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Post by Leighton on Oct 11, 2003 14:50:15 GMT
I have just read that the daleks made an appearance in OUT OF THE UNKNOWN in an episode called "get off my cloud" and it was broadcast on bbc2 in colour on 1 April 1969. This must be the first time we ever saw the daleks in colour on bbc, excluding the films of course. Is this still held at the archives or was it wiped. Apparently the Tardis was in it as well What can you guys tell me? Why not add it to a dvd release if we still have it!
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Post by David Buck on Oct 11, 2003 15:17:41 GMT
The episode in question is amongst the missing episodes of that series ; a few off-air audio extracts exist, including the dalek sequence I believe
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Post by Colin Cutler on Oct 13, 2003 5:53:44 GMT
Full details of the episode ( although sadly the surviving documentation is somewhat fragmentary, making the term 'complete' somewhat erroneous! Errors or omissions to the article are therefore gratefully received! ) can be found at : www.the-mausoleum-club.org.uk/Out_Of_The_Unknown/articles/get_off_my_cloud.htmThis also includes details of the surviving audio clips - including the Dalek sequence that David refers to. Colin
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Post by Lleighton on Oct 13, 2003 10:58:04 GMT
Anyone know who provided the dalek voices and who were the dalek operators, and how many daleks were used? Any models, what colour were they? was there a gold one like in 1971 for day of the daleks can we listen to the audio any where? cheers Leighton
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Post by Leighton on Oct 13, 2003 11:01:20 GMT
Just clicked onto the mauseleum site. very good thanks! Anyone remeber it? Leighton
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Post by john g on Oct 13, 2003 13:44:38 GMT
Talking of 'out of the unknown' . Has anyone seen in recent years 'to lay a ghost' . I remember it had quite an ingenious way of showing the ghost . Looking back this must have been quite difficult to achieve with 1960/70s VT technology, especially a tracking shot which follows the ghost up the staircase. This only from memory for me, so i wonder if somebody looking at it today would say if it has stood the test of time?
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Post by William Martin on Oct 13, 2003 16:09:19 GMT
if the daleks was on film then there is achance of something surviving on film
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Post by Andy Henderson on Oct 13, 2003 19:48:35 GMT
"if the daleks was on film then there is achance of something surviving on film"
Hopefully not held in the clutches of a mad Doctor Who fan.........
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Post by Colin Cutler on Oct 14, 2003 6:06:22 GMT
Anyone know who provided the dalek voices and who were the dalek operators, and how many daleks were used? Any models, what colour were they? was there a gold one like in 1971 for day of the daleks can we listen to the audio any where? cheers Leighton Well, for the factual record, we had the familiar likes of Kevin Manser, Murphy Grumbar and Robert Jewell strutting their stuff in the 3 Dalek props utilised for the play, with Peter Hawkins again providing the voices. Their appearance was shot on 35mm colour film at the BBC's Ealing Film facilities circa late July/early August 1968 ( the play entered the studio later that month ). Haven't come across any photos from this part of the Ealing film shoot unfortunately - designer Ray Cusick doesn't seem to have retained anything either. The audio excerpt is *very* brief ( approx 12 secs ) and picks up on the nightmare scene where the young boy takes an 'imaginary' gun from a picture frame, and begins shooting at the chanting Daleks as they enter his bedroom ( who are then heard 'wailing' in retreat ). Sadly, that's all there is from this particular sequence ( unless Andy H's "mad fan" proves me wrong :-) ) Colin
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Post by Colin Cutler on Oct 14, 2003 6:23:24 GMT
Talking of 'out of the unknown' . Has anyone seen in recent years 'to lay a ghost' . I remember it had quite an ingenious way of showing the ghost . Looking back this must have been quite difficult to achieve with 1960/70s VT technology, especially a tracking shot which follows the ghost up the staircase. This only from memory for me, so i wonder if somebody looking at it today would say if it has stood the test of time? On a roll now anyway ( since replying to the first part of the thread ), so I'd thought I'd stick in my tuppence worth ( and probably stick my timid neck out, given its a much maligned play ) and say that on several levels the production has stood the test of time reasonably well. The ethics of the basic storyline have been frequently "debated" over the years ( including, if I recall rightly, a fairly long thread on this forum ), but on the purely technical front - design, location filming and Ken Hannam's wonderfully tight direction - it really is nice on the eye. And anything with Peter Barkworth in is bound to get the thumbs up from me anyway - he really is quite good in this particular role. As for editing - yes, a logistical nightmare I would imagine, even by 1970 standards. I don't think I've come across anything else from this era with so many recording breaks for a 50 minute drama. Colin
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Post by john g on Oct 14, 2003 10:04:20 GMT
thanks Colin. In the last series i found the title sequence most disturbing at the time, although not so today having seen them on the tv ark site.
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Post by William Martin on Oct 14, 2003 15:53:11 GMT
"if the daleks was on film then there is achance of something surviving on film" Hopefully not held in the clutches of a mad Doctor Who fan......... if it is its gone, some of these people would rather eat it than share it
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Post by Andy Henderson on Oct 14, 2003 23:18:57 GMT
or like the recent one who sent in to '405 Alive' mutilated strips of missing programmes in a fit of spite?
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