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Post by Dave Wood on May 2, 2016 18:51:27 GMT
Anything would be welcome, but I'd love to see the post-regeneration Tardis sequence and the Dalek Production lines from Power of the Daleks. The Dalek civil war on Skaro would high on my wishlist too, as it would be interesting to see how they managed it on a TV budget, likewise the sacking of Troy from The Myth Makers and the Time Destructor sequence from The Daleks' Masterplan.
I reckon the film inserts for The Smugglers, The Highlanders and Fury from the Deep could be very interesting too.
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Post by alanreilly1978 on May 2, 2016 21:32:02 GMT
I would love to see more of oak and quill from fury,as i believe they would frighten the adults as well as the children to see there antics,phsychotic laurel and hardy as they were once described,listen to audio cassette.
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Post by Richard Develyn on May 3, 2016 8:16:25 GMT
The Tricoleur scenes from Evil part 1, because even if they found the episode they'd probably cut them out due to copyright issues with the background music.
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on May 5, 2016 20:09:16 GMT
The Tricoleur scenes from Evil part 1, because even if they found the episode they'd probably cut them out due to copyright issues with the background music. Wasn't the background music The Beatles? The music would have to be cut because The Beatles are notoriously litigious. The background music was replaced for the BBC audio release.
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Post by johnstewart on May 6, 2016 8:26:34 GMT
Interesting question. I would likely opt for something interesting from episode 6 of abominable snowmen. Some of the bits that don't have much visual representation via telesnaps etc. I have always suspected, perhaps in error, that there would have been some sections of fury that would feature trippy camerawork or editing (think the clip with Oak and Quill). I would like to see more of this to see if this is the case, but without having seen it, it is kinda hard to say which bits................ I agree about Abominable snowmen 6. In terms of whether anything would turn up; and that we would be likely to see it; I guess unless it was censored we would be considering filmed bits. In that case the filmed sequence at the end where they say goodbye to Travers and see a 'real' yeti was filmed and was a classic memory for me. In terms of censored footage I'm quite surprised they didn't snip parts of the Padmevhasba ( ? - spelling - ? ) dissolving sequence. It was pretty Hammer Dracula as well as being psychological. Quill and Oak.I recall the lead up to the existing bit where they roll their sleeves up to show each other they have weed on their arms. They were made up with pasty white make up and gave each other a ghastly smile. The censors obviously chose to leave as much information as possible in whilst chopping what they considered over the top. In the telesnaps there are some weird camera angles where Jamie encountering the weed is seen from a low angle like the weed creatures viewpoint. I don't seem to recall anything like fish eye filters; the story seemed to use standard BBC Dr Who stuff for that time. By that I mean wide angle, film stock for exterior shots etc. Don't recall camera burn out or negative being used in this story. Fade and mix on vision mix used in the existing Quill and Oak clip is unusual. And it also seems to touch the edge of what Hugh David, the Director was asked not to do. He said in an interview he wanted to pan right into the black inside the actors mouths.
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Post by johnstewart on May 6, 2016 8:29:29 GMT
The Tricoleur scenes from Evil part 1, because even if they found the episode they'd probably cut them out due to copyright issues with the background music. Wasn't the background music The Beatles? The music would have to be cut because The Beatles are notoriously litigious. The background music was replaced for the BBC audio release. Wasn't 'Ticket to ride' in THE CHASE release though? There was a 'top six' EP release of Paperback writer at the time covered by a soundalike band so they could use that if the song itself not the band was the problem.
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Post by johnstewart on May 6, 2016 8:34:14 GMT
The sequence (that I know only from reading the novelisation of Power) where the daleks reassure the human colony leader that "we are your servants" ... Yeah, right. I think the bit I'd definitely like to see is the conveyer belt sequence. It was all on film and pretty psychological as well as a bit gruesome so surprised it wasn't edited by overseas censors. You would think that would double chances of survival especially if the rumour that the film inserts were still in the Archive in 1981 were true? Aside from that story the 'Evil of the Daleks' end battle was also quite gruesome; albeit it wasn't human entrails simulated. That I recall being electronic (VT); but cutaway shots being film maybe as many used the Louis Marx toy Daleks.
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Post by Richard Develyn on May 6, 2016 10:44:13 GMT
The Tricoleur scenes from Evil part 1, because even if they found the episode they'd probably cut them out due to copyright issues with the background music. Wasn't the background music The Beatles? The music would have to be cut because The Beatles are notoriously litigious. The background music was replaced for the BBC audio release. I'm pretty sure the whole scene ward replaced first time it was released. Richard
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Post by Richard Marple on May 6, 2016 12:47:50 GMT
I remember the Tricolor scenes really featured on the audio tape releases.
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Post by Richard Develyn on May 6, 2016 13:27:21 GMT
Ok, so I think what I meant to say was "I'm pretty sure the whole scene *was removed* ..."
And I think what you meant to say way "the Tricoleur scenes were *rarely* featured ..."
But anyway :-)
Richard
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Post by lousingh on May 6, 2016 14:37:14 GMT
The Tricoleur scenes from The Evil of the Daleks may be something that could be kept if the rights to the performances had already been negotiated with the BBC. For instance, if the Beatles' recordings were from, say, "The Beatles at the Beeb", then BBC already have negotiated something with Apple Records and the Beatles' estates, so almost certainly, that would be OK. In fact, they probably could just pull a straight substitution of recordings if they wanted to.
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Post by Richard Bignell on May 6, 2016 15:52:30 GMT
Wasn't the background music The Beatles? The music would have to be cut because The Beatles are notoriously litigious. The background music was replaced for the BBC audio release. I'm pretty sure the whole scene ward replaced first time it was released. Richard On the original 1992 cassette version, they cut both coffee bar scenes entirely. For the 2003 CD version, both scenes were reinstated, but the second one with 'Paperback Writer' in the background had the track painstakingly replaced with 'Hold Tight'. However, the situation that made these changes necessary altered several years ago, so I understand that the episode could be released without issue now.
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Post by Richard Marple on May 6, 2016 16:57:45 GMT
I thought so, it's been nearly 20 years since I listened to it, not long after I read the novel, so they are a bit mixed up in my mind.
I'm trying to visualise Jamie putting lots of sugar in his coffee to make it more drinkable.
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Post by Darren Jones on May 6, 2016 22:19:16 GMT
The sequence (that I know only from reading the novelisation of Power) where the daleks reassure the human colony leader that "we are your servants" ... Yeah, right. I think the bit I'd definitely like to see is the conveyer belt sequence. It was all on film and pretty psychological as well as a bit gruesome so surprised it wasn't edited by overseas censors. You would think that would double chances of survival especially if the rumour that the film inserts were still in the Archive in 1981 were true? I thought parts of that sequence survived or am I mixing it up with the 'Daleks conquer and destroy' clip?
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Post by johnstewart on May 10, 2016 21:21:22 GMT
No you're correct. But it's just two brief shots I think of the model Daleks. The film sequence in the show began from the point after Lesterton wakes and is creeping down a corridor inside the Dalek spaceship. He then encounters an inspection panel with steam condensation on it. Wiping it he looks through and sees the Dalek reproduction plant. He then pulls a face as if he's cracking up. putting a hand in his mouth and flees back the way he came. All of this was on film.
The bits where the sieve on a Daleks arm holding a Dalek creature is seen are from episode 6 where the plant is blown up. If I'm right the special effects department or similar had the shots in their own archive. They do show the same set though in less detail than earlier.
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