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Post by Dave Crichton on Dec 3, 2012 20:49:38 GMT
Hi - I've been going through my late grandfather's reel to reel tapes and have photographed the Radio Times cuttings which list their contents. Would people be interested in me posting the images here? Before I clutter the forum, I should note that there's no 'obvious big hitters' and it only covers a period of around '64 to '76, an era I'm guessing isn't anywhere near as depleted as the fifties? Also, although there are some comedies, radio plays and documentaries, the vast majority of the collection is music - mostly classical and opera; two great passions of my grandfather's. I recall being told in the past that music isn't of huge interest, even when missing as 60s performances of classical scores are much the same as contemporary ones.
If anything is of interest, I'm more than happy to provide it to the archived.
Many thanks
Dave
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Post by Daniel Hornby on Dec 3, 2012 21:20:04 GMT
[...]the vast majority of the collection is music - mostly classical and opera; two great passions of my grandfather's. I recall being told in the past that music isn't of huge interest, even when missing as 60s performances of classical scores are much the same as contemporary ones. If anything is of interest, I'm more than happy to provide it to the archived. Many thanks Dave Sounds intriguing Dave. I would say that the performances of operas and classical music will depend on the conductor/orchestra/soloist for example. No doubt your grandfather will have left behind some real gems and some not so good performances. All down to personal preference I guess. If you put up a list there will be takers I'm sure! |
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Post by markboulton on Dec 3, 2012 21:57:00 GMT
Absolutely. For a collection so meticulously put together as your grandfather's was, I think it's worthy of the respect of full retention and preservation, with I hope all necessary assistance being given by official and unofficial sources!
Incidentally, do you actually have a R2R tape machine, and are the tapes in good condition, or do they appear to need restoration at all?
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Post by John Green on Dec 3, 2012 22:01:21 GMT
Given the number of radio plays that are missing,some of those could be interesting,too!
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Post by John Wall on Dec 3, 2012 22:06:44 GMT
All of the spoken word content should be checked. Where's someone from ORCA....
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Post by Richard Harrison on Dec 4, 2012 17:42:17 GMT
Hi Dave
I can tell you pretty much what might be worthwhile based on the RT cuttings. I'd love to see them!
My E-Mail is gorleston1976@gmail.com Thanks!
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Post by graemestevenson on Dec 4, 2012 17:46:35 GMT
Hi Folks.
Yes, sounds interesting particularly if there are any 'missing' plays/dramas.
Hopefully when you get it all sorted out you can maybe post a list of what is on the reels ?
Cheers ! Graeme ( ORCA )
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Post by davecrichton on Dec 4, 2012 22:05:46 GMT
Hi guys, I've decided to upload these to an image upload link, as there are 80 images and I didn't want to overload the forum. This is the content of the main two boxes I've found. I have a feeling there are probably more. If there's anything of interest let me know and it might be worth digging around in the loft to see if there are more. If they're all of an era/genre of little interest, I'll probably leave it at that. Most images have the RT cuttings, some are hand written, and, as such are more difficult to date/identify. On some occasions, there are pages from both the mid 60s and mid 70s, but not markers to indicate exact content. This could mean he reused the tape and left the original slip in, or that there are many items recorded over a span of ten years. It seems my grandfather moved to cassette after '76, and there are literally hundreds of items after this on cassette. Though again, I'm guessing this is moving into a period of time that's nowhere near as badly represented in the archives. I know there are countless Desert Island Discs on cassette, so if there are any missing in the archive post 70s, let me know and I'll check. Many thanks Dave Here's the link: s902.beta.photobucket.com/user/MusicalDave/library/Reel-to-reel |
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Post by John Green on Dec 4, 2012 23:32:29 GMT
Dave,I think there's a chance that some of this could be missing. It looks as though the Diana Dors' 'Cause Celebre' was found recently: www.suttonelms.org.uk/lost3.html but no word on condition,so worth checking. |
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Post by markandresen on Dec 5, 2012 12:01:23 GMT
Oh Dave, it's difficult to know where to start. Even considering what may already exist at the Beeb (such as the Hancock ep. from - what - 1958/9? as it's a Tom Ronald prod.) your grandfather's copies may have superior sound quality (considering not all of what's in the Beeb's archives are original transcriptions but copies of copies). There's also the fact that some of the classical music progs you have are from anthology radio series that, again, MAY be missing. You have an obscure but, I'd say, crucial collection of material there. Listen to the experts (not me anymore) and you won't go wrong. Brilliant.
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Post by Rob Moss on Dec 5, 2012 12:18:09 GMT
The Hancock's Half hour is listed as a repeat, plus the listing style is very much that of the 1970s and 80s, so unless any have gone missing since then, it's unlikely to be a lost edition.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2012 16:14:04 GMT
An interesting collection and I've no doubt there is some missing material in there. I see from a couple of the pictures I've seen so far (not looked at all of them yet) that there is some mould appearing on a couple of reels, so the sooner these get digitally preserved the better. Would be interesting too to see if he recorded the stereo broadcasts in stereo.
It's not really my genre nor area of expertise, so impossible to say what is missing and what isn't but there's a high chance there is missing material there, so... best course of action now? I'll leave that for people better qualified and experienced than me as to how to go about dealing with this archive, but they certainly need to start being digitally backed up.
Another issue that needs to be borne in mind is that some of the later tapes might require very careful handling since tapes from 1978 onwards tend to suffer from the oxide becoming sticky, therefore requiring being baked to make them playable in order to preserve them without shedding the oxide.
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Post by Rich Cornock on Dec 6, 2012 9:34:07 GMT
Hi Dave this collection is the sort of thing the BBC was looking for when they launched their Listeners Archive Appeal in October. You can read about it here www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio/posts/The-Listeners-Archive-appeal I think they may still be interested in hearing what you have so why not contact them. Email at listenersarchive@bbc.co.uk Regarding desert island discs there are many gaps in the archive and i would be interested to know which editions you have on tape. The list of existing episodes is on line and you can down load them to listen to. I have provided a link to them below. I assume that editions that are unavailable to download are the ones that the BBC don't have so you should be able to find out if you have anything rare quite easily if you know the year and castaway. www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/desert-island-discs/find-a-castaway#/decade/1970please keep us updated cheers Rich |
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Post by John Green on Dec 6, 2012 10:18:50 GMT
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Post by Rich Cornock on Dec 6, 2012 13:24:31 GMT
Well done for putting that link up jgreen, i notice they have a contact form on the DID website. I expect they would be interested in hearing what you have Dave even if they already have a copy. Some of the recordings they have are of poor quality or incomplete so you maybe able to improve on that.
Can you post a list of what DID episodes you have as it would be interesting to know
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