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Post by Craig Halliday on Mar 4, 2006 13:05:03 GMT
Very interesting. Thanks.
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Post by Ian on Mar 4, 2006 20:46:19 GMT
"Nothing remains of popular 60s programmes such as 'Francie & Josie' (two Glaswegian Teddy Boys). Some good news is that at least one enthusiast taped these on reel to reel. All of these recordings are in private hands"
What ! u mean someone out there has copies of " the adventures of francie and josie " , i read in the recent script book that Stv for some reason wiped them all which was strange because it got more viewers than coronation street !
If someone does have them does anyone know if they are prepared to give them up to Stv ?
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Post by Andy Henderson on Mar 4, 2006 22:46:14 GMT
Yes to the first question and no, STV don't want them. I only have two episodes. They don't appear to have been wiped, but certainly lost in the 1969 fire.
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Post by Ian on Mar 4, 2006 23:37:10 GMT
Thanks for the reply , i find it very strange that stv dont want them especially when they would more than likely a good money spinner for release onto Dvd !
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Mar 5, 2006 15:39:16 GMT
Some of STVs pre 1969 football archive has also survived but this is sporadic and has no consistency in the examples preserved (ie some Cup Finals lost but low scoring league matches kept). I am told they have no interest in recovering lost matches either so it is safe to assume STV is fairly low down the list of companies who wish to recover material.
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Post by Ian on Mar 5, 2006 15:44:15 GMT
That is such a pity that stv are not interested in lost episodes as i for one would love to see some of those " adventures of francie and joise " shows ( i think there is a huge demand for them episodes as the current dvds seem to sell well )
Maybey its time to start a campaign to get stv to recover them !!
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Post by Andy Henderson on Mar 5, 2006 16:44:43 GMT
They are almost certainly gone for good (unless someone took a recording home). No overseas potential. BBC Scotland have a selection of b/w comedy.
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Post by Craig Halliday on Mar 5, 2006 18:53:06 GMT
. . . including at least one of Lex McLean's shows, as I remember seeing a repeat of a 1970 effort. He made programmes for BBC television from 1968 to 1972 so perhaps some of them were in colour. I don't know how BBC Scotland's output from that era has been affected by junking, though.
STV's archive-search facility seems to be out of action on their web site. Unless they've moved it and I'm too dim to find it. I don't suppose there will be much left of their multi-storey soap opera High Living. Now THAT would be an interesting piece of social history - a reflection of life in a rapidly-changing Glasgow.
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Post by Andy Henderson on Mar 5, 2006 20:07:26 GMT
Nothing left of 'High Living'. The BBC Scotland archive has quite a bit of b/w tape, including the Lex McLean programmes. The one you mentioned is 'The Home Banker'. It stands up extremely well and is much more aggressive and lively than many of the traditional London based sitcoms. They did move into colour and I've seen a clip, but no idea if this is just a clip.
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Post by Craig Halliday on Mar 6, 2006 18:55:26 GMT
Shame about High Living. I suppose we'll just have to be satisfied with Garnock Way and (Take) The High Road.
A few editions of Thingummyjig are still knocking around. They showed a clip of Fran and Anna on the occasion of the former's demise, although the picture quality was decidedly dodgy. I'd like to think that STV are taking care of their archive material nowadays, wherever the stuff happens to be kept. Not that neglect is necessarily the reason for any deterioration, of course.
I wish I hadn't read this thread because all sorts of STV programmes I remember as a kid in the Seventies are coming into my head. For example: a show starring Larry Marshall which was shown, if I remember correctly, just before Space 1999. The only thing I recall about it is Mr Marshall asking the studio audience how many of them were optimists and how many of them were pessimists. That was when I first learned the meanings of those two words. And who says TV is chewing gum for the eyes?
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Post by Ian on Mar 6, 2006 20:33:02 GMT
Does Glen Michaels Cavalcade still exist , used to watch that religously every sunday before British relay decided to drop stv in favour of channel 4 ( used to get grampian and stv on this early cable tv ! )
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Post by kerrya on Aug 3, 2006 16:20:19 GMT
Hello there Bit new to this but does anyone know how many of Brights Boffins exist? Thanks for your kind attention K
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Post by aidan Lunn on Aug 4, 2006 10:31:26 GMT
How was the STV fire caused anyway?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2006 21:37:31 GMT
Wouldn't be suprised to find it was Nitrate Film. That stuff has caused a hell of a lot of archive fires over the years. It's very flammable, and almost impossible to extinguish (even if you put the whole reel underwater).
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Post by BPearce on Aug 6, 2006 5:17:42 GMT
Wouldn't be suprised to find it was Nitrate Film. That stuff has caused a hell of a lot of archive fires over the years. It's very flammable, and almost impossible to extinguish (even if you put the whole reel underwater). Given that Nitrate Film had fallen out of favor by the early 1950s (and more stable film stock had come into use as far back as the 1920s), I doubt that would have been much of a concern for a television archive, unless such material was stored alongside film from other sources. While on that subject, here's a sample of nitrate film burning underwater: www.film-tech.com/warehouse/trailers/nitrate/nitrate2.mpg
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