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Post by Simon B Kelly on Oct 15, 2018 19:48:27 GMT
As the series has been repeated on other channels over the years I would expect there are multiple broadcast quality copies of Episode 97 gathering dust somewhere...
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Oct 5, 2018 17:06:08 GMT
Interesting to note that BEATWAVE was produced by Derek Batey, who joined Border TV in 1961 and went on to host MR & MRS for them from 1967-1988. Not many Border productions were networked on ITV so I doubt many people outside of Cumbria will have heard of BEATWAVE. It also makes it highly unlikely that it would have been archived but you never know...
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Aug 28, 2018 17:16:31 GMT
This article from 2014 could be the original source. In it Richard Cadell talks to Billy Langsworthy about saving Sooty and includes the following quote:
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Aug 28, 2018 4:07:39 GMT
Brian Cosgrove and Mark Hall produced traditionally animated films for over 30 years. According to Wikipedia: "Sooty's Amazing Adventures" looks very similar in style to their earlier work like "Dangermouse" so I reckon it would've been filmed first then put onto video. I'd like to think there are multiple dubs of the finished masters floating about. It was sold overseas (there's a Norwegian dubbed episode on YT) so I'm confident all 26 episodes are still out there somewhere...
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Aug 26, 2018 17:41:11 GMT
It's a bit late trying to erase the programmes after they have already aired on TV. "Sooty's Amazing Adventures" was also licensed to various video companies back in the nineties, including Cinema Club, Channel 5 Video and Tempo Video - all budget labels that released 4 episodes per tape for under a fiver. I've seen VHS tapes with episodes 1-4 and 5-8 on from the first series so at least they're safe. It wouldn't surprise me if Cosgrove Hall had their own back-up copies filed away somewhere as well. Their back catalogue is now part of Freemantle Media.
Of course, they'll never be officially released again, but those who want to see them can always go to one of those video sharing sites...
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Aug 17, 2018 16:27:35 GMT
I'm optimistic that somewhere down under, in one or more territories, a 16mm telerecording of the original Kitten Kong still exists. Several networks broadcast The Goodies, in various timeslots, some using edited/censored prints, so although the BBC may only have sent them one black and white positive, it's likely copies were struck for the different territories.
I'm hoping that as archives are digitized and their databases appear online, that in time the original will resurface. Fingers crossed, we'll still be around to see it...
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Aug 14, 2018 17:29:58 GMT
The Bee Gees and Frankie Howard were also together in the Tv movie Cucumber Castle. Frankie Howerd also played the part of Mean Mr Mustard in the Bee Gee's movie "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"...
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Aug 4, 2018 19:01:47 GMT
8,000 homes in the UK are still buying black and white TV licences, which, in an age of 4K and HD seems almost unbelieveable. Do they really only have a black and white receiver and no recording equipment? Obviously, they must be using some sort of Freeview or Freesat device to be able to decode the digital TV signal to analogue 625 for their 40 year-old TV's. I wonder how many also have an additional box to convert the 625 down to 405 lines?
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Aug 4, 2018 18:32:49 GMT
Here in the UK, the original Kitten Kong aired on BBC 2 on the 12th November 1971. The alternate version was listed in the Radio Times as simply Montreux 72 when it was first broadcast on 9th April 1972. In 1975 the BBC once again entered an episode of The Goodies into Rose D'or. This time it was the first episode of Series 5, more commonly known as "The Movies". No special edit or remake was filmed this time. They even got all three of them to make a documentary on the festival, broadcast on the 10th May 1975, and billed in the Radio Times as The Golden Rose (I wonder if that still exists in the archive?) The winner of the Golden Rose that year was RAI of Italy, with their entry Fatti e Fattacci (which translates as Facts and Facts), a programme that RAI had filmed in colour especially for the festival, as colour TV didn't arrive in Italy until 1976! The Goodies at the Movies won the Silver Rose...
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Jul 29, 2018 8:37:22 GMT
The Rose D'or awards, as they are now known, began in 1961. Originally held in Montreux, Switzerland, the festival moved to Lucerne, Switzerland in 2004, before switching to Berlin, Germany, where it has been since 2013.
Originally, there were just 3 awards: The Golden Rose, The Silver Rose and The Bronze Rose, but over the years extra awards were added and eventually different categories, each of which were entitled to a Golden Rose.
Current rules insist that the programmes submitted must be uploaded in HD "as originally broadcast" without timecode or DOGs, but, of course, back in the sixties and seventies film was the preferred method of sharing programmes around the world, as it eliminated the problems with different TV systems and video formats, so all entries were presumably submitted as a physical 16mm or 35mm film print.
We know that filming of the alternate version began immediately after the second series had wrapped, but why remake an episode that had already been filmed, when they could have simply submitted the original version? Was it so that the original studio VT scenes could be recorded direct to 16mm to improve picture quality and allow a new master to be created on film instead of videotape?
The BBC had been pretty successful at Rose D'or, winning the first ever Golden Rose awarded in 1961 for a show that they'd probably prefer to forget these days, "The Black and White Minstrel Show". They won again in 1967 for "Frost over England". In 1969 and 1971 they came second, winning a Silver Rose for "Marty" and "Monty Python's Flying Circus" respectively.
This brings us up to 1972, when, for the first time, ITV won the Golden Rose with "The Best of the Comedy Machine", a programme starring Marty Feldman (who had won silver for the BBC in 1969) and Spike Milligan. The BBC's entry of Kitten Kong, submitted as an example of their series, "The Goodies", came in second place, winning them their third Silver Rose.
Many Australians remember seeing the original version of Kitten Kong in black and white, which was later replaced with the Rose D'or colour version, so we know that a black and white telerecording was made of it, along with the rest of the second series, before the original video was wiped. It's just frustrating that a series that the BBC deemed important enough to submit to Rose D'or, wasn't properly archived in the first place...
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Jul 6, 2018 19:33:35 GMT
In 1998's 'The Missing Years' documentary Ian Levine confidently says "There will always be 110 missing Doctor Who episodes". By the time the programme was included on the 2004 'Lost in Time' DVD there were only 108 missing.
I had lunch with Ian in 2010 during which he insisted "There will always be 108 missing Doctor Who episodes".
A year later I was at the BFI Missing Believed Wiped event and amazingly two more episodes had been recovered and Ian was now telling me, "There will always be 106 missing Doctor Who episodes", whereas I was firmly of the opinion that one day the total would fall to below one hundred.
That day arrived a lot sooner than I expected with the Phil Morris recoveries!
We know there is AT LEAST one more missing episode in a private collection - possibly several more - when you factor in Web of Fear Part 3 that Phil and his team found and then lost again, so I'm quietly confident that the total will fall below 90 during my lifetime.
The longest we've had to wait between recoveries is about 8 years, I believe, so I'm sure something will turn up soon...
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Jun 16, 2018 12:20:30 GMT
I would ignore the dates and episode numbers on TV Brain as they don't match other sources on this programme. Radio Times tells us that the series started prior to 1947 with Episode 1 being shown on Friday, November 22nd 1946 and further episodes being shown every two weeks.
Also, due to the harsh winter in 1947 and the coal shortage, BBC Television broadcasts were suspended between 11th February and the 28th February, so the episode TV Brain (and Genome) list for Friday, 14th February 1947 couldn't possibly have aired.
I've counted a total of 102 broadcast episodes of the TV series "Kaleidoscope". Most were probably broadcast live and never recorded, although as the link that John gave us only lists 1947, we can presume the last 82 episodes may possibly exist.
Don't suppose there's any chance of them being repeated any time soon, though...
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Post by Simon B Kelly on Jun 11, 2018 12:53:27 GMT
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Post by Simon B Kelly on May 26, 2018 21:49:16 GMT
I was hoping someone could fill us in.
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Post by Simon B Kelly on May 19, 2018 23:11:01 GMT
Here's another Boy Meets Girls article that was published in the TV Times, dated January 22, 1960:
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