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Post by markg on Nov 28, 2011 10:08:10 GMT
The long lost "Marvin and Tammy" show where the VU appear and perform the never-released "Guess I'm Falling I Love"
There's an instrumental take on "Another VU", my guess is that this was the backing track for the TV appearance, and the vocals were performed 'as-live'.
Lost? Never to be found?
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Post by SydV on Nov 28, 2011 12:24:32 GMT
The programme was “Upbeat” and this particular edition went out on either 8th January 1967 or 8th July 1967. The instrumental version on “Another View” is said to have been recorded on 5th December 1967, so that would rule it out as being the backing track for the TV show.
There is a live version from 30th April 1967 at "The Gymnasium" which does have vocals and that was included on the “Peel Slowly and See” box set.
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Nov 28, 2011 23:14:27 GMT
I thought all of "Upbeat" still exists, can anyone confirm this?
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Post by SydV on Nov 29, 2011 11:58:47 GMT
I think most of them do still exist, which is why it’s presumed that the Velvet Underground show was stolen. It was in colour too.
I should add that 8th July 1967 is probably the correct tx date, 8th January is likely to be a typo error on a website that's been repeated elsewhere.
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Nov 29, 2011 18:07:52 GMT
What a great archive Upbeat probably is, shame it hasn't been released on DVD like Beat Club!
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Post by Tom Alger on Nov 30, 2011 6:31:58 GMT
I think most of them do still exist, which is why it’s presumed that the Velvet Underground show was stolen. It was in colour too. I should add that 8th July 1967 is probably the correct tx date, 8th January is likely to be a typo error on a website that's been repeated elsewhere. July 8, 1967 is correct. I've attached a newspaper column from the "Teen Page" of the July 7, 1967 Cleveland Plain Dealer newspaper. From what I've heard, only three complete Upbeat episodes, and (approx.) 3 hours of clips from other episodes, are known to survive. None of these surviving Upbeat clips feature the Velvet Underground. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2011 11:11:25 GMT
It's a real shame there seems to be nothing at all existing of the group performing on TV. It probably all adds to their legend but that's no substitute for the real thing, in my view.
I was reading a while ago that they made several TV appearances apart from Upbeat, including regional U.S. programmes. I wonder if any of this handful are out there somewhere?
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Post by ajsmith on Nov 30, 2011 15:16:14 GMT
A listing of the band Tv appearances is here: olivier.landemaine.free.fr/vu/video/tv/tv.htmlI may be wrong, but I suspect not that much research has been done into tracking down these obscurer appearances. it's a shame because a visual document of the groups prime years as a touring band (rather than Warhol acolytes) is sorely lacking. |
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Post by markg on Nov 30, 2011 16:49:45 GMT
Well, in turn, I don't know. But there's a small number of very very intense Velvet Underground fans, and if they heard a rumour that the footage had been incorporated in a flyover strut, they'd be out there with the bulldozers.
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Post by adriane17 on Nov 30, 2011 18:45:32 GMT
I am friends with a couple of big VU collectors and if the TV footage existed they would have it or know of its likely whereabouts but alas other than what is out there it seems there is nothing else. Of course we were all surprised when the April 1967 Gymnasium tape turned up (albeit with at least one song missing either because it wasn't recorded or by design of the VU collector who circulated the tape) so one never knows....
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Post by ChrisMoise on Dec 2, 2011 1:17:35 GMT
Believe it or not there is (uncirculated) silent home movie footage of the Velvets rehearsing for Upbeat. Small consolation but I thought it was worth a mention.
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Post by Alan Turrell on Dec 2, 2011 7:28:01 GMT
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Post by ChrisMoise on Dec 2, 2011 10:15:15 GMT
That's one of my holy grails - a much more complete copy around 5 minutes long with sound exists but doesn't circulate. |
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Post by andyjefferys on Dec 6, 2011 22:45:14 GMT
The other major TV appearance still in existence is the WNET program complete with the Warhol interview - "we're sponsoring a new band called the Velvet Underground..." www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgcuU_JWuQU&feature=relatedThis has been used in countless documentaries but the only complete version I've ever seen was at the Museum of TV & Radion New York, where you can see the show in its entirety for a few bucks on video in your own private viewing cubicle! Not sure if this doing the rounds though. There have been other discoveries as part of the ongoing project to catalogue Warhol's film collection from the 60s, and one has already been shown in the States a few times - "The Velvet Underground in Boston" recorded at a live show at the Boston Tea Party in 1967. Intriguingly there's another currently being restored called "Velvet Underground Tarot Cards" but this apparently has no performance of the band. Always did seem a travesty that for all the tedious films he made of inanimate objects, the one film Warhol never properly made was as representation of his own Exploding Plastic Inevitable, but who knows what might be unearthed as the project managers scour through all of the film cans... |
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Post by Jay Hughes on Jul 17, 2013 17:52:13 GMT
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