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Post by richardwoods on Apr 18, 2015 19:12:05 GMT
Does anyone know if the footage of Cozy Powell performing Dance With The Devil from TOTP exists? Can't find anything on You Tube. I hope this isn't lost.
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Post by Liam Joseph on Apr 19, 2015 9:29:25 GMT
There's footage of him performing it on the show backed by Pan's People, in the 'Private Video Library' I think. I haven't seen it either (though would love to as I bought the single after seeing him on TOTP) and it is not held by the BBC.
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Post by garyhaggarty on Apr 19, 2015 10:06:30 GMT
The one accompanied by Pan's People was shown (in pristine condition) at Kaleidoscope in 2013 www.kaleidoscope.org.uk/ which was one of my personal highlights from this particular event. |
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Post by richardwoods on Apr 19, 2015 17:14:59 GMT
The one accompanied by Pan's People was shown (in pristine condition) at Kaleidoscope in 2013 www.kaleidoscope.org.uk/ which was one of my personal highlights from this particular event. Hi Gary, thanks for the info. Do you if it is available to view anywhere? |
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Post by garyhaggarty on Apr 19, 2015 18:05:40 GMT
I wish! I'm sure Ray would know more about this but I believe it was shown as part of a Bob Pratt compilation (which also included Family's The Weaver's Answer from TOTP 1970) that is, as far as I know, back in the hands of the BBC.
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Post by Liam Joseph on Apr 20, 2015 8:48:14 GMT
^ Didn't know Dance with the Devil (and The Weaver's Answer) were both back with the BBC, Gary. If they do have them it would be nice to actually see them!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 9:03:57 GMT
Cozy Powell's "Dance With The Devil" (accompanied by Pan's People) from Top Of The Pops 13.12.1973 was shown at Kaleidoscope's 'Pop Around The Clock' event on 1st June 2013. It was part of a special compilation of rare and previously missing routines called "The Lost Performances". The clips were rediscovered by Kaleidoscope in the collection of record producer and songwriter Ian Levine. www.petford.net/kaleidoscope/pop-around-the-clock-01-06-2013.htmlBy the way, Family's "The Weaver's Answer" has always been at the BBC and is among the Bob Pratt tapes. It was also shown at the same Kaleidoscope event as part of a compilation of rarely seen footage called "The Cutting Room Floor". |
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Post by garyhaggarty on Apr 20, 2015 10:17:14 GMT
Cheers Mike, that was the page (which I've now bookmarked!) I was trying to find. Pan's People dancing to Montego Bay was featured among the Cutting Room Floor footage & Dance With the Devil in the Lost Performances. And yes, I agree, it's high time the BBC pieced together a brand new 'old' compilation of clips (including Roxy Music's Street Life) preferably in the style of the 1991 editions of Sounds of the Sixties where they gave you a brief synopsis of all the artists that featured at the END of the show & NOT during their performance.
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Post by richardmarson on Apr 20, 2015 20:09:08 GMT
The lost Pan's People clips were not sourced from Ian Levine's collection at all. He is baffled as to why Kaleidescope allowed this falsehood to be perpetrated.
It's my understanding that they actually came from another private collector who specifically recorded PP performances from 1973 onwards - and good thing too.
But nothing to do with Ian.
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Post by John Green on Apr 20, 2015 20:50:51 GMT
The lost Pan's People clips were not sourced from Ian Levine's collection at all. He is baffled as to why Kaleidescope allowed this falsehood to be perpetrated. It's my understanding that they actually came from another private collector who specifically recorded PP performances from 1973 onwards - and good thing too. But nothing to do with Ian. Good grief,Richard.I regularly read his tweets,and was expecting him to refer to these at the time.Has he commented publicly about this? |
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Post by Jeff Leach on Apr 21, 2015 1:28:16 GMT
If I recall correctly - It was a man of the cloth - A reverend who had recorded the Pans People clips although Ian Levine did donate a large number of tapes to Kal around the same time.
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Post by stuartg on Apr 21, 2015 7:27:11 GMT
Can anyone tell me why rare items are given back to the BBC and then possibly never seen by music fans?
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Apr 21, 2015 8:37:32 GMT
Can anyone tell me why rare items are given back to the BBC and then possibly never seen by music fans? Many items are given back to Kaleidoscope who are more than happy for the BBC (or whoever the broadcaster is) to use them. The broadcasters rarely use much, regrettably. I contacted the BBC directly in regard to the Jean Genie and Stuck in the Middle with You and got them shown. The Head of BBC Four Music was the guy I emailed and met with later on. We had a polite difference of opinion over my suggestion (with performance breakdowns and examples) of several shows dedicated to missing/rare TOTP performances. In fairness he showed a few clips (which he said at the meeting he would), examples being Bus Stop and Coz I Love You. I may contact him again with a list of performances, with a DVD enclosed to show what's out there. I haven't given up. |
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Post by Liam Joseph on Apr 21, 2015 10:12:37 GMT
Can't understand why the BBC are against these missing/rare programmes as they would surely be quite cheap to do. And when BBC4 showed the Big Hits 1964-1975 compilation it got one of their biggest audiences I think and has been repeated several times since, so there seems to be an audience demand for these kind of shows.
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Post by richardmarson on Apr 21, 2015 10:16:06 GMT
If I recall correctly - It was a man of the cloth - A reverend who had recorded the Pans People clips although Ian Levine did donate a large number of tapes to Kal around the same time. Not as far as I know but I know he was entirely baffled by the assertion. "I hated Pan's People!" he barked at me, which made me laugh a lot - Ian is very definite about what he does and doesn't like, as most know! Yes, I believe the actual collector was a vicar (?!) who loved the girls and so stacked up this invaluable archive of their work. As for Mark Cooper, the head of Music, I could tell a long and involvced story about the skullduggery and political shenanigans surrounding the screening of John Henshall's Jean Genie recording but it's probably best that I don't! |
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