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Post by shellyharman67 on Dec 30, 2013 17:19:07 GMT
Interesting one !
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Post by John Green on Dec 30, 2013 17:32:34 GMT
Let me be the first to go off-topic (sort of) and suggest that some colour stories have more atmosphere in b&w.Local fella charges me 25 notes per hour for the transfer...
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Post by shellyharman67 on Dec 30, 2013 17:35:50 GMT
Let me be the first to go off-topic (sort of) and suggest that some colour stories have more atmosphere in b&w.Local fella charges me 25 notes per hour for the transfer... I have always wondered that myself. I watched laurel and hardy in colour and have to say it was very weird. But perhaps if nothing else has been found, or the range comes to an end one day could this not be something to try maybe ?
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Post by Alan Jeffries on Dec 30, 2013 17:51:40 GMT
NO!
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Post by rdenham on Dec 30, 2013 17:53:23 GMT
I don't see why not. As long as it's done well and the original B&W versions are available alongside the colourised versions.
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Post by Greg H on Dec 30, 2013 17:56:55 GMT
It isn't something I would watch!
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Post by richardwoods on Dec 30, 2013 18:01:27 GMT
For me a resounding no unless the quality of colourisation was very high, better than colour recovery, the logic being that for something that was never meant to be shown in colour, nothing is being recovered, so anything less than a top quality job would be inferior to black and white. Some of the studio colour photographs of black and white Who looked interesting, for example Power of the Daleks and if the episodes were ever recovered, the photos could be used as a basis for colourisation.
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Post by martinjwills on Dec 30, 2013 18:01:53 GMT
Remember Mind of Evil one , has been colourised, as it was only a B&W copy with no chroma dots.
If an an automatic method is developed, then it would make it more likely. When i have worked with grey scale images, they were stored as the following pixel colours R7 G7 B7 and R1 G1 B1 etc, they numbers always the same where R0 G0 B0 is black and R15 G15 B15 is White.
so you only have the lightness/darkness of the colour information in the frame image. Each Key frame image would have to be manually painted at the moment, the method used for mind of evil 1.
There are plenty of automated methods for making the episodes 3D at the moment (2D to 3D conversion) I have not seen how good they are myself, but would probably prefer a 3D daemons to a coloursed B&W story. In the recent Clara/Hartnell tardis stealing scene, the colours looked pale.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Dec 30, 2013 18:05:29 GMT
For me a resounding no unless the quality of colourisation was very high, better than colour recovery, the logic being that for something that was never meant to be shown in colour, nothing is being recovered, so anything less than a top quality job would be inferior to black and white. Some of the studio colour photographs of black and white Who looked interesting, for example Power of the Daleks and if the episodes were ever recovered, the photos could be used as a basis for colourisation. It was not available. So it cant be that it was never meant to be ! A special edition offering both maybe ? I would rather see that then what Moff is giving us !
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Post by John Green on Dec 30, 2013 18:14:36 GMT
For me a resounding no unless the quality of colourisation was very high, better than colour recovery, the logic being that for something that was never meant to be shown in colour, nothing is being recovered, so anything less than a top quality job would be inferior to black and white. Some of the studio colour photographs of black and white Who looked interesting, for example Power of the Daleks and if the episodes were ever recovered, the photos could be used as a basis for colourisation. It was not available. So it cant be that it was never meant to be ! A special edition offering both maybe ? I would rather see that then what Moff is giving us ! In fact,it could well be something that the original production team would have relished.There was no prospect of DVDs enabling constant rewatching/hyper-criticism.does that go against the wishes of the creators?
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Post by Philip C Huish on Dec 30, 2013 18:17:50 GMT
TBH, I've watched all the B&W DVDs recently and haven't thought once during them "That'd look much better in colour". The only one that I'd like to see would be Marco Polo as the colour photos look really good.
I doubt that there would be enough demand for colour versions of B&W who.
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Post by Simon Jailler on Dec 30, 2013 18:19:59 GMT
I'd prefer them left alone in B&W. Terror of the Autons and The Silurians looked fantastic in black and white. No quibbles from me though if Phil Morris finds some lost Troughtons in colour though
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Post by shellyharman67 on Dec 30, 2013 18:22:57 GMT
TBH, I've watched all the B&W DVDs recently and haven't thought once during them "That'd look much better in colour". The only one that I'd like to see would be Marco Polo as the colour photos look really good. I doubt that there would be enough demand for colour versions of B&W who. But when it all comes to an end, which it will. What else can we do ? Most of the B/W actors are either dead or very elderly now to do special editions. I say try one and see.
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Post by John Green on Dec 30, 2013 18:29:11 GMT
I've actually watched one or two colourised films without realising it; non-famous ones such as 'The Christmas Wish',which had me blathering on about the wonders of technicolor.Shows what I know!
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Post by shellyharman67 on Dec 30, 2013 18:33:20 GMT
I've actually watched one or two colourised films without realising it; non-famous ones such as 'The Christmas Wish',which had me blathering on about the wonders of technicolor.Shows what I know! My take on it is you give it a go and see what the reaction is. Adventures in time and space got me thinking this might just work as an extra feature to a special edition.
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