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Post by Jeff Leach on Sept 13, 2013 1:15:03 GMT
Just came across this hour long upload of what is listed as 2 unknown episodes of the Spike Milligan landmark series Q5 www.youtube.com/watch?v=phy0dvrVzc0Never been lucky enough to see any of this first series - can anyone identify which editions they are Missing or incomplete episodes for programme Q5. 24.03.69 with Richard Ingrams, John Bluthal, John Wells, Philippe Le Bars, Anthony Trent (missing) 31.03.69 with Neil Shand, John Bluthal, Fanny Carby, Alan Clare, Philippe Le Bars A 16mm black-and-white film print exists, but the programme was originally made using 2" colour videotape. 07.04.69 with John Wells, Richard Ingrams, John Bluthal, Philippe Le Bars, Charlie Young A 16mm black-and-white film print exists, but the programme was originally made using 2" colour videotape. 21.04.69 with Richard Ingrams, John Bluthal, John Wells, Eric Sykes, Katie Boyle (missing) 28.04.69 with John Bluthal, Fanny Carby, Ray Ellington, Michael Malnick, Philippe Le Bars (missing) 05.05.69 with Philippe Le Bars, John Bluthal, Charlie Young, John Wells, Alan Clare (missing) Out of an original total of 7 episodes, 4 episodes are missing and 2 others exist on formats inferior to the original. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 9:42:25 GMT
I haven't looked at them for a while but, from memory, they're the two t/rs which exist at the BBC (there's also a colour VT episode existing, which doesn't seem to have been as widely seen though). I think one is the first episode. Not sure of the other.
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Post by RWels on Sept 13, 2013 12:04:54 GMT
Yes, most of the times (but just not always) this sort of thing is a collector uploading the videos he traded or downloaded. This guy for example has clearly uploaded all the Spike stuff he had.
Even so it's good of you to check. There just might be something they did not realize is missing (audio tracks for example from TV shows).
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Post by Rich Cornock on Sept 13, 2013 12:19:08 GMT
One of the comments says they are episodes 3 and 1 (posted on youtube in that order)
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Post by Simon Collis on Sept 13, 2013 12:23:46 GMT
If it's episodes 3 and 1 then the second is missing. If however the comment's wrong then it's episodes 2 & 3. Or maybe the episodes were transmitted out of order?
My brain hurts now.
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Post by RWels on Sept 13, 2013 18:05:21 GMT
He also posted it's funnier than Monty Python. According to stuff I once downloaded it's episodes 1 and 5, although what appears to be 5 is also called 1 and wikipedia says it's in fact number 3 but mislabeled. Judging from lostshows they must be episode 2 and 3, while 4 is the only episode that survives in colour (but is not on youtube). However let's not forget this site's own list (there is more to it than just a forum), which says it's is 1 and 3. At least it's better than Q1 to 4, of which no trace remains at all! |
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Post by Simon Collis on Sept 13, 2013 20:03:12 GMT
According to stuff I once downloaded it's episodes 1 and 5, although what appears to be 5 is also called 1 and wikipedia says it's in fact number 3 but mislabeled. Judging from lostshows they must be episode 2 and 3, while 4 is the only episode that survives in colour (but is not on youtube). However let's not forget this site's own list (there is more to it than just a forum), which says it's is 1 and 3. At least it's better than Q1 to 4, of which no trace remains at all! If you need me, I'll be under the table, whimpering quietly... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 21:56:49 GMT
was Q5 on the lines of Monty Python.
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Post by richardwoods on Sept 16, 2013 6:20:13 GMT
IIRC an insane sketch show, so yes sort of I guess but with Spikes own kind of magic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 10:49:06 GMT
Well, considering that the Pythons thought that Spike had beat them to the punch with Q5, it's obvious they were working along similar lines.
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Post by RWels on Sept 16, 2013 14:18:09 GMT
That was a question?
Well, the short answer is: Yes.
Long answer: Well, they're on youtube, see what you make of it for yourself.
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Post by RWels on Sept 17, 2013 15:36:51 GMT
If you need me, I'll be under the table, whimpering quietly... Is that because of the lost episodes, the confusion, or my terrible joke? |
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Post by Simon Collis on Sept 17, 2013 16:31:58 GMT
If you need me, I'll be under the table, whimpering quietly... Is that because of the lost episodes, the confusion, or my terrible joke? The confusion. It doesn't take much to confuse me, especially on days with a 'y' in them... |
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Post by RWels on Sept 17, 2013 20:33:18 GMT
Well there are 2 b/w episodes and 1 colour, it's just a tad unclear which order they originally came in. And the colour episode doesn't seem to be around. It can be viewed at the BFI however.
Based on lostshows, bfi and motion picture gallery I conclude that this is what exists:
#2 1969/03/31 b/w
#3 1969/04/07 b/w
#4 1969/04/14 colour
(You want complicated, try At last the 1948 show. If I hadn't had help I would have never figured out what came from which episode originally. Or the silent "Phantom of the opera" film: The original cut exists only on 16mm, then there was a rerelease with added sound track, in a different version. The latter survives as a silent copy and no-one knows why that print was made.)
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Post by brianfretwell on Sept 19, 2013 15:05:48 GMT
I assume the reference to Q1-4 not existing was a joke. Spike said in 1969 that he called the show Q5 as there was a great deal of publicity about the new Cunard liner codenamed the Q4 (later revealed to be the Queen Elizabeth 2). This still exists as well as the Queen Mary, Q3 was never built and the original Queen Elizabeth was destroyed by fire in Hong Kong harbour.
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