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Post by richardwoods on Apr 14, 2018 16:53:41 GMT
Old TVs seemed have a habit of catching fire, especially early colour sets. Indeed, dual standard b/w circuits were under more stress than those in a standard 405 line set, switching between such different standards was challenging at the time, colour dual standard sets added even more potential grief. |
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Post by Jeff Leach on Aug 18, 2020 1:12:50 GMT
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Post by stevej on Aug 18, 2020 18:38:24 GMT
I've not seen this thread before and it's ringing a bit of a bell with me. Years ago I bought a load of open reel tapes at a car boot sale. They had the usual selection of off-air old home radio recordings and family snippets etc on them, all from the 60s. One in particular was in particularly good (VHF/FM) quality and consisted of the tail end of a fairly riotous (i.e. lots of screaming girls) pop concert. Over the fade-out the continuity announcer refers to 'the second BBC Beat Show' and I have a feeling he also mentions the Royal Albert Hall. I do recall he mentions the show was produced by Terry Henebery - would that fit?
After the Beat Show fades out, the announcer says that 'we are joining David Jacobs extra early'. Cut to David who mentions that 'Pick Of The Pops' will be along later and then proceeds to play a selection of records for 20 mins or so. From this I suppose we can deduce that the concert was broadcast on a Sunday afternoon and presumably ran considerably under it's the alloted time.
I do stil have that tape somewhere. I'm not sure how much of the concert is on it; from memory it's just literally the final couple of minutes. Presumably whoever was taping at home was hoping for 'Pick Of The Pops'
It would be interesting to know if this was indeed a fragment of 'Top Beat'. I wonder if I can find the tape!
Steve
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Post by Peter Stirling on Aug 19, 2020 8:00:49 GMT
Old TVs seemed have a habit of catching fire, especially early colour sets. Usually, there was a lot of warnings that things were not as they should be before an actual fire ie. the picture or sound would break down in some way, followed by acrid smells and then smoke. Most times that was enough to shut off the supply by breaking a fuse somewhere. However, many people had common sense enough in those days to unplug any electrical appliance that was acting suspiciously and that would immediately stop advancement towards a fire. There was an early colour set made by Bush that was nicknamed The burning bush, but don't know if it resulted in actual fires. |
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Post by Colin Anderton on Aug 19, 2020 8:26:09 GMT
O/T - but I always remember a letter in a newspaper in 1969 from a lady who wrote that her TV caught fire at the precise moment Apollo 11 lifted off from Cape Kennedy!
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Post by Richard Marple on Aug 19, 2020 9:08:42 GMT
Old TVs seemed have a habit of catching fire, especially early colour sets. Usually, there was a lot of warnings that things were not as they should be before an actual fire ie. the picture or sound would break down in some way, followed by acrid smells and then smoke. Most times that was enough to shut off the supply by breaking a fuse somewhere. However, many people had common sense enough in those days to unplug any electrical appliance that was acting suspiciously and that would immediately stop advancement towards a fire. There was an early colour set made by Bush that was nicknamed The burning bush, but don't know if it resulted in actual fires. Sets using the early Thorn 1600 chassis (badged Ferguson, Ultra, Baird and probably a few others for rental companies) had a reputation for catching fire due to dry joints in crucial places. Radio Rentals ended up withdrawing these sets and replacing them with refurbished TVs using the earlier 1500 chassis. As the market for large black & White sets were declining it seems Thorn were making the 1600s on the cheap. The design was updated to the 1615 chassis which solved this problem. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by williammcgregor on Aug 19, 2020 12:50:06 GMT
I've not seen this thread before and it's ringing a bit of a bell with me. Years ago I bought a load of open reel tapes at a car boot sale. They had the usual selection of off-air old home radio recordings and family snippets etc on them, all from the 60s. One in particular was in particularly good (VHF/FM) quality and consisted of the tail end of a fairly riotous (i.e. lots of screaming girls) pop concert. Over the fade-out the continuity announcer refers to 'the second BBC Beat Show' and I have a feeling he also mentions the Royal Albert Hall. I do recall he mentions the show was produced by Terry Henebery - would that fit?
After the Beat Show fades out, the announcer says that 'we are joining David Jacobs extra early'. Cut to David who mentions that 'Pick Of The Pops' will be along later and then proceeds to play a selection of records for 20 mins or so. From this I suppose we can deduce that the concert was broadcast on a Sunday afternoon and presumably ran considerably under it's the alloted time.
I do stil have that tape somewhere. I'm not sure how much of the concert is on it; from memory it's just literally the final couple of minutes. Presumably whoever was taping at home was hoping for 'Pick Of The Pops'
It would be interesting to know if this was indeed a fragment of 'Top Beat'. I wonder if I can find the tape! Steve
Steve Many thanks for your post - through your description of the your recording, the following seems to fit the bill.. from BBC Genome site Radio Light Programme Saturday 8 April 1961 21.00:BBC Beat Show presented by the Light Programme 22.15:EXTRA EARLY David Jacobs spins a few records you won't be hearing at 10.40 Contributors Unknown: David Jacobs 22.30:NEWS and SPORT 22.40:PICK OF THE POPS played by David Jacobs An up-to-the-min.ute survey of popular records featuring those currently climbing the Top Twenty and a review of the very latest releases Produced by Derek Chinnery Contributors Played By: David Jacobs Produced By: Derek Chinnery |
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Post by stevej on Aug 19, 2020 13:19:34 GMT
Great work William- thank you. The announcer definitely mentions joining David Jacobs 'extra early' so that all fits perfectly. Fascinating to know that this was actually scheduled as such. I think my recording runs from about 22.13 to 22.32 as I'm pretty sure it incudes the news but cuts off before POTP.
So of course now I'm wondering all about the 'BBC Beat Show'... 75 Minutes is quite a chunk to devote to the pop scene. It certainly sounds like it was a lively show from the tail end I have.
Steve
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Post by richardwoods on Aug 20, 2020 5:58:34 GMT
Old TVs seemed have a habit of catching fire, especially early colour sets. Usually, there was a lot of warnings that things were not as they should be before an actual fire ie. the picture or sound would break down in some way, followed by acrid smells and then smoke. Most times that was enough to shut off the supply by breaking a fuse somewhere. However, many people had common sense enough in those days to unplug any electrical appliance that was acting suspiciously and that would immediately stop advancement towards a fire. There was an early colour set made by Bush that was nicknamed The burning bush, but don't know if it resulted in actual fires. Ah, common sense, sadly missed! |
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Post by williammcgregor on Aug 20, 2020 12:30:30 GMT
Great work William- thank you. The announcer definitely mentions joining David Jacobs 'extra early' so that all fits perfectly. Fascinating to know that this was actually scheduled as such. I think my recording runs from about 22.13 to 22.32 as I'm pretty sure it incudes the news but cuts off before POTP. So of course now I'm wondering all about the 'BBC Beat Show'... 75 Minutes is quite a chunk to devote to the pop scene. It certainly sounds like it was a lively show from the tail end I have. Steve Hi Steve, There were 2 Beat Shows, the second being Saturday 22 April 1961 between 8pm -9pm and 10pm -10.15pm Grand Finale 20.00:BBC Beat Show presented by The Light Programme 21.00:SATURDAY CONCERT HALL from the Ulster Hall, Belfast In association with CEMA BBC Symphony Orchestra Leader. Paul Beard Conducted by Vilem Tausky Viennese Music Contributors Leader: Paul Beard Conducted By: Vilem Tausky 22.00:BBC BEAT SHOW (Continued) Grand Finale See above 22.15:EXTRA EARLY David Jacobs spins a few records you won't be hearing at 10.40 Contributors Unknown: David Jacobs 22.30:NEWS and SPORT 22.40:PICK OF THE POPS played by David Jacobs An up-to-the-minute survey of popular records featuring those currently climbing the Top Twenty and a review of the very latest releases Produced by Derek Chinnery Contributors Played By: David Jacobs Produced By: Derek Chinnery 23.55:LATE NEWS |
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Post by stevej on Aug 21, 2020 18:16:55 GMT
Once again, thank you William. Great to have that information.
Steve
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Post by williammcgregor on Aug 21, 2020 19:50:41 GMT
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Post by stevej on Aug 24, 2020 14:11:49 GMT
Just a slight side-step to conclude the story with regard to my old open-reel recording of the tail end of the 'BBC Beat Show' and complete David Jacobs' 'Extra Early' show. As the recording quality was so good, back in about 2001 I made a cassette copy of David's programme and sent it to him at the BBC, thinking he might enjoy hearing the show for the first time since it went out (in 1961). I included a brief covering letter with only my address on it, so was very surprised a few days later to receive a very charming message on my answerphone from the great man himself, thanking me for sending him the recording. He obviously went to the trouble of having someone look up my phone number so he could leave a personal message. What a nice chap.
Steve
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