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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 17, 2017 13:59:44 GMT
I was just contacted by a lady who's father was a member of No. 489 (NZ) Squadron with the RAF during WWII and he took part in a BBC broadcast to New Zealand and Australia on ANZAC Day 1945 (25th of April 1945). He was Navigator Harold Blampied who was the organist in this broadcast. She's trying to find out if a recording exists of that broadcast. She sent me a copy of the souvenir programme that her father had. It reads as follows: SOUVENIR PROGRAMME
OF
ANZAC
Commemoration Service
Held at R.A.F. Station, Dallachy, Scotland
APRIL 25TH, 1945
At 0645 hours (G.M.T.).
Service Broadcast to Australia and New Zealand by courtesy British Broadcasting Corporation
“OBSERVER” OFFICE, TENBY.
No. 455 SQUADRON
ROYAL AUSTRALIAN AIR FORCE
Commanding Officer – Wing Commander C. G. Milson, D.S.O., D.F.C.
No. 489 SQUADRON
ROYAL NEW ZEALAND AIR FORCE
Commanding Officer – Wing Commander D. H. Hammond, D.S.O., D.F.C.
ORGANIST
Flt Lt. H. H. Blampied D.F.C.
ORDER OF SERVICE
HYMN.
“O GOD OUR HELP IN AGES PAST”
PRAYER.
For the King, Empire and the World.
(Wing Commander D. H. Hammond, D.S.O., D.F.C.)
THE LESSON.
Air Vice-Marshal H. N. Wrigley, C.B.E., D.F.C., A.F.C.
ADDRESS.
Chaplain Squadron Leader R. C. Russell, R.A.A.F.
The Congregation will stand and repeat the following:
“They shall not grow old as we who are left grow old.
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.”
Anzac Prayer of Commemoration
To be said by all.
O Thou, who art heroic love, keep alive in our hearts, we pray
Thee, that adventurous spirit which makes men scorn the way of safety,
so that Thy will be done. We thank Thee this day for Thy grace
manifested in the men of Anzac, who, not counting their lives dear to
them freely gave them to the death in our defence, and who now serve
and glorify Thee within the veil. Make us glad in their living and by
their memory and teach and inspire us through their dying and by
their example.
Comfort and strengthen those, who in the days of their life, were
Nearest and dearest to them with the knowledge that they are with
Thee. Make us worthy of the heritage they so nobly handed to us and
Hasten the day when a righteous and lasting peace will be established
and the New World they fought and died for will unite all Thy people
everywhere in one household of faith and love, one family on earth as
in heaven; through Jesus Christ our Lord.
AMEN.
HYMN.
“O VALIANT HEARTS”
THE BLESSING. |
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Post by RWels on Jun 17, 2017 22:15:55 GMT
It would probably be on a transcription disc if it was....not much magnetic tape around in those days. Nazi Germany used tape during the war to relay broadcasts. (Just a half related fact, not related to this program, which would be on disc with a tiny possibility of a wire recording.) |
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Post by AndyWalmsley on Jun 18, 2017 16:41:09 GMT
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Post by Mark McKay on Jun 19, 2017 0:32:20 GMT
Looks like it was broadcast live to the colonies, e.g. trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/26059257 - wonder what the quality was like? Doesn't appear to be held by National Film & Sound Archive Australia or Nga Taonga NZ. |
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Post by Stephen Byers on Jun 19, 2017 11:45:52 GMT
Try the Internet Archive at Archive.org Also try the British Library Sound Archives - Cadensa sounds.bl.uk/ |
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Post by Stephen Byers on Jun 19, 2017 11:51:38 GMT
Its likely on a 78rpm record or set thereof of. Could be in any junk shop!! But a specialist 78rpm record dealer might be able to advise. There are also lots of 78rpm forums and groups on the web. A simple request to them all might elicit info. In the USA there's a massive database being built of 78rpm recordings. This from the ... 14 June 2017 Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <ARSCLIST@listserv.loc.gov> As part of the Great 78 Project for preservation, research, and discovery of 78rpm records: great78.archive.org/ ... Over the next couple of days the next batch of 78rpm transfers are being uploaded. The most-recent-first listing is here: archive.org/details/georgeblood?sort=-publicdate%20and[]=format:mp3These are mostly from the Barrie Thorpe Collection from Batavia Illinois Public Library Collection: archive.org/details/78rpm_thorpe&tab=aboutFor addicts (like me), we are working on a twitter feed of new uploads to the Great 78 Project: twitter.com/great78projectEnjoy! |
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Post by Stephen Byers on Jun 19, 2017 11:58:17 GMT
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Post by martinblampied on Jul 1, 2017 21:08:55 GMT
Hello,My name is Martin Blampied and I am following up on the post from Dave Homewood (below)regarding our attempts to locate a recording of the ANZAC Service Dave mentions, which was recorded by the BBC at the Dallachy Airforce station (Scotland) on 25th April 1945, and broadcast back live to New Zealand and Australia. My sister and I have searched all possible archive sources here in NZ and Australia but with no success. Our Father, Harold Blampied DFC (Beaufighter pilot with RNZAF 489 Squadron), was the organist for this service and flew off on operations to Norway hours after the service as his last operation from the Dallachy station. The recording would be a treasured part of the Squadron heritage if it could be located. We maintain an active 489 Squadron Association here in NZ with many family members engaged in maintaining the memory and history of the RNZAF 489 Squadron. Any suggestions or help Forum Members can provide would be greatly appreciated. Cheers - Martin Blampied |
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Post by RWels on Jul 1, 2017 23:02:11 GMT
Hello,My name is Martin Blampied and I am following up on the post from Dave Homewood (below)regarding our attempts to locate a recording of the ANZAC Service Dave mentions, which was recorded by the BBC at the Dallachy Airforce station (Scotland) on 25th April 1945, and broadcast back live to New Zealand and Australia. My sister and I have searched all possible archive sources here in NZ and Australia but with no success. Our Father, Harold Blampied DFC (Beaufighter pilot with RNZAF 489 Squadron), was the organist for this service and flew off on operations to Norway hours after the service as his last operation from the Dallachy station. The recording would be a treasured part of the Squadron heritage if it could be located. We maintain an active 489 Squadron Association here in NZ with many family members engaged in maintaining the memory and history of the RNZAF 489 Squadron. Any suggestions or help Forum Members can provide would be greatly appreciated. Cheers - Martin Blampied Unfortunately, chances don't seem to good yet. Sorry if this was already mentioned before, but has anyone contacted the BBC yet? |
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Post by Stephen Byers on Jul 2, 2017 8:43:15 GMT
Might be worth a trawl around the various local museums in NZ. I do remember that when we there a few years ago we saw a depressing number of old cylinders and 78s languishing amongst the dusty shelves and showcases. These could (should?) all be digitised a.s.a.p. But these little gems of museums probably don't have the resources, finances, nor even the expertise to do so. And how many working cylinder or 78 players still exist in NZ? Meanwhile I still think the best bet is to contact the NZBC Sound Archives in Christchurch (or wherever they are now).
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Post by RWels on Jul 2, 2017 20:44:01 GMT
Might be worth a trawl around the various local museums in NZ. I do remember that when we there a few years ago we saw a depressing number of old cylinders and 78s languishing amongst the dusty shelves and showcases. These could (should?) all be digitised a.s.a.p. But these little gems of museums probably don't have the resources, finances, nor even the expertise to do so. And how many working cylinder or 78 players still exist in NZ? Meanwhile I still think the best bet is to contact the NZBC Sound Archives in Christchurch (or wherever they are now). Totally unrelated to the OP request but somewhat related to missing content, do you suppose some of these places might also have vitaphone discs? |
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Post by Stephen Byers on Jul 2, 2017 22:44:21 GMT
These little gems of museums are scattered around New Zealand. They are formed by collections of donations from locals whose relatives are having a clear out after untimely passings. I guess lacking the equipment upon which to play cylinders / 78s etc. such items are simply displayed and gather dust. A friend of mine was canoe / kayak camping down the Wanganui River a few years back. Along the River there are like trampers' huts for simply overnight accommodations. At the rear of one in the under growth, near Pipiriki I believe, he found a discarded Edison cylinder player sans horn. Wouldn't have a clue about Vitaphone discs though - the experts of such can be found at the LOC sponsored mail list at: Ass'n for Recorded Sound Discussion <ARSCLIST@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV> |
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Post by tombeveridge on Jul 3, 2017 0:59:37 GMT
Vitaphone or cylinders would seem to be improbable media for a recording in 1945. A bit too early for tapes or are recordings, so some sort of transcription disc(s) would be most likely. Graeme Stevenson, who posts on this forum (see his message two topics below this one) has many connections throughout old-time radio. Might be worth shooting him a private message?? Good luck!
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Post by Stephen Byers on Jul 3, 2017 10:11:45 GMT
RE: [Nz-folk] Sound Archives ex-Christchurch Nga Taonga Sound & Vision www.ngataonga.org.nz/www.ngataonga.org.nz/collections/searchNon-governmental organization in Christchurch, New Zealand Address: 324 Cashel St, Christchurch Central, Christchurch 8011 Phone: 03-374 8468 Even if the archives do not have this recording they might be able to help to track it down. |
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Post by martinblampied on Jul 8, 2017 2:02:59 GMT
Thanks Stephen and others - below is a reply from the Airforce Museum NZ who have been very helpful. So i'll keep trawling. I believe we have also drawn a blank with BBC Sound Archives Cheers "Kia ora Martin, Thank you for your enquiry. Please accept our apologies for the delay in getting back to you. I have checked our holdings in terms of sound recordings. Unfortunately, as I suspected we do not hold a recording of this broadcast. Our holdings in this area are not large and we are not a recognised place of deposit for such thing. A check of the Imperial War Museum, Archives New Zealand and Taonga Sound and Vision have all drawn a blank. I wonder if the BBC archives could help as the originating maker? I suspect you have tried them already but if not, here is a link to their archive which is now held by the British Universities Film and Video Council: bufvc.ac.uk/archives/index.php/collection/62Sorry we can’t produce the recording for you – I wish we had it to go with the Order of Service. Kind Regards Simon Moody Research Curator Research Team AIR FORCE MUSEUM OF NEW ZEALAND Registered with the Charities Commission – CC20363 |
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