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Post by Stephen Byers on Nov 20, 2015 6:41:58 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34869452"The British Film Institute has uncovered what is believed to be the earliest known interracial kiss on British TV. You in Your Small Corner was first broadcast live on ITV in June 1962 and has not been seen on TV since. It was rediscovered in the BFI's National Archive." But sadly like all material in this dusty archive this "has not been seen on TV since [1962]" and likely as not will never be seen again. I mean really what is point of such archives anyway?
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Post by John Green on Nov 20, 2015 8:38:34 GMT
Hi,Stephan. This isn't listed as missing,so I suspect that it's more a case that it's importance has been 'rediscovered' by an academic?
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Post by Alan Turrell on Nov 20, 2015 11:54:17 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34869452"The British Film Institute has uncovered what is believed to be the earliest known interracial kiss on British TV. You in Your Small Corner was first broadcast live on ITV in June 1962 and has not been seen on TV since. It was rediscovered in the BFI's National Archive." But sadly like all material in this dusty archive this "has not been seen on TV since [1962]" and likely as not will never be seen again. I mean really what is point of such archives anyway? Excatly as i feel Stephen it does annoy me that alot of this material whether at the BFI or other establishments stuff that isn't missing that will never see the light of day again.If your keeping an archive of material why not let people that want to watch it be allowed to do so otherwise at the end of the day what is the point of it all.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Nov 20, 2015 12:22:28 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34869452"The British Film Institute has uncovered what is believed to be the earliest known interracial kiss on British TV. You in Your Small Corner was first broadcast live on ITV in June 1962 and has not been seen on TV since. It was rediscovered in the BFI's National Archive." But sadly like all material in this dusty archive this "has not been seen on TV since [1962]" and likely as not will never be seen again. I mean really what is point of such archives anyway? Excatly as i feel Stephen it does annoy me that alot of this material whether at the BFI or other establishments stuff that isn't missing that will never see the light of day again.If your keeping an archive of material why not let people that want to watch it be allowed to do so otherwise at the end of the day what is the point of it all. Seconded! Who are they keeping it for exactly? We have to look to America for how it's done properly, a win,win,win situation where old material gets recycled , somebody earns money out of it, somebody gets paid to buff it up and modernize it......... and viewers get to see it..not just the middle aged butmore or less everyone in the US is familiar with stuff like the Twilight Zone and Bewitched. Instead over here you get the BFI which had the cash cow of J Paul Getty and consequently just sat on their arses not bothering to exploit the potential of what was staring them in the face on their shelves . If they can't be bothered why can't they hand it someone like Renown or Network to exploit it properly? and let them get on with their snooty little luv ins with some blustery old director and his overegged films...
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Post by Richard Marple on Nov 20, 2015 13:02:37 GMT
It's a shame UK TV didn't gear up to syndication in a big way like the Americans did, apart from some of the filmed ITV series.
There seemed to be a lot of oldies on TV in the 1990s, with UK Gold starting & the BBC digging a lot of oldies for prime time screening, along with buying a lot of ITC shows.
There's been a fair amount released on DVD but not everyone has the money & shelf space to buy the sets for every show they like.
Also I guess some clearances need to be sorted out, especially with the BBC shows.
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Post by Alan Turrell on Nov 20, 2015 14:28:37 GMT
Excatly as i feel Stephen it does annoy me that alot of this material whether at the BFI or other establishments stuff that isn't missing that will never see the light of day again.If your keeping an archive of material why not let people that want to watch it be allowed to do so otherwise at the end of the day what is the point of it all. Seconded! Who are they keeping it for exactly? We have to look to America for how it's done properly, a win,win,win situation where old material gets recycled , somebody earns money out of it, somebody gets paid to buff it up and modernize it......... and viewers get to see it..not just the middle aged butmore or less everyone in the US is familiar with stuff like the Twilight Zone and Bewitched. Instead over here you get the BFI which had the cash cow of J Paul Getty and consequently just sat on their arses not bothering to exploit the potential of what was staring them in the face on their shelves . If they can't be bothered why can't they hand it someone like Renown or Network to exploit it properly? and let them get on with their snooty little luv ins with some blustery old director and his overegged films... That's right Peter there is a ton of american stuff out there now not only the usual things but even more obscure shows.Personally i'm not only interested in tv series that are complete in the archives but also one's where maybe only an episode or two exist but you've got virtually no chance of seeing most of it.
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Nov 20, 2015 15:21:40 GMT
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Post by Stephen Byers on Nov 20, 2015 23:46:56 GMT
Well the episode was 'missing' from the public view, since 1962. However ITV News has just aired 'the' kiss and a couple of other early ones. Who knows they might even air the "You in Your Small Corner" episode, not seen since 1962, that is 53 years ago. Evidently stuff gets locked away unseen and inaccessible in dusty archives for half a lifetime (or even longer).
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Post by John Green on Nov 21, 2015 0:30:15 GMT
Well the episode was 'missing' from the public view, since 1962. However ITV News has just aired 'the' kiss and a couple of other early ones. Who knows they might even air the "You in Your Small Corner" episode, not seen since 1962, that is 53 years ago. Evidently stuff gets locked away unseen and inaccessible in dusty archives for half a lifetime (or even longer). Anyone who was 18 and saw it will be 71 now,and still waiting! Anyone born in 1971 who heard about it at university,but died in 2001,is out of luck.
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Nov 21, 2015 18:32:58 GMT
Well the episode was 'missing' from the public view, since 1962. I expect that is true of much material of that vintage in any TV archive. How many existing 1960s episodes of Coronation Street have ever been broadcast since 1970? Or various news stories and documentaries - which certainly make up the bulk of the archives here.
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Post by Peter Prentice on Dec 3, 2015 7:46:31 GMT
the following Associated-Rediffusion is currently listed as Missing on Lostshows.com.. Private Lives, 22/9/55 (ITV's Opening Night) made submission...the bfi have confirmed they hold on 35 mm, they say " Private Lives is an excerpt shown on opening night. Running time 10 minutes. An excerpt from the play. (Performed with excerpts from "The Importance Of Being Earnest" and "Baker's Dozen" as a part of ITV's opening night".) also made a submission for It's Called God Rock, the bfi have confirmed they hold..they say " This is an LWT 2" tape." (colour). The transmission date for this was 11/7/71..programme about religious pop music or "God Rock"...Ashton, Gardner & Dyke, Quintessence, Rhada Krsna Temple. Quintessence clip: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBReWH_FU9Q
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Post by Alan Turrell on Dec 3, 2015 10:43:03 GMT
the following Associated-Rediffusion is currently listed as Missing on Lostshows.com.. Private Lives, 22/9/55 (ITV's Opening Night) made submission...the bfi have confirmed they hold on 35 mm, they say " Private Lives is an excerpt shown on opening night. Running time 10 minutes. An excerpt from the play. (Performed with excerpts from "The Importance Of Being Earnest" and "Baker's Dozen" as a part of ITV's opening night".) also made a submission for It's Called God Rock, the bfi have confirmed they hold..they say " This is an LWT 2" tape." (colour). The transmission date for this was 11/7/71..programme about religious pop music or "God Rock"...Ashton, Gardner & Dyke, Quintessence, Rhada Krsna Temple. Quintessence clip: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBReWH_FU9QNice find Peter it would be nice to see the whole show.
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Post by williammcgregor on Mar 14, 2017 20:08:44 GMT
Lost Shows
What The Papers Say
November 1956 - July 1968 556 episodes, most listed as Missing
September 1968 - November 1981 587 episodes, most listed as Missing, as The Papers
due to the number of episodes missing, ample scope to locate some of them.
Yesterday, the bfi confirmed they hold the following 2 Missing Episodes
What The Papers Say 20/05/1957 Granada Television Synopsis: Britain's first H-bomb test in the Pacific is one of the subjects covered. Cast: John Connell 35 mm Duplicating Positive Combined 1528 Feet
What The Papers Say 03/11/71 Granada Television
A submission was made to Lost Shows last night about these 2 confirmed holdings. NB: not all the holdings at the BFI have been checked, this time, to see if they are listed as Missing.
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Post by williammcgregor on Apr 21, 2017 9:16:56 GMT
Big Boy Now!
is a completely Missing Television Series, until now.
Series 1 1976 all 6 episodes Missing Series 2 1977 all 7 episodes Missing according to Lostshows.com
Big Boy Now! was a television series comedy situations of a middle-aged unmarried son still tied to his jealous, widowed mother's apron strings.
The BFI have confirmed that they hold the following 3 episodes on 2" Quadruplex that have also been transferred to digibeta dubs.
Series 1 Episode 1 Small World 30/05/1976 ATV Network 25.21 minutes long In a desperate attempt to get away from his possessive mother Tony Marchant considers emigrating to Canada. Leslie Crowther (Tony Marchant) Fabia Drake (Mrs Heather Marchant) Ronald Lewis (Roy Marchant) Derek Farr (Captain Edgar Bingham)
Series 2 Episode 6 Edgar's Other Woman 24/03/1977 ATV Network 25.18 minutes long When Tony goes to buy a vintage car he bumps into an old flame of his mother's boyfriend, Captain Bingham. Leslie Crowther (Tony Marchant) Fabia Drake (Mrs Heather Marchart) Derek Farr (Captain Edgar Bingham) Bernard Horsfall (Alan Viner) Frances Bennett (Doris Gilmore)
Series 3 Episode 7 Follow That Car! 31/03/1977 ATV Network 25.13 minutes long Tony gets into trouble when delivering a sports car. Leslie Crowther (Tony Marchant) Fabia Drake (Mrs Heather Marchant) Derke Farr (Captain Edgar Bingham) Bernard Horsfall (Alan Viner) Donald Morley (Police Sergeant)
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Post by williammcgregor on Aug 9, 2017 21:05:23 GMT
TV Brain says
Doctor Who The Deadly Assassin 13.11.1976 Episode 3 The only known copy was recorded on a domestic video format (e.g. VHS, Beta, Phillips 1500)
The BFI holds this episode on
2-Inch Quadruplex - Video-TX Date: 1976-11-13 C-779011
Am I right in thinking that 2-Inch Quadruplex is either the original format or at least a significant up grade on the current domestic video format above.
Is this already known about? or would someone like to investigate this further and let us know the outcome please?
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