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Post by Rob Mammone on Dec 9, 2004 14:52:04 GMT
Any news of any recent returns to the archives re: The Goodies. I heard a slightly less than good colour copy of Come Dancing had been unearthed?
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Post by stuartd on Dec 9, 2004 16:11:17 GMT
Any news of any recent returns to the archives re: The Goodies. I heard a slightly less than good colour copy of Come Dancing had been unearthed? No mention on the Goodies fan club site unfortunately,so it doesn't seem terribly likely. Stuart
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Post by Rob Mammone on Dec 10, 2004 9:30:57 GMT
I heard about it in relation to the impending release of the second DVD. Probably a rumor, but the person I heard it from is trustworthy, though perhaps his source isn't. Oh well, worth asking. Thanks!
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Post by Lee Glover on Dec 16, 2004 18:52:34 GMT
It's been confirmed on The Mausoleum Club forum that a lo-band colour version of "Come Dancing" WILL be included on the DVD.
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Post by ethantyler on Dec 19, 2004 19:09:19 GMT
That's good news. Are there any screen captures of the picture quality online? Would it be possible to restore the episode or re-colourise using the new colour footage?
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Post by Steve Roberts on Dec 20, 2004 23:19:49 GMT
It's not really as simple as that.
Lo-Band quad was not capable of recording colour - the bandwidth was too high. It was only supposed to be used for recording monochrome video signals. However, in this case, a lo-band recording was made from a colour video signal and the result is rather odd. Basically, you just get colour around transitions - so for example you might get a strong green on the edge of a patch of grass, then a weak green for the rest.
What's been done in this case is that Jonathan Wood has taken this signal and by boosting the colour in certain areas and cutting it in others he has been able to get an approximation to a colour picture. It's odd to look at but it's colour nonetheless.
Steve
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Post by ethantyler on Dec 21, 2004 9:43:29 GMT
Thanks Steve. I don't really understand the technicalities when it comes to film/video, but I understood what your reply. I'd be interested to see some screen captures.
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Post by William Martin on Dec 21, 2004 16:14:11 GMT
the bean stalk episode will be on this x-mass
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Post by AndyMcKinney on Dec 21, 2004 16:31:24 GMT
What's been done in this case is that Jonathan Wood has taken this signal and by boosting the colour in certain areas and cutting it in others he has been able to get an approximation to a colour picture. It's odd to look at but it's colour nonetheless. Steve By what you describe, I wonder if that is really preferable to a black-and-white presentation. Is this "approximate" colour distracting enough, in your opinion, to make some of wish for a black-and-white instead? Has anyone heard whether this episode is going to be VidFired or not?
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Post by William Martin on Dec 21, 2004 16:36:20 GMT
perhaps it would be best to use the weak colour to produce a guide for a computerised recolouring?
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Post by Laurence Piper on Dec 21, 2004 18:39:48 GMT
It was a quad tape (not a telerecording) therefore it doesn't need Vidfiring!
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Post by dubs again on Dec 21, 2004 19:56:09 GMT
With a weak colour signal Laurence?
Wherefor did it hail from then?
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Post by AndyMcKinney on Dec 21, 2004 20:37:23 GMT
It was a quad tape (not a telerecording) therefore it doesn't need Vidfiring! Okay, that's one question answered, but does it look better or worse than the B/W film print? I'd rather have a decent looking B/W copy than a crap colour one. Does it look as bad as the Royal Wedding episode of "Till Death"? (Of course, in cases such as that of "Royal Wedding", a crap colour copy is better than nothing at all, as that's all that exists).
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Post by Laurence Piper on Dec 21, 2004 21:15:23 GMT
For an idea of how a quad with a weak colour signal looks, the recovered June '72 Top Of The Pops is a good example. A clip from this featuring The Move (California Man) has been screened on TOTP2 in recent times. The colour signal is weak (more like a tint) but the image is sharp 625 line broadcast quality. It'll look onfinitely sharper than a telerecording and no motion blur either. No idea where it came from though - it a new one on me!
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Post by andrew martin on Dec 22, 2004 10:46:04 GMT
That "Top of the Pops" is in fact the same recording as the "Goodies" episode - they are both from the same off-air recording found in BBC Scotland in 1999.
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