Beta Max was introduced in May of 75 in Japan & Nov/Dec in the U.S. A family member living abroad sent us a Beta in late June early July of 75 with 2 boxes blank tapes. Price was that of a low range new car. Neighbors were astounded at this amazing technology that nobody had heard of and could not be found anywhere. I still have the machine (looks NOTHING like the ones a few years later), it still works, but has horrid picture quality and eats tapes I'm assuming that as soon as they were released, Beta Max & VHS (in 76 & 77) began to filter around the world quickly in this manner.
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Post by Ralph Rose on Aug 2, 2018 11:21:17 GMT
It would be interesting to know when VHS and more importantly Betasmax were introduced in some of the Asian country's. I know when I reported for military duty in the Philippines in May 1987 and VHS and Betamax where widely available if you could afford it Even though they were not formally introduced into a country, they entered none the less. Beta Max was introduced in May of 75 in Japan & Nov/Dec in the U.S. A family member living abroad sent us a Beta in late June early July of 75 with 2 boxes blank tapes. Price was that of a low range new car. Neighbors were astounded at this amazing technology that nobody had heard of and could not be found anywhere. I still have the machine (looks NOTHING like the ones a few years later), it still works, but has horrid picture quality and eats tapes I'm assuming that as soon as they were released, Beta Max & VHS (in 76 & 77) began to filter around the world quickly in this manner. Sounds like the machine needs a good cleaning, re-greasing of moving parts, (as the grease breaks down and gets contaminated with dirt) and a cleaning, alignment or replacement of the Head, pinch rollers, capstan and tape guides. I would not play anything in it until serviced and checked out. Those early machines were huge as well. JVC for VHS, and Sony for Betamax were superior machines, and lasted a long time if cared for. I still have a working JVC VHS. All it needs is a little servicing now and then and it works great. Panasonic for VHS was another lasting brand in it's day.
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Post by Robert Lia on Aug 2, 2018 22:35:11 GMT
I still have a working in 1982 NTSC Sony Time Commander Betamax in the garage. I have not used it in over 10 years but its a big machine. I keep it around as it looks like an antique. That and its so heavy I don't want to hurt my bask carrying it out to the curb
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Post by Ed Brown on Aug 4, 2018 4:16:02 GMT
Well... Maybe in singapore or chine someone have a homevideo tape of some missing episodes... Its more possible because in some countries they screened B&W episodes in the 70s. By which remark you've just offended all our subscribers from the antipodes, since Australia and New Zealand were still broadcasting only in black-and-white until 1975. In fact the UK itself continued to broadcast in b&w until the 405-line transmitters were decommissioned in about 1985. Many people in the UK had b&w tv sets *long* after the broadcasts became available in colour, partly because a b&w licence was much cheaper than a colour one, and partly because colour sets were very expensive. There's some mad idea about that just because colour broadcasting began at Christmas 1969, the whole country was watching 'Spearhead from Space' in colour on 3rd Jan 1970. Well, that didn't happen.
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Post by Ed Brown on Aug 4, 2018 4:26:38 GMT
I still have the machine (looks NOTHING like the ones a few years later), it still works, but has horrid picture quality and eats tapes This isn't very convincing -- that description would fit ALL of the home video recorders sold in the 1960s and early 1970s. Especially the bit about the horrid picture quality.
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Post by Señor pinguino on Aug 4, 2018 8:09:49 GMT
Well... Maybe in singapore or chine someone have a homevideo tape of some missing episodes... Its more possible because in some countries they screened B&W episodes in the 70s. By which remark you've just offended all our subscribers from the antipodes, since Australia and New Zealand were still broadcasting only in black-and-white until 1975. In fact the UK itself continued to broadcast in b&w until the 405-line transmitters were decommissioned in about 1985. Many people in the UK had b&w tv sets *long* after the broadcasts became available in colour, partly because a b&w licence was much cheaper than a colour one, and partly because colour sets were very expensive. There's some mad idea about that just because colour broadcasting began at Christmas 1969, the whole country was watching 'Spearhead from Space' in colour on 3rd Jan 1970. Well, that didn't happen. Yes, You are right, sorry, with B&W episodes i Talk about William harnell and Patrick troughton episodes
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Post by Richard Marple on Aug 4, 2018 11:26:29 GMT
It wasn't until 1977 that the majority of viewers in the UK were watching TV in colour.
Even after that the elderly, poor & people with eyesight problems carried on watching in black & white, certainly there was a demand for large monochrome televisions well into the 1980s. Even when these stopped being made, TV engineers could switch off the colour circuits for those who only wanted to pay for a black & white licence.
While I cannot remember knowing anyone who had a B&W main set by 1982, many who could afford a 2nd set often had a B&W portable, sometimes into the 1990s.
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