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Post by David Robinson on Jun 13, 2013 19:32:01 GMT
No he hasn't. Why do you keep spreading lies? I am not a liar and do not appreciate being called one. He debunked it on Gallifreybase more than once. Nothing has been returned. Nothing is being worked on. Quote. And that is more than likely the case. But ask the question "are negotiations going on over a possible batch of episodes?" and he doesnt reply. If it is a load of bull then why doesnt he say so? He could kill the rumour so easily but left holes in his reply that are getting bigger every day.
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Post by Martin Kinsella on Jun 13, 2013 19:32:05 GMT
Oh great....love a good rumour.Do we know which African Country this man is situated in? I am sure Mr Vanesis would have intimated some kind of recovery was in progress by now. Is this the tail end of the film hub rumour in Africa from a month or so ago? Why Evil in particular? Actually I have thought for sometime,at least 18 months,as to why TUM2 has not been released ,and still no news of it being animated.Could it be that there was a possibility of the the other TUM eps being found? Just speculating.... If you're talking about Rich Johnson, he lives in the UK. He's also someone that I wouldn't call a hoaxer. On the contrary, he has a good decent track record of breaking stories in the comic book industry. So we're not talking about an internet con artist, either. He's also worked at the BBC as a script writer (Smack the Pony), and I assume he'd like to again. Knowingly publishing a fake Doctor Who rumor would probably endanger that. smack the pony was c4 He may have heard a rumour and be genuine printing it. It is still Bisto. Paul debunked it on gbase.
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Post by Martin Kinsella on Jun 13, 2013 19:33:23 GMT
I am not a liar and do not appreciate being called one. He debunked it on Gallifreybase more than once. Nothing has been returned. Nothing is being worked on. Quote. And that is more than likely the case. But ask the question "are negotiations going on over a possible batch of episodes?" and he doesnt reply. If it is a load of bull then why doesnt he say so? He could kill the rumour so easily but left holes in his reply that are getting bigger every day. I,suspect fans are just parsing and seeing things that are not there.
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Post by David Robinson on Jun 13, 2013 19:35:48 GMT
He may have heard a rumour and be genuine printing it. It is still Bisto. Paul debunked it on gbase. May have heard a rumour? If he hadnt heard it by now then he must have been living on some desert island for the last few months! If it is hobbies then why doesnt Paul or Richard or anyone else in the know come out and totally debunk the rumour that there is a pile of episodes somewhere and the BBC know about it!!??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 19:44:05 GMT
If you're talking about Rich Johnson, he lives in the UK. He's also someone that I wouldn't call a hoaxer. On the contrary, he has a good decent track record of breaking stories in the comic book industry. So we're not talking about an internet con artist, either. He's also worked at the BBC as a script writer (Smack the Pony), and I assume he'd like to again. Knowingly publishing a fake Doctor Who rumor would probably endanger that. smack the pony was c4 He may have heard a rumour and be genuine printing it. It is still Bisto. Paul debunked it on gbase. He's also worked for BBC Radio 4. We're not talking about some yokel here. Rich is a pretty well connected guy. Bleeding Cool is one of the better known comics/SF sites out there.
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Post by Andrew Haddow on Jun 13, 2013 19:49:37 GMT
Gents, this discussion needs to come to an end.
The Gallifrey Base thread has been locked and no doubt it won't be long before this one is as well.
For the new members, please see the below text about the last rumour posted by Mr V recently. It still applies.
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Post by Alex B on Jun 13, 2013 19:52:00 GMT
Hmm. This is despite people now getting advanced review copies of the "Regenerations" set and posting their reviews of the animated Episode 4...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 19:56:55 GMT
Hmm. This is despite people now getting advanced review copies of the "Regenerations" set and posting their reviews of the animated Episode 4... Which is why he said that it "strikes me as wish-fulfillment too far."
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Jun 13, 2013 20:03:25 GMT
He debunked it on Gallifreybase more than once. Nothing has been returned. Nothing is being worked on. Yes, that's true. But this rumour ... and the one that's been circulating for near 18 months ... is not that anything has been returned, or is being worked on. (obviously the speculation in this latest version that a recovered TP4 could be on the June release is false, given that preview copies are already in people's hands). It's that something has been found. Paul has asked people not to speculate. He hasn't asked people to post blatant mistruths.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 20:17:22 GMT
So if there is NO truth in this AT ALL, why doesn't someone like Mr Vanezis just come on here and say so?
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Post by Simon Exton on Jun 13, 2013 20:25:15 GMT
Hmm. This is despite people now getting advanced review copies of the "Regenerations" set and posting their reviews of the animated Episode 4... Just to play Devil's Advocate: that's exactly what you'd expect to happen if the episode were found after the animation was commissioned. Rather than lose the money spent on animation, releasing it before announcing the recovery of the episode would mean they'd make a profit rather than a loss because very few fans will buy an animation, knowing that the proper episode exists. And most fans will buy a full story, even if there's been an animated version. As for the BBC not making any announcements, just think about how long the delay between the recovery and announcement of last two episodes was. They're obviously more than capable of keeping quiet and the Restoration Team obviously know how to keep their traps shut too. Sadly, I think the idea of a massive cache of episodes appearing is unlikely, as much as I would love it to be true. If we're very lucky, they may have an episode or two to announce, but I don't expect to hear anything official until November. And I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for something, even if I know it unlikely.
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Post by Rob Moss on Jun 13, 2013 20:25:46 GMT
So if there is NO truth in this AT ALL, why doesn't someone like Mr Vanezis just come on here and say so? Paul hasn't been on the forum since last night - it may not seem like it, but we moderators do have other demands on our time..! On the subject of moderating... Did you get my PM about your user name..?
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Post by Martin Kinsella on Jun 13, 2013 20:26:23 GMT
He may have heard a rumour and be genuine printing it. It is still Bisto. Paul debunked it on gbase. May have heard a rumour? If he hadnt heard it by now then he must have been living on some desert island for the last few months! If it is hobbies then why doesnt Paul or Richard or anyone else in the know come out and totally debunk the rumour that there is a pile of episodes somewhere and the BBC know about it!!?? Paul did, on gallifreybase.
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Post by Martin Kinsella on Jun 13, 2013 20:31:04 GMT
So if there is NO truth in this AT ALL, why doesn't someone like Mr Vanezis just come on here and say so? He has dbunked this Bisto on gallifreybase.
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Post by Dave Green on Jun 13, 2013 20:33:33 GMT
We have to have rumours otherwise we would have nothing to post about. If this one turns out to be true then I will be writing a personal thank you letter to the most excellent chap who put these away for safe keeping. I'm sure I won't be the only one. Also the report states "the BBC have secured a large number of presumed-wiped episodes of early Doctor Who" so no-one is jeopardising the recovery of these. We're just potentially very excited and possibly quite disappointed otherwise - but then we're used to both of these scenarios on this forum
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