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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jan 29, 2015 12:13:50 GMT
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Post by williammcgregor on Jan 29, 2015 13:18:12 GMT
Thanks Ray, maybe Marc having the guitar lead in his trousers was a precursor to the fashion amongst some men for having long chains hanging down from their trousers? who started that by the way? (yawn)Zzzzz
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Post by Chris Barratt on Jan 29, 2015 13:36:00 GMT
Note how Disco seemed just to cut into a full edition of TOTP there (bizarre editing, but ZDF weren't alone with that at the time) as we hear the beginning of "Just My Imagination" (which did indeed follow on the 8/7/71 TOTP) which is why I suspect that - at least at first - ZDF were just sent full shows with mute links to use as opposed to specific inserts. Shows that, perhaps, still lie uncatalogued in their archive.
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Post by williammcgregor on Feb 22, 2015 21:55:06 GMT
Just looking through a batch of Melody Makers from 1972 and came across a readers letter from the 19th August 1972 about Top of the Pops, the reader was querying why the visually exciting bands were virtually ignored and that most of the people who played on the show were so unexciting that it might just have well been on the radio!
She went on to say What was so visually exciting as Donny Osmond floating around a kids playground with such a moronic expression
My question is, was this a special film made for TOTP?... has a forum member any idea
I'm not a Donny Osmond fan but I would'nt knock him either, I'm just curious.
I would imagine then that the reader was probably speaking about the TOTP show on the 10/08/72 does that show exist? as I believe 1972 is one of the worst years for anything surviving?
Another thing is that if this was a special film going around at the time maybe it's on Ron's tape number 41 in a "Lift Off" show?
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Post by David Saunders on Feb 22, 2015 23:31:45 GMT
Just looking through a batch of Melody Makers from 1972 and came across a readers letter from the 19th August 1972 about Top of the Pops, the reader was querying why the visually exciting bands were virtually ignored and that most of the people who played on the show were so unexciting that it might just have well been on the radio! She went on to say What was so visually exciting as Donny Osmond floating around a kids playground with such a moronic expression My question is, was this a special film made for TOTP?... has a forum member any idea I'm not a Donny Osmond fan but I would'nt knock him either, I'm just curious. I would imagine then that the reader was probably speaking about the TOTP show on the 10/08/72 does that show exist? as I believe 1972 is one of the worst years for anything surviving? Another thing is that if this was a special film going around at the time maybe it's on Ron's tape number 41 in a "Lift Off" show? From the reader's comment, previous forum info on the song and the 28/12/72 footage, it turns out that Top of the Pops featured at least 3 different pieces of film footage for Puppy Love. The song debuted on Top of the Pops on 29/06/72, which is a TOTP film that doesn't feature Donny in the footage: missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/7968?page=1It's very likely that the viewer was commenting on the 03/08/72 edition. Although this footage isn't known to exist, from your description, what the viewer saw may have been an official promo, as there could have been one made, but I'm not aware of Top of the Pops ever showing 2 different TOTP films for the same songs. In the absence of available footage, I'd say that Puppy Love seen by the viewer was either a promo film or film footage made exclusively for another programme. Hopefully one of the others will know more to clarify this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 2:56:31 GMT
It's quite likely the reader is confusing this with the specially made TOTP promo film. Although not in a playground, it does feature a rather gormless looking Donny look-alike at a funfair.
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Post by williammcgregor on Feb 23, 2015 6:28:35 GMT
Thanks David for the link to the previous TOTP "Orphans" thread
and thanks Mike for the description of the "Puppy Love" film at a (Funfair)with a Donny Osmond "Look-a-like" that's a bit bizarre
never seen that footage before.
cheers William
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Post by David Saunders on Feb 23, 2015 8:54:20 GMT
It's quite likely the reader is confusing this with the specially made TOTP promo film. Although not in a playground, it does feature a rather gormless looking Donny look-alike at a funfair. Thanks for correcting the information. On that basis, TOTP must have shown just two films, thus the Funfair TOTP promo was very likely shown every week from 29/06/72 to 03/08/72, and the different footage on 28/12/72, which is either the official promo or a performance from another show, as some promo films have been filmed in studios.
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Post by David Saunders on Feb 23, 2015 8:55:42 GMT
Thanks David for the link to the previous TOTP "Orphans" thread and thanks Mike for the description of the "Puppy Love" film at a (Funfair)with a Donny Osmond "Look-a-like" that's a bit bizarre never seen that footage before. cheers William You're welcome, William. I'm virtually sure that the Puppy Love footage that Mike has elaborated further on is the existing 29/06/72 TOTP promo.
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Post by williammcgregor on Feb 26, 2015 9:51:18 GMT
Melody Maker readers letter 15th January 1972
While you're knocking Grand Funk and other "atrocious" acts,please spare a thought for the "incredible" Pan's People and the rest of Top of the Pops.
I've just sat through the worst example of forced entertainment ever. First,out of God knows how many singles that are circulating at the moment,we enjoyed two BBC theme tunes,one of which could hardly be called "pop"...the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra!
Secondly,we had a most exhilarating performance by Pan's People on board an Aircraft Carrier in Mombasa. They certainly never change their choreography and dance to the worst records.
Lastly after Val Doonican had lulled me to sleep,I was rudely awakened by "Ernie."
If the programme had'nt ended then I would have gone back to sleep again.
Richard Joseph Kensington Place Road Notting Hill Gate London W.11.
My question is... why would Pan's People be on an Aircraft Carrier in Mombasa? and what song were they dancing to? anybody know?
cheers William
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Post by Paul Watkins on Feb 26, 2015 10:53:23 GMT
The song was Barbra Streisand - Stoney End and is from 30-12-1971 which still exists
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Post by williammcgregor on Feb 26, 2015 11:39:29 GMT
Thanks for such a quick answer Paul
(but does anybody know why Pan's People were in Mombasa?)
maybe it had something to do with this?...The British Eastern Fleet was disbanded in 1971, and on 31 October 1971, the last day of the validity of the Anglo-Malayan Defence Agreement, the last Commander, Far East Fleet, Rear Admiral Anthony Troup, hauled down his flag.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Feb 26, 2015 12:33:55 GMT
Oman, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait and the UAE were all given independence during 1971, hence the disbanding of the Eastern Fleet, if I recall correctly.
I think some of them attained indepence as late as 02.12.71, but I am doing this off memory!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by johnstewart on Feb 27, 2015 13:35:14 GMT
With respect to Pan's People memories, one week they did a routine to Carly Simon's You're So Vain, which would place it around late 1972 - early 1973. The following week, due to public demand, they did the same routine again (to the same song, naturally). I believe this was the only time this happened. The routine included them drinking imaginary cups of coffee for the line "clouds in my coffee...". Pans people also did a missing routine for 'jean genie' at that time. I didn't see it in colour but assume the main subject might have been painted green as in 'monster mash'. One of th girls was dressed up Angie Bowie style.The background was one of those non descript studio bits which look black with various beams and triangular type shapes.The first shot was of their interpretation of jean genie as presumably an alien girl. The camera started on the boots not unlike Bowies whistle test from '72 then panning up the body. She was dressed in glitter platform boots and a glitter catsuit which has a darker colour with silvery trim. I seem to think she was wearing a permed wig again in probably a weird colour. Also big sunglasses bit like a cross between Bette Davis style and x ray specs beach type ones. She may have had a false insect antennae headset like the one Chicory tip used for GOOD GRIEF CHRISTINA. I don't recall how or where the other dance troupe members came in. Pans people donned gangster suits for a film for THE PERSUADERS tv theme and seem to recall them reusing them with a machine gun prop painted in a bright colour for 'armed and extremely dangerous' in 1973. The routine for that was the oft used standing in a line one behind the other each making a move before going off to reveal the next girl behind.
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Post by johnstewart on Feb 27, 2015 13:37:34 GMT
Oh, just to add I also recall they did a routine to POPCORN by hot butter. Apart from jerky toy like movements & a dark background can't recall much about that one I'm afraid. It was slightly disturbing.
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