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Post by Nigel Lamb on Aug 20, 2015 17:40:16 GMT
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Post by Alan Turrell on Aug 20, 2015 17:54:16 GMT
Agree with everything you say Alan re Radio Stations.Have you listened to Roger Day's station Uncool Radio? I'm sure from what you say the station would be perfect for you.It's superb.Roger was on Radio Caroline,RNi,Luxembourg and loads of others.He Knows his stuff and produces great shows,playing the music the other stations don't. Interesting Stuart i've never listened to uncool radio sounds my kind of thing ,yes i well remember Roger Day on radio Caroline good to hear he's still going i'll see if i can find the station. |
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Post by stevej on Aug 20, 2015 18:31:10 GMT
Yes, I think that light entertainment in the late 60s had an exciting edge to it. The orchestras were playing out of their skins, to keep up with changing times.
Absolutely agree Tony. I'd love to hear the memories of some of the regular musicians or sound technicians from around that time. There's a certain almost indefinable studio sound that existed for a short window of time, say 1967-70, but which anyone with a keen ear can recognize. I remember being blown away when I first saw a 1970 b&w TOTP performance of The Temptations performing 'I Can't Get Next To You' which barrels along at a great pace. When I finally found the official Motown version, it was disappointingly slow and lumpen. Like driving a car with the choke out! All the Cilla/Dusty/Lulu/Cliff etc Saturday evening shows had musical arrangement and production that for me remains unsurpassed. Here's one of my favourite examples- Aretha Franklin on Lulu's show in 1970. A telerecording sadly, but even so the quality of the resident orchestra (and vocal backing) shines through. If you are listening on decent speakers, check out the bass playing. Nice camera direction too, making us subtly aware that we are hearing a real orchestra in the studio. www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc0bHrffNrE |
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Post by Peter Stirling on Aug 20, 2015 22:49:52 GMT
Yes, I think that light entertainment in the late 60s had an exciting edge to it. The orchestras were playing out of their skins, to keep up with changing times.
Absolutely agree Tony. I'd love to hear the memories of some of the regular musicians or sound technicians from around that time. There's a certain almost indefinable studio sound that existed for a short window of time, say 1967-70, but which anyone with a keen ear can recognize. I remember being blown away when I first saw a 1970 b&w TOTP performance of The Temptations performing 'I Can't Get Next To You' which barrels along at a great pace. When I finally found the official Motown version, it was disappointingly slow and lumpen. Like driving a car with the choke out! All the Cilla/Dusty/Lulu/Cliff etc Saturday evening shows had musical arrangement and production that for me remains unsurpassed. Here's one of my favourite examples- Aretha Franklin on Lulu's show in 1970. A telerecording sadly, but even so the quality of the resident orchestra (and vocal backing) shines through. If you are listening on decent speakers, check out the bass playing. Nice camera direction too, making us subtly aware that we are hearing a real orchestra in the studio. www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc0bHrffNrE/quote That is my favourite (and to me definitive) version of 'I say a Little prayer' the Temptations too. Probably like others when I first saw these, I thought why is this so fantastic and then realised its the orchestra pounding along with the singers lapping it up that is making a bit of magic there.. Over on ATV there was Jack Parnell and Derek Scott who produced some thumping 'Americanised' arrangements ..wonderful stuff. |
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Post by stuartg on Aug 21, 2015 7:36:18 GMT
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Post by Alan Turrell on Aug 21, 2015 16:16:39 GMT
Blimey he's just played a track from the brand new Pretty Things Album thanks Stuart this is for me.
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Post by Tony Walshaw on Aug 22, 2015 8:12:32 GMT
It is very true - they seem to want 'generic' sounding songs to suit non-music fans of all ages, who don't know when they were recorded. In regards to Cilla, they are appealing to 'Blind Date' fans.
Music tends to be revived when it is around 25-30 years old. Thus as far as 'retro' goes, the late 60s grooviness is not in vogue, as compared to say how it was in the 90s. This aspect of Cilla's career will be overlooked by the programmers, who will stick with the trends.
One thing about Chris Evans, he plays the game a lot of the time, but sometimes still has his own discretion, which is good.
Absolutely agree Tony. There's a certain almost indefinable studio sound that existed for a short window of time, say 1967-70, but which anyone with a keen ear can recognize. I remember being blown away when I first saw a 1970 b&w TOTP performance of The Temptations performing 'I Can't Get Next To You' which barrels along at a great pace. When I finally found the official Motown version, it was disappointingly slow and lumpen. Like driving a car with the choke out! Yes I know that sound you mean, it was at its peak around the years you mention. The orchestra letting their hair down, accompanied by keyboards and lead guitar, and always underpinned by a distinctive bass line. Exciting stuff that is of its time. It can only be from the late 60s. Probably because it is 'of its time' is why it the BBC avoided it when compiling Cilla's career highlights.
They did play 'Something Tells Me (Somethings Gonna Happen Tonight)' which is in the same vein but watered down (given that styles were moving on in the early 70s). It has also been in (at least one) advert so is probably 'suitable' for the audience.
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Post by stuartg on Aug 22, 2015 19:21:46 GMT
Enjoy Uncool Radio Alan!
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Post by chrisstratton on Aug 23, 2015 6:12:33 GMT
Check out 'Abyssinian secret' which was originally on the 7" ep 'time for cilla' in 1968 but it's featured on an vinyl album I Bought in 1986 called 'Liverpool 1963-1968' (which I still have)....it also features a great version the Beatles track 'for no one'
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