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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 10:06:02 GMT
The following are just a few examples of British fare that Australians were watching. These were not the only British fare that was shown that day. It makes us wonder what was being shown on the other days of the week. This I think was for just one part of Australia, did the other parts get other British fare. I have only looked at the years 1959-69 and not put down everything British that was shown that day. I will leave it to the rest of us, to look at the others on those days and the years prior to 1959 and after 1969, to tell us what they find 1. Sunday 5 February 1961 Melbourne ABV2 7.30pm Boyd QC 8pm 2. Monday 27 March 1961 Melbourne ABV2 7.30pm Whacko-O 8pm. 9pm No Hiding Place 9.50pm. 3. Friday 27 April 1962 Victoria ABV2 8pm No Hiding Place 8.45pm. 4. Saturday 30 November 1963 Melbourne ABV2 8pm Boyd QC 8.30pm. 5. Monday 3 August 1964 Melbourne ABV2 6.30pm Benny Hill Show 7pm. 8pm Maigret 8.50pm. HSV7 7.30pm Thank Your Lucky Stars.6. Monday 7 September 1964 Melbourne HSV7 7.30pm Thank Your Lucky Stars. 8pm. 7. Sunday 11 October 1964 Victoria 12pm Notre Ville 12.15pm. 8. Monday 5 April 1965 Victoria 6.25pm The Benny Hill Show. 7pm. 7.30pm - Z Cars 8pm. 9. Tuesday 22 June 1965 Melbourne ATV0 10.45pm Emergency Ward 10 11.15pm. 10. Saturday 27 November 1965 Victoria GMV6 Shepparton 9.50pm No Hiding Place 10.40pm. 11. Saturday 25 December 1965 Victoria GMV6 Shepparton 9.50pm No Hiding Place 10.40pm. 12. Friday 24 March 1967 Victoria ABV2 5.35pm Crackerjack Comedy Playhouse Z Cars 8pm. Albury + 7 other regionals. 8.30pm Blackmail 9.15pm 13. Monday 10 April 1967 Victoria 3.30pm Frankie Howerd Show 3.55pm. 14. Tuesday 6 June 1967 Victoria 5.30pm Hey Presto It's Rolf 6pm. AMV4 Albury 10.15pm No Hiding Place 11pm. 15. Thursday 15 June 1967 Melbourne ABV2 5.30pm Hey Presto It's Rolf 6pm. 16. Monday 13 May 1968 Victoria ABV2 1.30pm Z Cars. 2.20pm 5.20pm DOCTOR WHO 5.45pm. Hey Presto It's Rolf.17. Wednesday 12 February 1969 Victoria ABV2 8pm The Very Merry Widow. 8.31pm. source www.televisionau.com/classic-tv-guides
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 22:26:29 GMT
The Very Merry Widow made by the BBC, may not be too familiar to some of you. 13 episodes were made, 11 are Missing, one exists on a format inferior to the original and the other is an incomplete episode. Here it is 15/1/68 A Treble Chance Would Be A Fine Thing. The Very Merry Widow was played by Moira Lister, also in this incomplete episode is Terry Scott, Peter Bayliss and spot the very young Sally Thomsett. www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyB9QYTDM5I
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Post by John Green on Nov 9, 2014 22:33:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 22:39:21 GMT
John, did you also find The Very Merry Widow 1967-1968 2 series on Lostshows as well?
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Post by John Green on Nov 9, 2014 23:30:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 8:36:50 GMT
The following are just a few examples of British fare that Australians were watching. These were not the only British fare that was shown that day. It makes us wonder what was being shown on the other days of the week. This I think was for just one part of Australia, did the other parts get other British fare. I have only looked at the years 1959-69 and not put down everything British that was shown that day. Interesting range of material there, Simon. Thanks for posting details. I'm firmly convinced that there will still be much missing Rediffusion and ABC programming abroad to be found. It's just that there's never been a proper concerted effort to track it down (in the way there has for one or two individual shows such as Dr. Who).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 13:04:13 GMT
The following are just a few examples of British fare that Australians were watching. These were not the only British fare that was shown that day. It makes us wonder what was being shown on the other days of the week. This I think was for just one part of Australia, did the other parts get other British fare. I have only looked at the years 1959-69 and not put down everything British that was shown that day. Interesting range of material there, Simon. Thanks for posting details. I'm firmly convinced that there will still be much missing Rediffusion and ABC programming abroad to be found. It's just that there's never been a proper concerted effort to track it down (in the way there has for one or two individual shows such as Dr. Who). thank you Laurence. Yes, that was my reason fro creating this thread, to draw attention to just what the Australians, at least in the Victoria Melbourne area, had obtained from England, in terms of Associated-Rediffusion, ABC and BBC programmes and shows, with the odd one from ATV..Emergency Ward -10, other parts of Australia, such as Sydney must also have obtained these and other shows. I was hoping that the other forum members might have taken a look at the link I provided, if they had, they might have seen that Daniel Farson's Guide To The British,as well as SchoolProgrammes, Playtime, Playschool,Magic Roundabout were also shown. My list of 17 at the start of this thread, probably contains many Missing Episodes, I wonder what became of the material after it was shown, is it still there, gathering dust somewhere.. another reason for creating this thread. Realise it creates more questions than answers.
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Post by RWels on Nov 10, 2014 13:23:27 GMT
The latter of the two was certainly aired in Australia, 4 audio-only tracks were returned from there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 13:48:29 GMT
I wonder what became of the material after it was shown, is it still there, gathering dust somewhere.. another reason for creating this thread. Realise it creates more questions than answers. Indeed. The sheer amount of UK programming screened abroad at that time was phenomenal and the law of averages says that if even a miniscule amount of it disappeared or simply vanished off the official radar after transmission, there could still be a lot of missing material out there somewhere, waiting to be identified (even now and even after many trawls across the world, which have often been narrowly focussed and directed, after all).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 16:20:18 GMT
I wonder what became of the material after it was shown, is it still there, gathering dust somewhere.. another reason for creating this thread. Realise it creates more questions than answers. Indeed. The sheer amount of UK programming screened abroad at that time was phenomenal and the law of averages says that if even a miniscule amount of it disappeared or simply vanished off the official radar after transmission, there could still be a lot of missing material out there somewhere, waiting to be identified (even now and even after many trawls across the world, which have often been narrowly focussed and directed, after all). Spot on Laurence. Let's hope someone or some group can follow up what was being shown in the television schedules above, which also includes some CitizenJames, Detective, Hancock's and Panorama to name a few more. There must be other listings of what was being shown in this particular region of Australia, on other days and in other parts of Australia.
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Post by George D on Nov 10, 2014 20:43:27 GMT
I'm curious what the rules were with ar stuff
I know you're bbc wanted their stuff destroyed but maybe not ar
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 11:24:35 GMT
here are some more.
18. Tuesday 6 June 1967 Victoria Albury ABAV1 9.20 - 9.50 Charlie Drake. AMV4 2.15am - 2.45am Hancock's Half Hour. 19. Wednesday 21 October 1970 Melbourne ABV2 8.50 - 9.20 Softly Softly. 20. Friday 29 October 1971 Victoria HSV7 10.30 - 11am Me Mammy. 8pm-8.50pm Softly Softly. 21. Wednesday 2 February 1972 ABV2 7.30 - 8pm The Val Doonican Show.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 12:50:15 GMT
I'm also curious about Rediffusion policy. There are lots of grey areas with them but I'm absolutely convinced there is more material out there waiting to be found. It's so easy to find UK programmes being screened elsewhere way back too (and Simon's above examples are just for small areas of one country). It's really like trying to find the needle in the haystack!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 8:22:24 GMT
I'm also curious about Rediffusion policy. There are lots of grey areas with them but I'm absolutely convinced there is more material out there waiting to be found. It's so easy to find UK programmes being screened elsewhere way back too (and Simon's above examples are just for small areas of one country). It's really like trying to find the needle in the haystack! Yes indeed Laurence. It would be good if someone or some body could provide some guidance to what Rediffusion policy was with regard to their material being shown and its existence thereafter,(but there again, some episodes might still get left there.) Yes my examples are for just small areas of one country, but I would very much like to see other listings of UK programmes, not just ABC, A-R or BBC, but from any other UK television station, so long as the material is/has Missing Episodes, for the same area as above, or other areas of Australia, or anywhere else in the world. These other listings would provide guidance as to where the Missing Episodes were being sent to be viewed by that Country's viewers and we could create a list or database of where the shows/programmes were sent or might still be there, if such a list or database does not already exist. Be interested to hear what others on this forum think or feel about this.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Nov 12, 2014 8:36:49 GMT
I'm also curious about Rediffusion policy. There are lots of grey areas with them but I'm absolutely convinced there is more material out there waiting to be found. It's so easy to find UK programmes being screened elsewhere way back too (and Simon's above examples are just for small areas of one country). It's really like trying to find the needle in the haystack! Yes indeed Laurence. It would be good if someone or some body could provide some guidance to what Rediffusion policy was with regard to their material being shown and its existence thereafter,(but there again, some episodes might still get left there.) Yes my examples are for just small areas of one country, but I would very much like to see other listings of UK programmes, not just ABC, A-R or BBC, but from any other UK television station, so long as the material is Missing Episodes, for the same area as above, or other areas of Australia, or anywhere else in the world. These other listings would provide guidance as to where the Missing Episodes were being sent to be viewed by that Country's viewers and we could create a list or database of where the shows/programmes were sent or might still be there, if such a list or database does not already exist. Be interested to hear what others on this forum think or feel about this. ATV had ITC as their export arm, IIRC Rediffusion had a company called Global Television which was their export arm,it is thought that around 1973 the AR material was started to be dissipated as by then the material was getting out of date and of course mostly in B/W. Global TV carried on and of course had to get involved in new programmes if it was to survive, (if its the same company?) then it got involved some projects by the writer Ian Stuart Black which included the SciFi series Star Maidens. ...something like that anyway.
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