Greg Glenn
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Post by Greg Glenn on Jan 31, 2014 3:40:19 GMT
All,
Greetings from Korea.
Having just caught up on all this AFRTS discussion I have decided to do some digging myself. I'm going to try to dig around Osan Air Base in Songtan (US Air Force) and Yongsan Garrison in Seoul (8th Army HQ). Both have been in US hands since the Korean War. I'm not sure where to start exactly, but I plan to physically search where I can. Access is not an issue.
I drive right past the Osan TV facility every time I'm on that installation. The area where it sits was constructed in 1952 but I have no idea when the broadcasters set up base. No idea either where the facilities are at Yongsan although I'm sure I've seen that building too.
I don't have the time to drop my life and start hunting exclusively. But I will research and do what I can, when I can. Obviously anything of interest will be reported here.
Point #1: I am not British but I do have a pretty good idea of missing UK television courtesy of this forum. I'll be in the hunt for ANY missing programs from both the UK and US.
Point #2: I have a college degree in broadcast communication (radio/television) and I do know quite a bit about film also. So no worries about me calling a reel of 16mm "tape" and things like that.
Any legitimate, helpful questions or searching advice are welcome but please don't pester me with "when are you searching XX" or "have you found anything". As I said, if I do turn up anything I WILL let everyone know. Please don't expect this to be a fast process.
Thanks for reading.
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Post by mattplace on Jan 31, 2014 4:05:40 GMT
Best of luck... I'm visiting Korea for the 1st time in May, excited to go.. maybe i'll have a reason to buy you a beer hehehe
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Post by Robert Lia on Jan 31, 2014 5:50:18 GMT
Good luck with the search Youngson Garrison was the main headquarters of AFKN and that is where I believe any remaining left over films would be stored in Korea.
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Post by scotttelfer on Jan 31, 2014 8:54:10 GMT
The best advice I could possibly give is that if you find anything, regardless of whether the original owners have a copy or not, you should still attempt to make contact with them, or at least alert the wider community to their existence, that way if time constraints really do become a problem someone else can pick up where you left off.
The most important thing is checking if it is there then making sure it is safe, recovery comes after that.
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Post by adamjordan on Jan 31, 2014 13:44:05 GMT
Good luck Glenn
BTW, is that Steve Hackett in your avatar?
(apologies if it's you!)
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Greg Glenn
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Post by Greg Glenn on Jan 31, 2014 14:09:44 GMT
Spot on. That's me and Steve Hackett. Very nice guy and amazing guitarist. I recommend everyone go see him and Genesis Revisited if you get the chance.
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Greg Glenn
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Post by Greg Glenn on Jan 31, 2014 14:11:30 GMT
Robert Lia thanks for the advice. Also forgot to say I'll be here at least another year and a half. So that should give me plenty of time.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 31, 2014 14:53:45 GMT
Duplicates may be better copies - like WoF 1 - so are still worth having.
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Jan 31, 2014 15:04:32 GMT
I wouldn't know what could be possible to search for, but if you could also look for paperwork? Any sort of indication of film movement. What was purchased, bought, donated, brought in, etc. Some scans of such paperwork would help to. I don't know if it's possible to search for that.
And as John just said, Duplicates are good too. When Web of Fear 1 was discovered in Nigeria, it had better qualities than the copy we already had.
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Post by Alex Dering on Jan 31, 2014 17:44:39 GMT
Greg:
I think it would be instructive if you could go into some of the details that usually don't get covered about these searches. For example: What does the archive actually look like? Is it some tiny little closet of a room with tapes just stacked everywhere? Are there catalogs (electronic or paper)? What's the general condition of the items in the archive (regardless of whether they're what you were looking for).
I'd ask the staff (if you feel close enough to them to do so) if there are collectors who've reached out to them in the past for items. Perhaps those people will have leads to follow up or suggestions none of us have thought of.
Anyway, best of luck. Thanks for doing the heavy lifting on this.
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Post by Christopher Perry on Jan 31, 2014 18:47:32 GMT
May I suggest if you find any British stuff at all, BBC or ITV, you contact someone like the BFI or us here at Kaleidoscope to get it all shipped back to the UK?
Thanks
Chris
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 31, 2014 18:59:41 GMT
May I suggest if you find any British stuff at all, BBC or ITV, you contact someone like the BFI or us here at Kaleidoscope to get it all shipped back to the UK? Thanks Chris That way we will get it this side of xmas !
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Post by John Wall on Jan 31, 2014 19:45:03 GMT
Be prepared for frustrated fans to start throwing their toys out of their prams if you don't hit paydirt yesterday
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Post by shellyharman67 on Jan 31, 2014 19:54:29 GMT
Be prepared for frustrated fans to start throwing their toys out of their prams if you don't hit paydirt yesterday Ever the believer John lol. But who knows
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Post by John Wall on Jan 31, 2014 20:07:23 GMT
Be prepared for frustrated fans to start throwing their toys out of their prams if you don't hit paydirt yesterday Ever the believer John lol. But who knows This is potentially one of the most interesting areas in a long time. Some of those places have been there decades, behind secure fences and may never have had a good clearout. The prints that have been recently found could have been, er, "liberated" from just such a place. The good thing about that type of organisation is that people tend to know their opposite numbers on other sites. You chat up someone in Base A and, being American (and helpful !), the chances are that they'll call someone in Bases B, C and D for you. Also, being American (reverse racism here !), and military they're likely to be conscientious and efficient. If someone says they've checked a store and not found anything you can have more confidence than for most African countries. Then, if they do find anything, the military tends to have their own mail/courier system between bases......
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