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Post by Dave Green on Dec 15, 2012 7:35:29 GMT
^^^ nice one Mark  Pet Peeve -- a film can is just that, a CAN for holding a reel (or spool) of film (aka a film print). We need to find the actual prints, not the cans.... I agree, cans are cans, but if uploading some details from them helps people return more missing film then it's got to be a good thing. I have no access to any existing film can information so cannot achieve this but I'm sure there are board members who do. If it helps, I'm happy to do the website if someone can upload as many existing Who film can pictures as possible. By looking at as many cans as possible, we should be able to build a list of probable information on the missing ones. |
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Post by Brad Phipps on Dec 15, 2012 8:04:26 GMT
How to get Google, which often puts these pages at the top of their search, to read the new paragraphs is something I'll look into. Seems OK to me:  Google cycle through pages every two months or less, so they'll update sooner or later by themselves. |
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Post by Jon Preddle on Dec 15, 2012 8:49:49 GMT
I agree, cans are cans, but if uploading some details from them helps people return more missing film then it's got to be a good thing. I have no access to any existing film can information so cannot achieve this but I'm sure there are board members who do. DW labels -- either hand written or typed -- generally always all have: * BBC Enterprises logo in red * series title written as DR WHO (rarely as DOCTOR WHO) * story title and EP number, or if a Hartnell the episode title * BBC production story code (D, RR, W, HH, OO, etc) * Enterprises code - e.g. 16/6ENT/number/number * duration in minutes and seconds - e.g. 24'-16'' * footage length in feet, usually between 850 and 950 give or take * number of reels 1 of 1 Other notations are sometimes added by the broadcaster -- appended to the BBC sticker or one their own -- such as an identifying catalogue number or storage code, censor rating (G, Y, A, X) Known examples are here: * gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/The_Moonbase* gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/Fury_from_the_Deep |
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Post by Brad Phipps on Dec 15, 2012 9:15:59 GMT
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Post by Steven Sigel on Dec 15, 2012 14:55:01 GMT
There are dozens of Dr. Who film "cans" out there -- I sold a stack of them to someone a number of years ago - they weren't fit to hold prints anymore, so I didn't bother to keep them.
If you want to show people what to look for - show scans of a film reel and show scans of what a BBC /Dr. Who leader would look like...
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Post by davidstead on Dec 15, 2012 15:58:09 GMT
Actually the label for the Evil Of The Daleks can that gordon has, is an actual BBC label, but not the original. Gordon Hendry wrote that label out as far as I recall. The gold Doctor Who sticker at the top of the can is one of mine ( I still have a load of those gold sticky labels somewhere).
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Dec 15, 2012 16:09:13 GMT
It's still an example of what to look for, as other Dr Who films in the collector's circuit may have home made labels.
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Post by George D on Dec 15, 2012 17:14:50 GMT
The dr who marco polo search engine results is great. However the cans probably wont say marco polo but rather the individual episode names. If we're going to do it right we'll have to have those individual names (even without dr who if possible) coming up high in the search engines with a similar message.
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Dec 15, 2012 21:10:38 GMT
At least for "Mission to the Unknown" and "The Savages" to "The Space Pirates" the altering of wikipages will be a benefit.
I suppose we'd have to be smart. If someone were to find a reel of "Assassin in Peking", how would they enter the search term? "Assassin in Peking" + BBC? + film? +16mm?
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Post by Jon Preddle on Dec 15, 2012 21:50:35 GMT
At least for "Mission to the Unknown" and "The Savages" to "The Space Pirates" the altering of wikipages will be a benefit. I suppose we'd have to be smart. If someone were to find a reel of "Assassin in Peking", how would they enter the search term? "Assassin in Peking" + BBC? + film? +16mm? Also include "Dr Who" as that would be prominent on the label. Various BBC labels have the words 16 / 35 mm pre-printed on them, with one or the other scribbled out accordingly, so it might not be obvious as to what that means, so 16mm might not even register or factor into their choice of search parameters. |
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Post by Jon Preddle on Dec 15, 2012 22:33:00 GMT
Actually the label for the Evil Of The Daleks can that gordon has, is an actual BBC label, but not the original. Gordon Hendry wrote that label out as far as I recall. Brad, also worth noting on the page is that although the first of The Ice Warriors labels does say EP TWO, all the other details on the label -- BBC code, duration, length -- are correct for episode 1, which was what was inside. It's more than likely therefore, that whoever wrote up the label erred by putting EP TWO instead of EP ONE. |
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Post by Brad Phipps on Dec 16, 2012 0:58:28 GMT
Actually the label for the Evil Of The Daleks can that gordon has, is an actual BBC label, but not the original. Gordon Hendry wrote that label out as far as I recall. Brad, also worth noting on the page is that although the first of The Ice Warriors labels does say EP TWO, all the other details on the label -- BBC code, duration, length -- are correct for episode 1, which was what was inside. It's more than likely therefore, that whoever wrote up the label erred by putting EP TWO instead of EP ONE. True. Will amend tomorrow. |
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Post by Mark Vanderlinde-Abernathy on Dec 16, 2012 4:18:51 GMT
Altered the wikipages for Highlanders to Space Pirates.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Dec 16, 2012 6:20:40 GMT
Altered the wikipages for Highlanders to Space Pirates. Like.  |
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Post by Dave Green on Dec 17, 2012 3:55:23 GMT
Altered the wikipages for Highlanders to Space Pirates. Nice one. Hmm, could be an uphill battle with the can labels. I'll do some more research and see if I can get some sort of database together, which can be put into a website. I'll keep you posted ... |
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Pet Peeve -- a film can is just that, a CAN for holding a reel (or spool) of film (aka a film print). We need to find the actual prints, not the cans....
